Rank the Songs Greatest To Least: Jim Steinman's Bad For Good - Page 4

Pudding · 12 Sep 2010, 23:45

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

I'm the plumber who fixes the sink. Then hope you hire me again.

How much do you charge per hour? because my bathroom needs sorting

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Originally Posted by Steve6

I'm happy that you came out and told us the facts, because to be fair to us fans we don't always get the right side of the story until you come out and tell us.

Not true. The 'fans', well the semi-intelligent ones anyway, can determine what is or isn't plausible add it to the possible and come up with the probable. It's people like you who make shit up and twist things for your own agenda...whatever the hell that may be

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Originally Posted by daveake

Blimey, are you two the same person?

BORG!!!

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Originally Posted by AndyK

If Meat had recorded BfG (or Renegade Angel or whatever it was going to be called) with a vocal that was as strong as it was on Bat, then it would IMO without a doubt have been the benchmark that every other subsequent artist was measured against when they released their "tricky second album".

Agreed

MeatGrl1 · 12 Sep 2010, 23:45

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

that is not the truth. didn't like stark raving love or DIMP . LOVE THE REST
get your facts right !!! All they had to do was wait a few more months there was no rush. What do they say" money is the root of all evil "!!
Truth !!

Meat,
I don't want to cause a stir but you did actually perform DIMP with Karla in the 70's !! You can see how some might think you liked it...

Pudding · 12 Sep 2010, 23:48

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Originally Posted by MeatGrl1

Meat,
I don't want to cause a stir but you did actually perform DIMP with Karla in the 70's !! You can see how some might think you liked it...

He's also performed songs from Bat3 and he's come out said he pretty much doesn't like the album. Just because you sing a song doesn't mean you have to like it.

MeatGrl1 · 12 Sep 2010, 23:49

I understand that but few don't

!!

Wario · 12 Sep 2010, 23:50

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Originally Posted by MeatGrl1

Meat,
I don't want to cause a stir but you did actually perform DIMP with Karla in the 70's !! You can see how some might think you liked it...

You mean The Goffs in 1988.... unless Im missing something

MeatGrl1 · 12 Sep 2010, 23:51

I've heard Meat and Karla do it Wario, Karla was with Meat til 78/79

Pudding · 12 Sep 2010, 23:59

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Originally Posted by MeatGrl1

I've heard Meat and Karla do it Wario,

KINKYYYYYYYY!!!

MeatGrl1 · 12 Sep 2010, 23:59

Trust you Pudding

!!

AndrewG · 13 Sep 2010, 10:27

I'm pretty sure Meat didn't do Dance in my Pants till the 1988 tour.

Pudding · 13 Sep 2010, 10:44

I think you're correct. DIMP in the 70's doesn't sound right to me

Sarge · 13 Sep 2010, 10:48

Maybe she's thinking of the DIMP music video with Karla and is mistaking Jim for Meat?

AndrewG · 13 Sep 2010, 11:03

Those videos with Jim sucked big time imo.

Pudding · 13 Sep 2010, 11:18

Disturbingly quite a few music video's with Jims music had men dancing around in loin cloths

nikox1 · 13 Sep 2010, 12:58

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

Of course it was my contract. Jim wanted his own record bottom line !! Everyone around him told him he didn't need me !! Oh that's right ! I did nothing to break Bat !! Sorry I forgot, Mad Susan will tell you that it was all Jim . Nothing to do with Todd or Me ! or Roy , Max . or people who really believed at the record co . Or John who got us on Sat. Night Live . Which really broke Bat in May of 1978. History always gets rewritten. Or John Skyes who got 2outa 3 on the radio in Buffalo , where it broke . I have never said, it was all me, my ego is very shallow. I'm the plumber who fixes the sink. Then hope you hire me again.
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Read This,
This is about right !!
http://www.tv.com/interviews-for-bur...ws/145908.html

Yes I wear my heart on a sleeve , and am a fighter, hate lies, and people who change history. but a teddy bear. been told by 100's I am too nice of a person. except for mad susan

love that name mad susan!!!
MAD SUSAN !!!!! DAM SANSU !! That's a good battle knight name.
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thanks Meat!! i do think you are a bit mad [ but in a nice way ]

nikox1 · 13 Sep 2010, 13:00

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Originally Posted by Evil One

This album should never have been recorded by Jim. He shouldn't have been so impatient and waited until Meat was ready. He couldn't have been short of a bob or two.

totally agree

AndrewG · 13 Sep 2010, 13:12

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Originally Posted by Evil One

He couldn't have been short of a bob or two.

I don't know. To me it sounds that with David Sonenberg involved it could end up with the artist owing everyone else money.

**allrevvedup** · 13 Sep 2010, 13:57

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

I don't know. To me it sounds that with David Sonenberg involved it could end up with the artist owing everyone else money.

please let's not get back on to talking about the financial status of an artist regardless of when it was, it was bad enough in the underrated thread.

MeatGrl1 · 13 Sep 2010, 14:03

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Originally Posted by Sarge

Maybe she's thinking of the DIMP music video with Karla and is mistaking Jim for Meat?

