Meat Loaf on Twitter - Page 43

**RadioMaster** · 20 Aug 2009, 19:17

I think it's the situation that Meat has an image in his mind of what the album should sound like, and RC does all the technical stuff, chosing songwriters, etc
The fact that Rob Cavallo takes care of the production doesnt mean Meat has no influence.

And personally speaking, I'd rather see him give the job to someone really good, than doing half the job himself. The two albums with his biggest involvement (MATLAF and BBIS) are his weakest (IMO).

suzieq · 20 Aug 2009, 19:34

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

I think it's the situation that Meat has an image in his mind of what the album should sound like, and RC does all the technical stuff, chosing songwriters, etc
The fact that Rob Cavallo takes care of the production doesnt mean Meat has no influence.

I agree with this scenario. Imo, Meat is the visionary and Rob is the one that goes...I have a guy/or gal for that! Happens to be that the chosen people are song writers/artist so they are multitasking. Doesn't mean that Meat can remember their names any better.

Suzieq

Sarge · 20 Aug 2009, 19:42

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

The fact that Rob Cavallo takes care of the production doesnt mean Meat has no influence.

That's not what I intended to say, I'm just a little surprised. If I was suggested to record a cool song by someone whom I (maybe?) haven't heard of before or whom I don't know much about I'd get interested and do some research and would definitely remember that person's name. But I have to admit that "D'Artagnan" sounds much cooler than "Eric Nally".

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

And personally speaking, I'd rather see him give the job to someone really good, than doing half the job himself.

I don't doubt that Mr. Cavallo is very good and I'm not going to discuss his abilities as a producer. I just expected that Meat was a little more involved in certain issues, especially since recent interviews imply that he's going to create something special.

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

The two albums with his biggest involvement (MATLAF and BBIS) are his weakest (IMO).

They may be "weak" but they are not bad. Those albums were victims of time and circumstance. BBIS was apparently spoiled by Frank Farian's production, in my opinion. And although Meat Loaf has claimed several times that he can't write songs, I dare to say that the few songs he wrote himself are better than some of the songs that were written for him by others.

bobbin · 20 Aug 2009, 19:49

lets not forget Meat is alot older and wiser now since both of those albums.

Elijah's way · 20 Aug 2009, 19:52

They may be "weak" but they are not bad. Those albums were victims of time and circumstance. BBIS was apparently spoiled by Frank Farian's pruduction, in my opinion. And although Meat Loaf has claimed several times that he can't write songs, I dare to say that the few songs he wrote himself are better than some of the songs that were written for him by others.[/QUOTE]

I couldn't agree more

suzieq · 20 Aug 2009, 22:26

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Originally Posted by Sarge

That's not what I intended to say, I'm just a little surprised. If I was suggested to record a cool song by someone whom I (maybe?) haven't heard of before or whom I don't know much about I'd get interested and do some research and would definitely remember that person's name. But I have to admit that "D'Artagnan" sounds much cooler than "Eric Nally".

I just think we aren't privy to the thought process itself. We don't know what research Meat has done on these writers. Meat and Rob collaborated on this project well before Meat's tweets. If Meat was looking for suggestions for talent, Meat would have the faith in Rob to bring in the talent for the project. As far as remembering, has he ever remembered multiple names during his tweets? Probably why he has groups introduce themselves on his tweets. I don't blame him. Personally, I'm great with faces, bad with names. I just find that he's not reading off of cue cards and he's doing it off the cuff which makes it charming and less staged.

But agreed, D'Artagnan is a cool nickname.

Suzieq

Pudding · 20 Aug 2009, 22:32

So long as he doesn't forget the lyrics then I don't care about the songwriters names.

**RadioMaster** · 20 Aug 2009, 22:51

Have to say I think the singing on the new video is a LOT better than on the first one. Sounds not as forced as the earlier clip.

Keep up the quality Mr Loaf

snider22 · 20 Aug 2009, 23:48

Love the vocals on the latest tweet, sounds great!

And you gotta love those lyrics

Can't wait for the album

evil nickname · 20 Aug 2009, 23:53

ZOMG!!1!eleven! Meat said something so naughty this board won't permit it unless you're very sneaky!

Wario · 20 Aug 2009, 23:56

He's said f-momma so many times on tour (SO MANY). first time the word is actually written (not add libbed) in context on album and song!

last time he really used an "extremely bad-boy mommy doesn't think that's appropriate" bad cuss word on a record was life is a lemon in 1992!

You could argue "whore" but thats a live version sans the crowd....

Mabey this new song will replace Lemon in the set

(finally no more lemon! Time to retire it, i must say)

suzieq · 20 Aug 2009, 23:59

And he comes with a warning label. NICE!

Suzieq

duke knooby · 21 Aug 2009, 00:18

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Originally Posted by Pudding

So long as he doesn't forget the lyrics

pearl and him did very well on that
still no banjo though...

Sarge · 21 Aug 2009, 01:04

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

Have to say I think the singing on the new video is a LOT better than on the first one. Sounds not as forced as the earlier clip.

Yep, and it was "explicit" enough for me to understand the lyrics this time.

I just came home from the pub

and now I know it was a good idea to check the forum in spite of being tired. That video was a nice surprise. I don't know why but I like it, it even made me laugh. That's Rock 'n' Roll, I hope the entire song is like that. Too bad, you can't hear the music. Sounds like it could be a catchy tune. Thanks!

Damn... where's my saboteur attitude?

