Possible scam warning - Page 6

melon · 02 Aug 2010, 17:37

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Originally Posted by carole

Don't feel stupid Vicki, just because you were nice enough to offer help to him, and he took advantage of that generosity. I think everyone at some time gets taken in by people like that. Some people can be very convincing when pulling on our heart strings.

Carole

Yeah Vicki, you are one of the nicest, kindest people on here. I lost my grandad a few years back to cancer, so I am utterly discusted that this guy has done this, what a terrible, horrible thing to take advantage of peoples good nature. Pathetic I think.

**RadioMaster** · 02 Aug 2010, 18:11

although the whole story is horrible, let's try not to sink to his level here. I know it's impossible not being bothered by this, but try to keep personal attacks to a reasonalbe amount. Otherwise he'd actually have a point about being harrassed on the forum.

We should all learn from this, but we shouldnt let it ruin our (cyber-) life and friendships made through this site.

24K · 02 Aug 2010, 18:17

I am pleased that the forum mods have dealt with this situation, it could have been much worse, were it not for the excellent work that they have done.
So thank you once again.

AndrewG · 02 Aug 2010, 18:22

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

although the whole story is horrible, let's try not to sink to his level here. I know it's impossible not being bothered by this, but try to keep personal attacks to a reasonalbe amount. Otherwise he'd actually have a point about being harrassed on the forum.

We should all learn from this, but we shouldnt let it ruin our (cyber-) life and friendships made through this site.

Though you have a point here I doubt pretty much any of us here could be accused of sinking to his level. Harrassing / bullying / making fun of, call it what you will is completely different than outright fraud.

wolfy35 · 02 Aug 2010, 18:29

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Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

I rest my case.

It's never been something we have encouraged , but we have in the past (if I recall) let people have threads concerning sponsored events they are taking part in.
I think we've even stickied those threads for a week or so.
It's not something we've really had a problem with.

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I hope that this wont ever stop things like genuine fundraisers taking part in events or caring people taking part in these events or notifying us on here if they are involved.
I think the considered position should be that before any fundraising activity is allowed to be posted the person involved should notify a mod by IM and provide something to show it is genuine, something that anyone who is honest wont have a problem with. I accept that occasionally scammers would do things like make up fake letters etc on their computers but these can easily be checked with something as simple as a phone call or email to the organisation the money is being raised for because they all keep records of any genuine activity on their behalf.

I believe that Meat himself would not wish incidents like this to affect any genuine organisation or person

AndrewG · 02 Aug 2010, 18:33

Didn't Mear use a pink / sponsored cancer research guitar at the actual concert this dude went to? Talk about irony.

LucyK! · 02 Aug 2010, 19:06

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Didn't Mear use a pink / sponsored cancer research guitar at the actual concert this dude went to? Talk about irony.

Perhaps Meat was trying to give him guilt

CarylB · 02 Aug 2010, 21:01

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Didn't Mear use a pink / sponsored cancer research guitar at the actual concert this dude went to? Talk about irony.

He has a Think Pink amp on stage certainly. It's fairly well known, certainly amongst Meat fans, that Meat frequently sponsors cancer charities (particularly in the light of his mother's illness). Mouse suggested AJ may have been angling for a VIP package of sorts, (something which leapt from the page to me also) and the scam may have been so designed to attract Meat's attention/support.

He clearly did meet and talk with Paul. If Meat had seen anything on here before the concert, or was apprised of the tale by Paul, I can imagine Meat having nothing but concern and sympathy. He has a kind heart and always responds caringly to people who have disability or serious illness. I've seen that so often; saw it at Hershey this summer.

Caryl

24K · 02 Aug 2010, 21:50

Meat did at some shows have a Think Pink guitar i saw it at least one of the shows.

24K · 02 Aug 2010, 21:52

Yea at Hershey i remember Meat taking a lot of time and care with a person at the M&G who was in a wheelchair, a very nice woman whose name escapes me.

CarylB · 02 Aug 2010, 22:21

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Originally Posted by 24K

Yea at Hershey i remember Meat taking a lot of time and care with a person at the M&G who was in a wheelchair, a very nice woman whose name escapes me.

