Official Meat Loaf Site / Fanclub - Page 6

ROSIE · 22 Mar 2005, 22:50

yes Debs i renewed 2 weeks before the take over, R has said it all the ticket section works, the part that takes your money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They seem to have a lot of tickets left?

Rosie

Deb · 22 Mar 2005, 22:55

Rosie how did you renew 2 weeks before? I thought they wasnt accepting any new members?

Deb

ROSIE · 22 Mar 2005, 22:58

I was already a member but just expired, they were not accepting new members but quite happy to rip me off for my renewal fee!

Rosie

R. · 22 Mar 2005, 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by kp3

@ R thats my point i CAN'T get on the section for whatever reason and they don't reply to emails.

How far are you able to proceed?
Can you actually login?

kp3 · 22 Mar 2005, 23:07

Yes i can log in says welcome and all that i go and click tickets says cant proceed thats it

R. · 22 Mar 2005, 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROSIE

I was already a member but just expired, they were not accepting new members but quite happy to rip me off for my renewal fee!

Rosie

Did you ask your credit card company to cancel that deal or to refund?

R. · 22 Mar 2005, 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by kp3

Yes i can log in says welcome and all that i go and click tickets says cant proceed thats it

Do you see this error message? http://www.fanfire.com/nocookies.html

ROSIE · 22 Mar 2005, 23:11

Too late company out of business you get in line and have to spend £100 or over before they take action evenn if it's fraud etc. I thought .net would show a little more goodwill to people like me and Debs who have lost nearly a year's subscription. But no I was wrong they want the name but not the responsibilty I will not renew after my free 6 months up.

Rosie

kp3 · 22 Mar 2005, 23:15

yes that appeared the first time i logged on then i did every thing it told me to do every thing in the department fine

R. · 22 Mar 2005, 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by kp3

yes that appeared the first time i logged on then i did every thing it told me to do every thing in the department fine

Hmm well ... probably not. Are you by any chance using IE6 on Windows XP Service Pack2?
If so, you probably have lower the cookie restriction settings for meatloaf.net and fanfire.com to "Accept all cookies".
Also, check if you have some cookie blocking personal firewall software running.

Steve · 22 Mar 2005, 23:26

The state government portal is www.ca.gov. Navigate to the family and consumer menu and go to Consumer and Families Rights and Remedies then Complaints Against Businesses. Finally, follow the 'file a complaint' link.

Have fun

Deb · 22 Mar 2005, 23:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.

Hmm well ... probably not. Are you by any chance using IE6 on Windows XP Service Pack2?
If so, you probably have lower the cookie restriction settings for meatloaf.net and fanfire.com to "Accept all cookies".
Also, check if you have some cookie blocking personal firewall software running.

Thinking about it, I had to turn my Norton firewall off to access it.

Deb

kp3 · 22 Mar 2005, 23:46

I have Mcafee i have set it to allow all cookies i have turned Mcafee of i have done every thing i can possibly do and still i cant get on, i have now given up all hope of ever trying to sort it out.

R. · 23 Mar 2005, 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by kp3

I have Mcafee i have set it to allow all cookies i have turned Mcafee of i have done every thing i can possibly do and still i cant get on, i have now given up all hope of ever trying to sort it out.

Something on your computer is blocking cookies (that's where your login information is stored). You just need to figure out what it is.

faolteam · 23 Mar 2005, 01:54

I THINK A FEW THINGS ARE COMING OUT HERE VERY CLEARILY

1. HAVE WE BEEN RIPPED OFF?? YES WE HAVE

2. HAS THIS COMPANY MADE ANY EFFORT TO REPLY TO PEOPLE IN GENERAL AND I DON'T MEAN PEOPLE WHO ARE COMPLAINING, NO THEY HAVE NOT

3.WHY DOES THIS NEW FAN CLUB HAVE A CONTACT PAGE IF THEY HAVENT GOT THE COURTESY TO REPLY, BEATS ME

4. WHAT DOES Signature Network AND TURNSTYLES GOT IN COMMON; THEY BOTH AT THE VERY BEGINNING WANTED YOUR MONEY FIRST BEFORE THE FAN CLUB WAS SET UP OR READY? TRUE

5. HOW MANY PEOPLE PAY FOR A AUTOMOBILE, A HAIR CUT, A SUITE OF FURNITURE, ETC ETC IF ITS NOT READY, NONE OF US, SO WE WERE TRICKED INTO BUYING SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT READY, CORRECT

6. NO MATTER WHAT WAY WE LOOK AT IT OR WHO TAKES IT OVER WE WERE DUPED TURNSTYLES GOT AWAY WITH IT AND WE LET THEM WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, ITS TO LATE DO ANYTHING ABOUT UR CREDIT CARDS AND CHEQUES ONCE 90 DAYS EXPIRES

AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE EMAIL BELOW THEY CLEARILY STATE : Please allow up to 10 weeks for the delivery of your membership package. AND USE MEAT LOAF'S NAME ENDORSING IT ???.

