American Idol Finale - Page 3

AndrewG · 25 May 2006, 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockette

Are you on the right forum? I thought we were here to promote Meat, not bring him down.

I think a lot of people like to spend time with negative views and believe me I'm am not attacking anyone in specific here as I really respect most boardmembers. I'm also not saying you shouldn't have an opinion but my view is this:
If you hate things so much, then move onto something you do like.
That rockman forum for example is laughable at times I find. A lot of posters there don't like Meat Loaf but yet they spend all their free time talking about him. Now does that make sense????? I think not. And yes I do respect Pud's view that Meat is associated with Steinman thus should be discussed but I just had a look right now: I count 12 threads. 2 are about interesting topics, the others are all about some idiot who has been banned and most of them are about slagging off Meat. I don't call that a proper Jim Steinman board.

**RadioMaster** · 25 May 2006, 12:49

Just watched it, here´s my opinion:
It was too short for the song, much to short. And, sure, the show was about KMcP, not about Meat, so he was just the sidekick.
Thatswhy You (or better I) cant really judge about his performance.

And beside:
The new style makes him look younger somehow, don´t You think?
Compare it to some parts of the MSO DVD and You´ll see what I mean.

But all in all it was a good promotion for him/Bat3.

Pudding · 25 May 2006, 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockette

Are you on the right forum? I thought we were here to promote Meat, not bring him down.

Cut the man some slack, by his own admission, he was nervous. He was "live", performing a new song, with a singer he had never sung with before. I imagine rehearsals were not as extensive as Meat would have prefered too.

This is a thread to discuss his performance on American Idol is it not? It isn't to promote him at all, and if someone has what they feel to be an honest opinion about his performance then like it or not, it should be aired.

As for Meat being nervous, yeah he might have been, but he's a professional and has been singing professionally on stage in front of thousands for over 30 years.

I hate to have to do it, but I'm siding with Bart on this.

Pud

**The Flying Mouse** · 25 May 2006, 13:59

*Jumps into the firing line before things exculate, in Slow Mo, NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*

Right oh folks, it's an old argument, and i'm sure most of us know the routine by now

.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, wether that opinion is good or bad (there is no such thing as right or wrong, well

, unless your a mod

)

That being said, if you do have a negative opinion of something Meat has done, please try and post it in a way that is not going to be inflamatory to other forum users (it is after all a Meat Loaf fan club

)
Incidentlly, I haven't seen anything so far that oversteps the mark as such.
Didn't like it, fair enough.By all means have your say, but as this is a ML site, please don't go too overboard in how you say it.

If you don't agree with somebody else's opinion, then please beg to differ before arguing with someone and trying to change their views.

If you believe that Meat's performance WAS as good as I hear(haven't seen it yet myself) then please suport him by posting your opinions and reviews here rather than arguing with somebody else's feelings.
We know by now that that DON'T WORK

Up to now, there have been no problems (as such), I just wanna keep it that way

F.M.

Ross · 25 May 2006, 14:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE FLYING MOUSE

*Jumps into the firing line before things exculate, in Slow Mo, NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*

Right oh folks, it's an old argument, and i'm sure most of us know the routine by now

.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, wether that opinion is good or bad (there is no such thing as right or wrong, well

, unless your a mod

)

That being said, if you do have a negative opinion of something Meat has done, please try and post it in a way that is not going to be inflamatory to other forum users (it is after all a Meat Loaf fan club

)
Incidentlly, I haven't seen anything so far that oversteps the mark.
Didn't like it, fair enough.By all means have your say, but as this is a ML site, please don't go too overboard in how you say it.

If you don't agree with somebody else's opinion, then please beg to differ before arguing with someone and trying to change their views.

Up to now, there have been no problems (as such), I just wanna keep it that way

F.M.

*Applauds FM.* Getting ready for his wedding and still has time to play king solomen.

**The Flying Mouse** · 25 May 2006, 14:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

*Applauds FM.* Getting ready for his wedding and still has time to play king solomen.

