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White of High · 04 Dec 2006, 18:18

Lucy!
I know why I've been banned. I know... what my problem is (what nobody understands here) the rule. No, it's not rule. It's a message by Meat Loaf and the moderator hmmm... was licking his ass? :)

I know, I played with limes, I played with the toleration of the moderators. It's not a question anymore. I am so sad for Meat sent a PM or mail to moderators that don't let to write negative opinions abot his songs before release. It was on internet, there was a video of the song on internet. Accept opinions and say Meat: No, I won't delete it, it's only an opinion. If you can tolerate that, don't put your video before release or anything else. My problem is Meat Loaf-'s quote and the moderators' reaction... I will never accept and understand. Is it clear?

LucyK! · 04 Dec 2006, 18:35

I see your point, because given what you've said ( which I can't comment on because this has nothing at all to do with me ) it would seem that the thread was changed etc due to the PM being from Meat rather than another "regular" member, and if that's the case then I see why you're pi$$ed about it...but is there any need for a ranting match v's moderators on here? I fail to see why if there was still an issue about this it couldn't have been dealt with over PM/Email

**The Flying Mouse** · 04 Dec 2006, 18:37

Actually, Meat didn't contact the staff.

In fact, to my own knowledge, Meat has NEVER contacted a mod directly (or indirectly for that matter) asking for a post to be edited or deleted.

The message was deleted baised purely on the content.

You were told not to repost it, because you had includeed this in your post (i've just been looking at them in the deleted posts archives)

Quote:

Originally Posted by White of High

PS: You can delete if you want or kick me out of forum but I will leave here and copy again until we can't talk about it!

So obviously you knew you were doing something wrong to include this in your first post.

You then ignored numerous warnings to stop this behaviour, instead you made several rants about freedom of speech, going even as far as recomending that people should go read the declaration of free speech on the UN's website

Bottom line on this.

You posted in a disrespectful way.

The post was deleted, you were told not to post it again.

You ignored the warning, you posted.

You went on to ignore more warnings (as i've said, i've looked through the archieves, and I could find FIVE threads straight away that you started that were deleted by me and another mod on this matter), until I finally said if you post it one more time, you WILL be banned.

The meassage was clear, you would be banned if you posted that message again.

You chose to ignore this last warning, and you once again posted.

You were banned.

You cannot complain that you were not given warning, or that the banning was uncalled for.

Caelan · 04 Dec 2006, 18:51

Neil why don't you just lock this thread cause it seems to be useless to explain over and over again..if it is or would be any help leave it open but
there are always some people who just don't want to agree with some rules..

White of high why don't you just stop this useless discussion..
you know the rules and you know the answers and explanations

if you can't live with that just leave.

sunneke · 04 Dec 2006, 19:02

i totaly agree with Caelan, the rules are clear, Mouse thinks he has to explain it AGAIN... no you don't Mouse, its repeating youre earlyer post, and it seems that White of Hight just wont agree. Can we please move on now?

White of High · 04 Dec 2006, 19:10

These rules are bad rules... I think everybody knows...

Flying Mouse!
I wrote it after you've deleted 2 or 3 times my posts. wrote if you want to delete you can but I will copy again until we can't talk about it. Now we talk...

My problem is clear and I want to ask moderators, don't let themselves! What I was writing about freedom of speech in tha past that's true... I rhink... in the future... there will be some new songs by Meat Loaf or somebody else on internet and we can listen them, let writing our opinions and forget Meat Loaf's message what was the next:

"My so devoted fans, were getting adds from many radio stations and the phones and research are very good, with fans like some of you, I sure don't need enemies . If your going to be so negative , keep your opinions to yourself . If you want be negative go somewhere else to post all your BS and not here. If you can't or you think I'm wrong my name will be off this site as fast as I can get it off. People come to a fan site for the first time and all they see are fans being negative, how does that help the process . If you think I'm wrong that's fine but by this time next week this site will not be a Meat Loaf site."

Now compare: It's All Coming Back To Me Now is not as good as Celine's or Pandora's version...

djfierce · 04 Dec 2006, 19:11

It seems White is just being argumentative, i'm getting really pissed just lately reading all the crap going on so i'll be as reserved as i can.
You claim it was as simple as giving an opinion on the song before it was released. That cant be true! Simply because there is a whole thread which i believe was called .... Now you've heard it review it....... which was started after the liner notes radio show.....where reviews were put on by many people (never deleted, though some negative) about the album which had not been released yet.

Nuff said...get over it
We can do without one more argumentative person here

**The Flying Mouse** · 04 Dec 2006, 19:14

OK, i've explained this very clearly, and the thread is still running.

Go back and re read my last post on this thread as it is the final word on the subject.

