Infraction System - Page 3

Pudding · 20 Nov 2006, 22:51

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Originally Posted by R.

As you already said, I can't do that.

I never said you can't do it, I said I know you're gonna object. As Admin, you can pretty much do whatever you want.

I think it's only fair that if the members are to be kept in line, then the mods should also, otherwise it will be seen as Stalinist, which is something AndyK clearly said it wasn't.

Pud

L96 · 20 Nov 2006, 23:06

I'd like to hijack the thread by adding the philosophical point that consistency is subjective.

MeatGrl1 · 20 Nov 2006, 23:23

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Originally Posted by R.

No, only staff and you can see your infractions

Neil explained to me earlier but thanks for explaining it again R.

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samurai7 · 20 Nov 2006, 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by L96

I'd like to hijack the thread by adding the philosophical point that consistency is subjective.

I'm hijacking it further by turning it into a surrealist ramble about the inflections of time versus super-fluidity in the modern waxworks factory.

L96 · 20 Nov 2006, 23:33

Translated into "bees don't enjoy the heat".

JulesB · 21 Nov 2006, 01:45

I have a question. What constitutes an insult? Is it a direct personal attack, a judgement call by a mod or can a member just be insulted by a post?

Jules

Chris · 21 Nov 2006, 09:53

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Originally Posted by JulesB

I have a question. What constitutes an insult? Is it a direct personal attack, a judgement call by a mod or can a member just be insulted by a post?

Jules

It is the same as before, either a ouright personal insult along the lines of "your opinion sucks becuse you are a total and utter ******* " or someone uses the report thread link to complain that they feel personally insulted by post because....

Pudding · 21 Nov 2006, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Chris

It is the same as before, either a ouright personal insult along the lines of "your opinion sucks becuse you are a total and utter ******* " or someone uses the report thread link to complain that they feel personally insulted by post because....

That actually sucks horses balls. Because if someone gives a personal opinion about something but it wasn't insultive to anyone personally, then they could get reported. I know this happens from personal experience.

There's probably a couple of points you can notch up on my tally there

Pud

Deb · 21 Nov 2006, 22:37

So Pud, how many points do you have now lol

Pudding · 21 Nov 2006, 23:29

I have no idea where they're displayed. I thought I had a Total of 130, but then realised that I was looking at the amount of Total PM's I have

Off to clear my in and out boxes

Pud

Chris · 21 Nov 2006, 23:35

If you click on your username to view your profile, it will tell you how many points you've got, if any.

Deb · 21 Nov 2006, 23:37

If we get any do we get told first or do they just appear?

Pudding · 21 Nov 2006, 23:43

Well I can't see anything, so I'm assuming I don't have any

Rock and ROLL the system has been Pudified

Pud

Chris · 21 Nov 2006, 23:44

I

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Originally Posted by Deb

If we get any do we get told first or do they just appear?

If points are given, a PM is always sent explaining why and how many.

Hypnobabe · 22 Nov 2006, 11:47

So if you don't have any it doesn't say anything at all? Or does it say somewhere Number of points = 0 ?

*AndyK* · 22 Nov 2006, 11:58

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Originally Posted by Hypnobabe

So if you don't have any it doesn't say anything at all? Or does it say somewhere Number of points = 0 ?

Correct, it says nothing.

samurai7 · 22 Nov 2006, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by L96

Translated into "bees don't enjoy the heat".

correct

KebLou · 22 Nov 2006, 23:39

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Originally Posted by Pudding

That actually sucks horses balls. Because if someone gives a personal opinion about something but it wasn't insultive to anyone personally, then they could get reported. I know this happens from personal experience.

I have to agree with you Pud, as a reporting of a post is totally subjective. I might be really extra sensitive and report everything which I assume to be a dig at me or I might be someone who actually doesn't give a monkeys and the same digs insults would go unreported unless another member reports it. So to use reports as a way is distinguishing whether someone has broken the rules isn't right in my opinion anyway. Plus someone might have it in for another member and just report all of their posts that could be viewed as a dig...

I actually see it a lot that people dig at others or say something and someone else will say the same thing back and they'll report it straight away, I know life isn't fair but you can make it a little fairer by not letting the fact someone has reported a post sway your descision.

*AndyK* · 22 Nov 2006, 23:44

It doesn't Lou, it may raise something to the front of the queue to be looked at and have it logged, but in no way does it sway a decision. All posts are read by a good proportion of the team on here.

KebLou · 22 Nov 2006, 23:48

Good I'm glad. I don't have a problem with the infraction system just the way it may be inplemented...

Does it mean there will be less locked threads?

Pudding · 23 Nov 2006, 00:42

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Originally Posted by AndyK

It doesn't Lou, it may raise something to the front of the queue to be looked at and have it logged, but in no way does it sway a decision. All posts are read by a good proportion of the team on here.

What guarantees are there that no posts are going to be misinterpetted by the 'team' due to say certain prejudices they may have towards a member?