*takes bow

*

*This post is hoplessly off topic, but I can never refuse a bit of vanity

*

Ross · 25 May 2006, 14:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE FLYING MOUSE

*takes bow

*

*This post is hoplessly off topic, but I can never refuse a bit of vanity

*

OK veering on topic, although I disliked the performance I thought Meat's Goatee thingy looked cool. Well from a Hetrosexual Male POV.

**The Flying Mouse** · 25 May 2006, 14:19

I've seen the gotee, and i'm in two minds about it

On one hand, Meat with a gotee is just a weird thought

On the other, it does sort of give him that

look for when he's singing The Monster's Loose

.

With me, the jury is in deadlock on this one

Ross · 25 May 2006, 14:20

The Goatee is loose

mariella · 25 May 2006, 14:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE FLYING MOUSE

On one hand, Meat with a gotee is just a weird thought

On the other, it does sort of give him that

look for when he's singing The Monster's Loose

.

I usually dislike a goatee - thought the same, FM...Meat will be a perfect and even sexy 'monster' with the goatee

Too bad about the very first line, yes - but I just feel Proud today

Love,
Mariella

vrg · 25 May 2006, 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockette

Thanks for the links, Pud. The knives were indeed well and truly, and totally unjustifiably out. I haven't seen the finale for myself, but I am comfortable with the reviews here.

Feel like I need to huff off now and plan my "neck tie" party.

MSNBC on top of the list.

Let me know how the party develops; I'd like to join in.

AndrewG · 25 May 2006, 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by vrg

Well, if MSNBC says that about Meat and Katherine, how about Paris Bennett and Al Jarreau??? Katherine at least is legal age, Paris is not.

These guys get paid to write negative stuff about American Idol since it is on a rival channel. If NBC produced it, that review would be completely different. The introduction to the article sets the tone and that is not a positive one according to me.

Meataholic · 25 May 2006, 16:06

Exactly Musicman.

I truely thought that Meat's performance was fantastic

Yes it was toned down, but his voice was excellent & he looked really good - I loved his goatee & outfit

Heather

vrg · 25 May 2006, 16:08

In MTV news today:

MTV: Did you know who Meat Loaf was?

McPhee: I found out a few weeks before the finale. I knew the name but didn't know what he looked like or anything. It was an interesting experience. He's definitely the theatrical rocker dude. I've had a lot of theatrical experience in my life because I went to school for musical theater, but he was on a whole different level. He warned me he goes full-out every time, and when we were rehearsing he was all in my face.

**The Flying Mouse** · 25 May 2006, 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by vrg

Let me know how the party develops; I'd like to join in.

Two steps back please.

Do NOT want this getting out of hand

F.M.

**The Flying Mouse** · 25 May 2006, 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockette

Thanks for the links, Pud. The knives were indeed well and truly, and totally unjustifiably out. I haven't seen the finale for myself, but I am comfortable with the reviews here.

Feel like I need to huff off now and plan my "neck tie" party.

MSNBC on top of the list.

And please do NOT give a negative view to a show that, by your own admission, you have not seen.

Inflamatory and unjustified.

F.M.

mszee · 25 May 2006, 16:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE FLYING MOUSE

Two steps back please.

Do NOT want this getting out of hand

F.M.

Off-topic:

you're scaring all the prospective guests...

On-topic:

If there was a fault with performance it was MacPhee...ML is perfect!!!

Jayd · 25 May 2006, 17:40

You could see that Meat was nervous as soon, as he walked on stage, and grabbed the mike stand. This was most probably his first performance of a song from Bat 3. The impression I get is, when Meat goes out onto stage live like that, I think he feels he has something to prove, when he doesn't. Negative reviews, and comments don't help a person, it only makes you more nervous. I know we can say, Meat performs to sell out crowds, and he has performed on TV before, but this is different. He is out there, singing with someone he has never sung with before, maybe just a few rehearsals. He is performing a song, which I very much doubt, he has rehearsed himself to sing live, as he would normally do. Also he does not want to take away the limelight of the person he is singing with, very hard, when you usually play to sell out concerts, where everyone has come to see you. There are a load of different factors. This was not one of Meat's best performances, I see that, but critical reviews don't help a person's confidence, last night was about that very beautiful young lady, and the other guy, sorry I don't usually watch AI, so not too familiar with the names, but I know where I am coming from.