No I am not !!
Please don't make me out to be a total idiot, I don't appreciate it !!
I have an audio of the live thing but now I wish I had kept my mouth shut

!!

AndrewG · 13 Sep 2010, 14:09

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Originally Posted by MeatGrl1

No I am not !!
Please don't make me out to be a total idiot, I don't appreciate it !!
I have an audio of the live thing but now I wish I had kept my mouth shut

!!

No-one said you were a total idiot. Maybe I'm wrong but I can't quite comprehend how you could have possibly have heard Meat sing that song with Karla as she was gone from Meat's band by the 1982 tour and I doubt Steinman would have used Dance in my Pants during the Bat tour as otherwise it would be more widely known.

Steve6 · 13 Sep 2010, 14:24

I've never heard Meat singing "Dance in my pants" I doubt any recording exists even a live one. DIMP was Paradise Part II. I thought the title sucked.... "Dance in my Pants"

The only song Meat recorded from BFG in the early 80s was Rock N Roll dreams, because it was supposed to be on Dead Ringer until they traded. But that version has never surfaced, but I'm sure it does exist somewhere.

*AndyK* · 13 Sep 2010, 14:26

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Originally Posted by Steve6

I've never heard Meat singing "Dance in my pants" I doubt any recording exists even a live one. DIMP was Paradise Part II. I thought the title sucked.... "Dance in my Pants"

There are at least two different versions of Meat singing Dance In My Pants live in 1988 circulating, one from Vienna and the other from Birmingham.

Evil One · 13 Sep 2010, 14:26

YouTube Video

Steve6 · 13 Sep 2010, 14:43

Paradise Part II.

thanks for that.

Sarge · 13 Sep 2010, 15:11

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Originally Posted by MeatGrl1

Please don't make me out to be a total idiot, I don't appreciate it !!

I never intended to make you look like a "total idiot". It was just an assumption as apparently no one knows of such a recording (Meat & Karla that is). I sometimes mix something up myself.

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Originally Posted by MeatGrl1

I have an audio of the live thing but now I wish I had kept my mouth shut

!!

If you do, maybe you have further info on it? I don't know any Meat Loaf version of that song prior to the late 1980s, so I'd like to know when and where he allegedly sang it with Karla.

AndrewG · 13 Sep 2010, 15:12

That is a great live version imo. Thanks for posting. Must have been great but weird at the same time hearing Meat doing a pretty much completely unknown song.

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Originally Posted by Steve6

Paradise Part II.

thanks for that.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what Jim was doing was trying to write a Bat sequel or copy with BFG.
BFG -> copy/sequel to Bat
Pants -> copy/sequel to Paradise
Left in The Dark -> copy/sequel to 2 out of Three / For Crying Out Loud
Lost Boys & Golden Girls -> copy/sequel to Heaven Can Wait
Stark Raving Love and/or Frying Pan could perhaps even be considered a sequel to All Revved Up.

He basically stuck with the same elements and themes. I personally don't see anything wrong with that and think BFG has more than enough exciting and beautiful songs but at the same time I can understand Meat's part disinterest in doing something that is so similar in structure. In my opinion not until Total Eclipse did we get something COMPLETELY new from Steinman.

12 Sep 2010, 23:49	#79
MeatGrl1 No Day But Today Join Date: 29.05.2006 Location: Sitting on the steps outside looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 9,089	I understand that but few don't !!

12 Sep 2010, 23:51	#81
MeatGrl1 No Day But Today Join Date: 29.05.2006 Location: Sitting on the steps outside looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 9,089	I've heard Meat and Karla do it Wario, Karla was with Meat til 78/79

12 Sep 2010, 23:59	#83
MeatGrl1 No Day But Today Join Date: 29.05.2006 Location: Sitting on the steps outside looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 9,089	Trust you Pudding !!

13 Sep 2010, 10:27	#84
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	I'm pretty sure Meat didn't do Dance in my Pants till the 1988 tour.

13 Sep 2010, 10:44	#85
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	I think you're correct. DIMP in the 70's doesn't sound right to me

13 Sep 2010, 10:48	#86
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	Maybe she's thinking of the DIMP music video with Karla and is mistaking Jim for Meat?

13 Sep 2010, 11:03	#87
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	Those videos with Jim sucked big time imo.

13 Sep 2010, 11:18	#88
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Disturbingly quite a few music video's with Jims music had men dancing around in loin cloths

13 Sep 2010, 14:24	#95
Steve6 Batman Join Date: 28.11.2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,690	I've never heard Meat singing "Dance in my pants" I doubt any recording exists even a live one. DIMP was Paradise Part II. I thought the title sucked.... "Dance in my Pants" The only song Meat recorded from BFG in the early 80s was Rock N Roll dreams, because it was supposed to be on Dead Ringer until they traded. But that version has never surfaced, but I'm sure it does exist somewhere.

13 Sep 2010, 14:43	#98
Steve6 Batman Join Date: 28.11.2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,690	Paradise Part II. thanks for that.