Yes .. and I was particularly thinking of how sweet he was with .. was it Laurence? Came with the American guy who was his carer I think.

Caryl

Breeze · 02 Aug 2010, 22:40

Yes we have to be careful but not let ourselves become jaded. As I recall Vee and how the Meat Loaf community gave to her and grieved with her.

Vickip · 02 Aug 2010, 23:51

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Originally Posted by melon

Yeah Vicki, you are one of the nicest, kindest people on here. I lost my grandad a few years back to cancer, so I am utterly discusted that this guy has done this, what a terrible, horrible thing to take advantage of peoples good nature. Pathetic I think.

Thanks Mel

And yes, it's very pathetic

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Originally Posted by 24K

I am pleased that the forum mods have dealt with this situation, it could have been much worse, were it not for the excellent work that they have done.
So thank you once again.

I second that .. thank you.

Vickip · 02 Aug 2010, 23:53

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Originally Posted by 24K

Meat did at some shows have a Think Pink guitar i saw it at least one of the shows.

Yes he did .... at all of the shows I saw

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24K

Yea at Hershey i remember Meat taking a lot of time and care with a person at the M&G who was in a wheelchair, a very nice woman whose name escapes me.

Yes, I remember that. She was a very sweet woman who sat behind me during the show

R. · 03 Aug 2010, 00:04

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Just out of interest, what is the policy on the mods/admins reading everyones personal messages? It could have turned out that this tosser had been begging those taken in for money via PM. Then again there is the issue of privacy to consider. I assume it's possible for someone to monitor all messages sent from/to a certain member, but would it ever be done?

vBulletin does not have an interface to monitor and/or access private messages. What the the admin control panel allows you to see is the number of stored private messages per user.

However, as I have physical access to the database where all content is stored, I can very well access those messages using a proper set of queries. But in this particular case it's way more efficient to reset the user's password, log in and simply browse the messages.

Vickip · 03 Aug 2010, 01:26

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Originally Posted by R.

vBulletin does not have an interface to monitor and/or access private messages. What the the admin control panel allows you to see is the number of stored private messages per user.

However, as I have physical access to the database where all content is stored, I can very well access those messages using a proper set of queries. But in this particular case it's way more efficient to reset the user's password, log in and simply browse the messages.

Very interesting .. thanks R.

Do you have any ideas / or suggestions of how I can delete my membership
on his forum without having to actually contact him

It's a free forum developed using http://www.phpbb3now.com/

The reason I'm asking is that he sent me a PM on there asking why I deleted him from my friends list on FB. I didn't reply to his PM there, and don't want to have any more contact with him.

Thanks, Vicki

unbekannt · 03 Aug 2010, 01:38

I'm afraid you can't delete it yourself, only administrators can delete member accounts.

Vickip · 03 Aug 2010, 02:29

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Originally Posted by unbekannt

I'm afraid you can't delete it yourself, only administrators can delete member accounts.

Oh ok, thanks

Pudding · 03 Aug 2010, 03:58

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Originally Posted by R.

However, as I have physical access to the database where all content is stored, I can very well access those messages using a proper set of queries. But in this particular case it's way more efficient to reset the user's password, log in and simply browse the messages.

Interesting. So you'd be able to find out who pesters Meat Loaf the most with gibberish PM's then?. I'd love to see that top 10 list

AndrewG · 03 Aug 2010, 09:05

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Originally Posted by Pudding

Interesting. So you'd be able to find out who pesters Meat Loaf the most with gibberish PM's then?. I'd love to see that top 10 list

I've often wondered if he gets the javascript pop up too when he logs on. It must be as irritating as hell if he does!

MeatGrl1 · 03 Aug 2010, 09:38

I doubt he does somehow...

24K · 03 Aug 2010, 12:56

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Originally Posted by CarylB

Yes .. and I was particularly thinking of how sweet he was with .. was it Laurence? Came with the American guy who was his carer I think.