Jackoutofhell · 25 May 2006, 17:41

Not perfect... but close. I'm glad the camera wasn't on Simon when he sang the first few notes, because they were way flat. He improved though.

amethyst · 25 May 2006, 18:27

I've just watched it and watched it again, and again. Meat Loaf was a little flat at the start, be it nerves or whatever, but after that he sounded fine.

The applause when he came on spoke volumes though!!

Have to say he looked fantastic and cant wait for the tour for Bat III.

AndrewG · 25 May 2006, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatloaf_fan90

Not perfect... but close. I'm glad the camera wasn't on Simon when he sang the first few notes, because they were way flat. He improved though.

It would have been interesting to hear Simon sing with Kat. Then again... nah.

Jayd · 25 May 2006, 18:32

It's up om my site for download, on Non-footie page. If anyone wants it for keeps, go there, good quality. But only on there for a limited time.

http://www.afcturfhoppers.co.uk

If I am breaking any rules Mods, please let me know!

SuperLoafMan · 25 May 2006, 19:07

I just watched it for the first time....and it was brilliant!!

I got chills down my back when he walked out of the doors and when he begun to sing he was great,

Kat was really good too, must give credit to her, of course Meat was going to be a little quiter than her, but my god he put one hell of a show on and vocally was great!!

Well done Meat, cant wait for the full version on the album!!

Ross

P.S Oh, I must say, just watching it again, He definitely owned the stage, you can tell that for sure!

PanicLord · 25 May 2006, 19:15

Some observations:

1. I am now looking forward to this song on Bat3 even more.
2. Meat started a little flat for like 3 notes. The rest was great.
3. He looks and sounds in great shape - very promising for what is to come!
4. Most of his songs are like 7 mins long - he didn't have a chance to get into this song really.
5. I agree that Meat was holding back, as it is really Kat's show. I bet once he starts doing shows etc this song will really kick donkey.

Benny · 25 May 2006, 19:22

I have just watched the video, and it's awesome!
Meat looked great and sounded awesome!!!
I'm sooooooooo looking forward to Bat III.
Meat you are so awesome

25 May 2006, 12:49	#52
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	Just watched it, here´s my opinion: It was too short for the song, much to short. And, sure, the show was about KMcP, not about Meat, so he was just the sidekick. Thatswhy You (or better I) cant really judge about his performance. And beside: The new style makes him look younger somehow, don´t You think? Compare it to some parts of the MSO DVD and You´ll see what I mean. But all in all it was a good promotion for him/Bat3.

25 May 2006, 13:59	#54
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Jumps into the firing line before things exculate, in Slow Mo, NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Right oh folks, it's an old argument, and i'm sure most of us know the routine by now . Everyone is entitled to their opinion, wether that opinion is good or bad (there is no such thing as right or wrong, well , unless your a mod ) That being said, if you do have a negative opinion of something Meat has done, please try and post it in a way that is not going to be inflamatory to other forum users (it is after all a Meat Loaf fan club ) Incidentlly, I haven't seen anything so far that oversteps the mark as such. Didn't like it, fair enough.By all means have your say, but as this is a ML site, please don't go too overboard in how you say it. If you don't agree with somebody else's opinion, then please beg to differ before arguing with someone and trying to change their views. If you believe that Meat's performance WAS as good as I hear(haven't seen it yet myself) then please suport him by posting your opinions and reviews here rather than arguing with somebody else's feelings. We know by now that that DON'T WORK Up to now, there have been no problems (as such), I just wanna keep it that way F.M.