Also, because the board is made up of people from many different countries that use many different forms of slang, what's to say that an innocent post is posted or interpretted the wrong way?

Pud

amethyst · 23 Nov 2006, 01:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

What guarantees are there that no posts are going to be misinterpetted by the 'team' due to say certain prejudices they may have towards a member?

Also, because the board is made up of people from many different countries that use many different forms of slang, what's to say that an innocent post is posted or interpretted the wrong way?

Pud

I'm pretty sure that one member of the "team" (as you put it) will check with another member if they're not sure of something, just to make sure.

ames xx

*AndyK* · 23 Nov 2006, 01:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

What guarantees are there that no posts are going to be misinterpetted by the 'team' due to say certain prejudices they may have towards a member?

Exactly the same guarantee's Pud that there are that certain posts by certain members that may be misinterpreted by other members of this board because of their prejudices towards that member, at the end of the day we're all human. Some more so than others I'll admit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

Also, because the board is made up of people from many different countries that use many different forms of slang, what's to say that an innocent post is posted or interpretted the wrong way?

Which is why the team is multi-national too, with people from the Uk, Germany, Holland and Yorkshire.

At the end of the day the onl thing that has changed is the introduction of a system that will provide more consistency, not less as you seem to be implying.

Pudding · 23 Nov 2006, 02:15

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Originally Posted by AndyK

At the end of the day the onl thing that has changed is the introduction of a system that will provide more consistency, not less as you seem to be implying.

The introduction of the system means that people could incur points that may ultimately lead them to being banned, surely asking for clarification on the fairness of judgement before giving someone points isn't too much to ask.

I know the mods don't like their authority to be questioned or ego's dented, but that's not what I'm doing. I just want assurances that a system that's being implemented is going to be honest and fair for all and not Stalinist.

Pud

Chris · 23 Nov 2006, 03:04

Following a few PM queries regarding this, can i reassure people that if you are not a member who recieves regular bans/cautions you will not be affected in any way.

The introduction of the system just means that whichever mod is dealing with a complaint will treat it in the same wqay and issue the same penalty if needed.

And yes, if we are unsure how to treat a member due to possible prejudice towards them, we will ask the rest of the team as we do already.

20 Nov 2006, 23:06	#52
L96 Inaugural goldfish winner Join Date: 04.07.2005 Location: In a handbasket. Believe me, for someone my height, it's hell... Posts: 2,373	I'd like to hijack the thread by adding the philosophical point that consistency is subjective.

20 Nov 2006, 23:33	#55
L96 Inaugural goldfish winner Join Date: 04.07.2005 Location: In a handbasket. Believe me, for someone my height, it's hell... Posts: 2,373	Translated into "bees don't enjoy the heat".

21 Nov 2006, 01:45	#56
JulesB Senior Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2003 Posts: 188	I have a question. What constitutes an insult? Is it a direct personal attack, a judgement call by a mod or can a member just be insulted by a post? Jules

21 Nov 2006, 22:37	#59
Deb Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.04.2003 Location: Did I say that?... Posts: 4,162	So Pud, how many points do you have now lol

21 Nov 2006, 23:29	#60
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	I have no idea where they're displayed. I thought I had a Total of 130, but then realised that I was looking at the amount of Total PM's I have Off to clear my in and out boxes Pud

21 Nov 2006, 23:35	#61
Chris Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Somewhere in the real world. Posts: 7,527	If you click on your username to view your profile, it will tell you how many points you've got, if any.

21 Nov 2006, 23:37	#62
Deb Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.04.2003 Location: Did I say that?... Posts: 4,162	If we get any do we get told first or do they just appear?

21 Nov 2006, 23:43	#63
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Well I can't see anything, so I'm assuming I don't have any Rock and ROLL the system has been Pudified Pud

22 Nov 2006, 11:47	#65
Hypnobabe mszee's Mistress with sexy goddess boots Join Date: 13.07.2005 Location: Hitting the highway like a battering ram... Posts: 7,686	So if you don't have any it doesn't say anything at all? Or does it say somewhere Number of points = 0 ?

22 Nov 2006, 23:44	#69
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	It doesn't Lou, it may raise something to the front of the queue to be looked at and have it logged, but in no way does it sway a decision. All posts are read by a good proportion of the team on here.

22 Nov 2006, 23:48	#70
KebLou Mega Loafer Join Date: 02.03.2004 Location: The Arena of the Unwell Posts: 3,177	Good I'm glad. I don't have a problem with the infraction system just the way it may be inplemented... Does it mean there will be less locked threads?

23 Nov 2006, 03:04	#75
Chris Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Somewhere in the real world. Posts: 7,527	Following a few PM queries regarding this, can i reassure people that if you are not a member who recieves regular bans/cautions you will not be affected in any way. The introduction of the system just means that whichever mod is dealing with a complaint will treat it in the same wqay and issue the same penalty if needed. And yes, if we are unsure how to treat a member due to possible prejudice towards them, we will ask the rest of the team as we do already.