Caryl

Ahh yes, Meat was so patient and sweet, was lovely to see

Sue K · 03 Aug 2010, 13:16

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Originally Posted by 24K

Ahh yes, Meat was so patient and sweet, was lovely to see

yes it was ... for me... the meet is part of the show... part of the whole experience... i so enjoy watching Meat interact with the fans and there was quite an assortment to observe this time... as has been mentioned, the lady in the wheelchair (who sat next to me at the show and had a great time rockin' out ! ... lol... i told her after how much fun she was to sit beside ... she having so much fun! ) ... and Laurence ... the "special needs" man ... and then there were Karen's two little girls ... not sure of their ages... Michelle, you'd know, i think ... about nine, ten... the older one maybe and the other about 7 ? ... watching the girls interact with Meat and vice versed put a smile on my face ... yeah ... i really think this was the bestest meet ever for me ...

Vickip · 03 Aug 2010, 15:52

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Originally Posted by tink

yes it was ... for me... the meet is part of the show... part of the whole experience... i so enjoy watching Meat interact with the fans and there was quite an assortment to observe this time... as has been mentioned, the lady in the wheelchair (who sat next to me at the show and had a great time rockin' out ! ... lol... i told her after how much fun she was to sit beside ... she having so much fun! ) ... and Laurence ... the "special needs" man ... and then there were Karen's two little girls ... not sure of their ages... Michelle, you'd know, i think ... about nine, ten... the older one maybe and the other about 7 ? ... watching the girls interact with Meat and vice versed put a smile on my face ... yeah ... i really think this was the bestest meet ever for me ...

I was one of the first ones and, unfortunately, had to leave after
my picture. So I missed seeing Laurence and Meat's interaction with
Karen's little girls. But I agree with you tink ... I just love watching Meat
interacting with the other fans that haven't met him before, and this
was one of the best M&Gs for me too

And I'm so glad you and the woman both had such a great time

Vicki

A Slice Of English · 03 Aug 2010, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip

I was one of the first ones and, unfortunately, had to leave after
my picture. So I missed seeing Laurence and Meat's interaction with
Karen's little girls. But I agree with you tink ... I just love watching Meat
interacting with the other fans that haven't met him before, and this
was one of the best M&Gs for me too

And I'm so glad you and the woman both had such a great time

Vicki

I giggled like a girl at some rubbish joke Meat made to try and set me at my ease when I met him at Broadlands in '08. The guy was a true gent and I found myself totally overwhelmed by his presence, despite his obvious desire to be easygoing with us. I was a dick and completely pathetic in my lack of response but I was starstruck, well and truly!!

02 Aug 2010, 18:11	#127
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	although the whole story is horrible, let's try not to sink to his level here. I know it's impossible not being bothered by this, but try to keep personal attacks to a reasonalbe amount. Otherwise he'd actually have a point about being harrassed on the forum. We should all learn from this, but we shouldnt let it ruin our (cyber-) life and friendships made through this site.

02 Aug 2010, 18:17	#128
24K Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2003 Location: WAY UP NORTH Posts: 1,923	I am pleased that the forum mods have dealt with this situation, it could have been much worse, were it not for the excellent work that they have done. So thank you once again.

02 Aug 2010, 18:33	#131
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	Didn't Mear use a pink / sponsored cancer research guitar at the actual concert this dude went to? Talk about irony.

02 Aug 2010, 21:50	#134
24K Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2003 Location: WAY UP NORTH Posts: 1,923	Meat did at some shows have a Think Pink guitar i saw it at least one of the shows.

02 Aug 2010, 21:52	#135
24K Mega Loafer Join Date: 20.10.2003 Location: WAY UP NORTH Posts: 1,923	Yea at Hershey i remember Meat taking a lot of time and care with a person at the M&G who was in a wheelchair, a very nice woman whose name escapes me.

02 Aug 2010, 22:40	#137
Breeze Miss Inclined Join Date: 24.07.2010 Location: Posts: 448	Yes we have to be careful but not let ourselves become jaded. As I recall Vee and how the Meat Loaf community gave to her and grieved with her.

03 Aug 2010, 01:38	#142
unbekannt Super Loafer Join Date: 10.07.2010 Location: Wonderland Posts: 371	I'm afraid you can't delete it yourself, only administrators can delete member accounts.

03 Aug 2010, 09:38	#146
MeatGrl1 No Day But Today Join Date: 29.05.2006 Location: Sitting on the steps outside looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 9,089	I doubt he does somehow...