25 May 2006, 14:19	#58
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	I've seen the gotee, and i'm in two minds about it On one hand, Meat with a gotee is just a weird thought On the other, it does sort of give him that look for when he's singing The Monster's Loose . With me, the jury is in deadlock on this one

25 May 2006, 14:20	#59
Ross Best Sig and Avatar 2006!!! (shared) Join Date: 25.11.2003 Location: Coatbridge near Glasgow. Scotland Posts: 3,446	The Goatee is loose

25 May 2006, 16:06	#63
Meataholic Super Loafer Join Date: 01.03.2004 Location: Where angels sing Posts: 326	Exactly Musicman. I truely thought that Meat's performance was fantastic Yes it was toned down, but his voice was excellent & he looked really good - I loved his goatee & outfit Heather

25 May 2006, 16:08	#64
vrg Super Loafer Join Date: 30.10.2005 Location: Just outside Manhattan Posts: 671	In MTV news today: MTV: Did you know who Meat Loaf was? McPhee: I found out a few weeks before the finale. I knew the name but didn't know what he looked like or anything. It was an interesting experience. He's definitely the theatrical rocker dude. I've had a lot of theatrical experience in my life because I went to school for musical theater, but he was on a whole different level. He warned me he goes full-out every time, and when we were rehearsing he was all in my face.

25 May 2006, 17:40	#68
Jayd If I could bust into hell....... I would Join Date: 13.06.2003 Location: Montclair, New Jersey Posts: 1,312	You could see that Meat was nervous as soon, as he walked on stage, and grabbed the mike stand. This was most probably his first performance of a song from Bat 3. The impression I get is, when Meat goes out onto stage live like that, I think he feels he has something to prove, when he doesn't. Negative reviews, and comments don't help a person, it only makes you more nervous. I know we can say, Meat performs to sell out crowds, and he has performed on TV before, but this is different. He is out there, singing with someone he has never sung with before, maybe just a few rehearsals. He is performing a song, which I very much doubt, he has rehearsed himself to sing live, as he would normally do. Also he does not want to take away the limelight of the person he is singing with, very hard, when you usually play to sell out concerts, where everyone has come to see you. There are a load of different factors. This was not one of Meat's best performances, I see that, but critical reviews don't help a person's confidence, last night was about that very beautiful young lady, and the other guy, sorry I don't usually watch AI, so not too familiar with the names, but I know where I am coming from.

25 May 2006, 17:41	#69
Jackoutofhell Super Loafer Join Date: 13.03.2006 Posts: 369	Not perfect... but close. I'm glad the camera wasn't on Simon when he sang the first few notes, because they were way flat. He improved though.

25 May 2006, 18:27	#70
amethyst I know that i'll be bad for good. Join Date: 15.11.2003 Location: South UK Posts: 893	I've just watched it and watched it again, and again. Meat Loaf was a little flat at the start, be it nerves or whatever, but after that he sounded fine. The applause when he came on spoke volumes though!! Have to say he looked fantastic and cant wait for the tour for Bat III.

25 May 2006, 18:32	#72
Jayd If I could bust into hell....... I would Join Date: 13.06.2003 Location: Montclair, New Jersey Posts: 1,312	It's up om my site for download, on Non-footie page. If anyone wants it for keeps, go there, good quality. But only on there for a limited time. http://www.afcturfhoppers.co.uk If I am breaking any rules Mods, please let me know!

25 May 2006, 19:07	#73
SuperLoafMan Meat Loaf Rocks! Join Date: 25.01.2005 Location: Barnsley, UK Posts: 3,887	I just watched it for the first time....and it was brilliant!! I got chills down my back when he walked out of the doors and when he begun to sing he was great, Kat was really good too, must give credit to her, of course Meat was going to be a little quiter than her, but my god he put one hell of a show on and vocally was great!! Well done Meat, cant wait for the full version on the album!! Ross P.S Oh, I must say, just watching it again, He definitely owned the stage, you can tell that for sure!

25 May 2006, 19:15	#74
PanicLord Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.06.2003 Location: At The End Of The Line Posts: 2,651	Some observations: 1. I am now looking forward to this song on Bat3 even more. 2. Meat started a little flat for like 3 notes. The rest was great. 3. He looks and sounds in great shape - very promising for what is to come! 4. Most of his songs are like 7 mins long - he didn't have a chance to get into this song really. 5. I agree that Meat was holding back, as it is really Kat's show. I bet once he starts doing shows etc this song will really kick donkey.

25 May 2006, 19:22	#75
Benny Massive Loafer Join Date: 07.09.2005 Location: Posts: 3,084	I have just watched the video, and it's awesome! Meat looked great and sounded awesome!!! I'm sooooooooo looking forward to Bat III. Meat you are so awesome