By the way, who the hell requested the warning, LOL?

clpmss · 21 Aug 2009, 02:33

everyone knows he uses the "F" word if they don't then they aren't from this planet

Wario · 21 Aug 2009, 02:43

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Originally Posted by clpmss

everyone knows he uses the "F" word if they don't then they aren't from this planet

He does but he never used it on an album before

florence75015 · 21 Aug 2009, 03:14

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Originally Posted by Sarge

That's Rock 'n' Roll, I hope the entire song is like that. Too bad, you can't hear the music. Sounds like it could be a catchy tune. Thanks!

I agree, very Rock 'n' Roll style. Could sound great on stage.

Florence

RSG · 21 Aug 2009, 03:20

FFFFFFFFFiretruck... Release date for Christmas, c'mon

Pudding · 21 Aug 2009, 04:40

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Originally Posted by clpmss

everyone knows he uses the "F" word if they don't then they aren't from this planet

What planet would they be from then? Because this planet has about 6.5Billion humans and I'd say at best only 50Million would know that Meat Loaf says Fuck, which equals to less than 0.78% of the population. So when you say everyone that's not really true is it?

Wario · 21 Aug 2009, 06:52

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Originally Posted by Pudding

What planet would they be from then? Because this planet has about 6.5Billion humans and I'd say at best only 50Million would know that Meat Loaf says Fuck, which equals to less than 0.78% of the population. So when you say everyone that's not really true is it?

Smartass

**RadioMaster** · 21 Aug 2009, 09:34

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Originally Posted by suzieq

And he comes with a warning label. NICE!

Suzieq

is it? I personally think it's ridiculous. Same with the parent advisory label on 3 bats live

bobbin · 21 Aug 2009, 10:40

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

You could argue "whore" but thats a live version sans the crowd....

i didnt think the b-side was?? Doesn't sound live to me anyway :hmm: def no crowd in the background.

AndrewG · 21 Aug 2009, 11:59

That's not a live version, it was recorded during the Bat 3 sessions. It may have been done with the whole band in one take, ie without overdubs etc.

nikox1 · 21 Aug 2009, 13:02

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Originally Posted by RSG

FFFFFFFFFiretruck... Release date for Christmas, c'mon

wouldnt that be nice? i would say mar/apr 2010, so not long now

samurai7 · 21 Aug 2009, 15:24

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Originally Posted by bobbin

i didnt think the b-side was?? Doesn't sound live to me anyway :hmm: def no crowd in the background.

that's what sans crowd means; WITHOUT a crowd.

20 Aug 2009, 19:17	#1051
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	I think it's the situation that Meat has an image in his mind of what the album should sound like, and RC does all the technical stuff, chosing songwriters, etc The fact that Rob Cavallo takes care of the production doesnt mean Meat has no influence. And personally speaking, I'd rather see him give the job to someone really good, than doing half the job himself. The two albums with his biggest involvement (MATLAF and BBIS) are his weakest (IMO).

20 Aug 2009, 19:49	#1054
bobbin Senior Loafer Join Date: 10.11.2008 Location: bedfordshire,uk Posts: 116	lets not forget Meat is alot older and wiser now since both of those albums.

20 Aug 2009, 19:52	#1055
Elijah's way Soul Auctioneer Join Date: 26.06.2005 Location: Muscle Shoals, AL Posts: 1,529	They may be "weak" but they are not bad. Those albums were victims of time and circumstance. BBIS was apparently spoiled by Frank Farian's pruduction, in my opinion. And although Meat Loaf has claimed several times that he can't write songs, I dare to say that the few songs he wrote himself are better than some of the songs that were written for him by others.[/QUOTE] I couldn't agree more

20 Aug 2009, 22:32	#1057
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	So long as he doesn't forget the lyrics then I don't care about the songwriters names.

20 Aug 2009, 22:51	#1058
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	Have to say I think the singing on the new video is a LOT better than on the first one. Sounds not as forced as the earlier clip. Keep up the quality Mr Loaf

20 Aug 2009, 23:48	#1059
snider22 Guest Join Date: 23.11.2008 Location: Posts: 525	Love the vocals on the latest tweet, sounds great! And you gotta love those lyrics Can't wait for the album

20 Aug 2009, 23:53	#1060
evil nickname Guest Join Date: 19.04.2003 Posts: 2,238	ZOMG!!1!eleven! Meat said something so naughty this board won't permit it unless you're very sneaky!

20 Aug 2009, 23:56	#1061
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	He's said f-momma so many times on tour (SO MANY). first time the word is actually written (not add libbed) in context on album and song! last time he really used an "extremely bad-boy mommy doesn't think that's appropriate" bad cuss word on a record was life is a lemon in 1992! You could argue "whore" but thats a live version sans the crowd.... Mabey this new song will replace Lemon in the set (finally no more lemon! Time to retire it, i must say)

20 Aug 2009, 23:59	#1062
suzieq Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.10.2008 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 2,319	And he comes with a warning label. NICE! Suzieq

21 Aug 2009, 02:33	#1065
clpmss Anything for Sir Meat Loaf Join Date: 24.09.2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 644	everyone knows he uses the "F" word if they don't then they aren't from this planet

21 Aug 2009, 03:20	#1068
RSG Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	FFFFFFFFFiretruck... Release date for Christmas, c'mon

21 Aug 2009, 11:59	#1073
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	That's not a live version, it was recorded during the Bat 3 sessions. It may have been done with the whole band in one take, ie without overdubs etc.