Before I lock this, I would like to put a reminder up in advance (call it insurance) that starting duplicate threads of topics already locked by a staff member are against the forum rules.

*AndyK* · 04 Dec 2006, 19:18

What's done is done.

White, if you've still got issues, there's not alot that can be done about it in retrospect. In the future, let's just see what happens huh? You know the drill with regards to any "moderation" type decision made on here, as does everyone, if you don't like what's been said to you, then talk to us, preferably via PM rather than letting it turn into another public slanging match where it seems to turn into open season on the people who work so bloody hard to keep this site going for everyones enjoyment ...

04 Dec 2006, 18:18	#51
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	Lucy! I know why I've been banned. I know... what my problem is (what nobody understands here) the rule. No, it's not rule. It's a message by Meat Loaf and the moderator hmmm... was licking his ass? :) I know, I played with limes, I played with the toleration of the moderators. It's not a question anymore. I am so sad for Meat sent a PM or mail to moderators that don't let to write negative opinions abot his songs before release. It was on internet, there was a video of the song on internet. Accept opinions and say Meat: No, I won't delete it, it's only an opinion. If you can tolerate that, don't put your video before release or anything else. My problem is Meat Loaf-'s quote and the moderators' reaction... I will never accept and understand. Is it clear?

04 Dec 2006, 18:35	#52
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	I see your point, because given what you've said ( which I can't comment on because this has nothing at all to do with me ) it would seem that the thread was changed etc due to the PM being from Meat rather than another "regular" member, and if that's the case then I see why you're pi$$ed about it...but is there any need for a ranting match v's moderators on here? I fail to see why if there was still an issue about this it couldn't have been dealt with over PM/Email

04 Dec 2006, 18:51	#54
Caelan life is one big adventure Join Date: 23.06.2005 Location: some town in Alberta called Leduc Posts: 5,550	Neil why don't you just lock this thread cause it seems to be useless to explain over and over again..if it is or would be any help leave it open but there are always some people who just don't want to agree with some rules.. White of high why don't you just stop this useless discussion.. you know the rules and you know the answers and explanations if you can't live with that just leave.

04 Dec 2006, 19:02	#55
sunneke Mega Loafer Join Date: 17.01.2006 Location: Amersfoort Posts: 2,263	i totaly agree with Caelan, the rules are clear, Mouse thinks he has to explain it AGAIN... no you don't Mouse, its repeating youre earlyer post, and it seems that White of Hight just wont agree. Can we please move on now?

04 Dec 2006, 19:10	#56
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	These rules are bad rules... I think everybody knows... Flying Mouse! I wrote it after you've deleted 2 or 3 times my posts. wrote if you want to delete you can but I will copy again until we can't talk about it. Now we talk... My problem is clear and I want to ask moderators, don't let themselves! What I was writing about freedom of speech in tha past that's true... I rhink... in the future... there will be some new songs by Meat Loaf or somebody else on internet and we can listen them, let writing our opinions and forget Meat Loaf's message what was the next: "My so devoted fans, were getting adds from many radio stations and the phones and research are very good, with fans like some of you, I sure don't need enemies . If your going to be so negative , keep your opinions to yourself . If you want be negative go somewhere else to post all your BS and not here. If you can't or you think I'm wrong my name will be off this site as fast as I can get it off. People come to a fan site for the first time and all they see are fans being negative, how does that help the process . If you think I'm wrong that's fine but by this time next week this site will not be a Meat Loaf site." Now compare: It's All Coming Back To Me Now is not as good as Celine's or Pandora's version...

04 Dec 2006, 19:11	#57
djfierce Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2005 Location: Posts: 3,596	It seems White is just being argumentative, i'm getting really pissed just lately reading all the crap going on so i'll be as reserved as i can. You claim it was as simple as giving an opinion on the song before it was released. That cant be true! Simply because there is a whole thread which i believe was called .... Now you've heard it review it....... which was started after the liner notes radio show.....where reviews were put on by many people (never deleted, though some negative) about the album which had not been released yet. Nuff said...get over it We can do without one more argumentative person here

04 Dec 2006, 19:14	#58
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	OK, i've explained this very clearly, and the thread is still running. Go back and re read my last post on this thread as it is the final word on the subject. Before I lock this, I would like to put a reminder up in advance (call it insurance) that starting duplicate threads of topics already locked by a staff member are against the forum rules.

04 Dec 2006, 19:18	#59
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	What's done is done. White, if you've still got issues, there's not alot that can be done about it in retrospect. In the future, let's just see what happens huh? You know the drill with regards to any "moderation" type decision made on here, as does everyone, if you don't like what's been said to you, then talk to us, preferably via PM rather than letting it turn into another public slanging match where it seems to turn into open season on the people who work so bloody hard to keep this site going for everyones enjoyment ...