SO BY THIS TIME THEY ARE WELL GONE.

SO WHAT I WANT TO KNOW WHY OR WHO LET THESE PEOPLE IN THE FIRST PLACE TO SET UP THIS FAN CLUB THATS THE REAL CULPRIT AINT IT UP TO THEM TO SORT IT OUT ???

Hi Keith,

Memberships are valid for one year, and then a renewal notice is sent out. So, it's up to you to renew the membership. How many years of membership did you want?

- Morgan
Meat Loaf Support
Thanks for joining the Meat Loaf Fanclub. You have signed up for an annual membership.

As a new member you will receive a membership package in the mail. Please allow up to 10 weeks for the delivery of your membership package.

ACCESS THE MEMBERS ONLY AREA NOW:

You can immediately access the Members Only area of Meatloaf.net with the username and password you have selected. When signing in to the Members Only area, please use the following:
lease email all inquiries to support@meatloaf.net and be sure to always include your full name, username and order number: 167436

Regards,

Meat Loaf & The Meat Loaf Fanclub

************************************

R. · 23 Mar 2005, 09:32

This thread is going nowhere.

If I see another post in ALL CAPS shouting at everyone, I'll lock and delete the complete thread right away.
This is NOT a "post-your-complaint-website". Please respect that or post your complaints somewhere else.

JGrayland · 23 Mar 2005, 19:09

Wait some people COULD login for tickets??? i know i have my cookies set to accept all, so wtf. this sucks, i knew i shouldnt have bothered spending the 40 on signing with the "new" club.

R. · 23 Mar 2005, 19:14

2 things:
(1) Watch your language!
(2) It actually does work. Check if you have a personal firewall running that blocks cookies. The Norton Internet Security Firewall blocks cookies by default, as an example.

JGrayland · 23 Mar 2005, 19:19

if that were so i couldnt login to ANY site, correct??? its the only one that doesnt work for me, everything else (mesg boards, online banking stuff, etc) are all working fine.

and i didnt swear, i abbreviated :)

R. · 23 Mar 2005, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by JGrayland

if that were so i couldnt login to ANY site, correct??? its the only one that doesnt work for me, everything else (mesg boards, online banking stuff, etc) are all working fine.

and i didnt swear, i abbreviated :)

Nope. That depends how the site scripting is done.

JGrayland · 23 Mar 2005, 19:34

so what should i do, shut off every security and protection i have when its good enough for every other site i have been to??? lame.

faolteam · 24 Mar 2005, 02:27

i apologise for the caps i did not realise i couldn't use them,

i am really dissapointed that i can not air my views on this site as from what i can see the majority off fans here joined the site and lost , don't you think it's only fair to warn our members , i am only trying to warn other people about the pitfalls that occured with this fan club.

i also feel as a member of this MLUKFC its my democratic right as i was one of the people ripped off

kp3 · 24 Mar 2005, 20:12

@ JGrayland i can login to the site but it will not let me on the tickets section R advised the same turn of the cookies i did this still wouldn't let me on i have a friend who is a computer expert i told him the situation and he advised that if it was a cookie problem thenit would not let you sign in i gave him my user name and password he tried on his comp and he could not navigate either so where does that leaves us well i just dont no but it certainly isn't a cookie problem like R says but a site problem in my opinion and they are STILL not repling to emails.

R. · 24 Mar 2005, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by kp3

@ JGrayland i can login to the site but it will not let me on the tickets section R advised the same turn of the cookies i did this still wouldn't let me on i have a friend who is a computer expert i told him the situation and he advised that if it was a cookie problem thenit would not let you sign in i gave him my user name and password he tried on his comp and he could not navigate either so where does that leaves us well i just dont no but it certainly isn't a cookie problem like R says but a site problem in my opinion and they are STILL not repling to emails.

Sigh. What makes you think that your login was successful? You don't get an error message if you try to sign on with the wrong credentials. The "Thank you for logging in screen" is just a simple redirect which gets executed anyway, logged in corerectly or not.

The only hint that your login was successful is that the "Login" phrase on the top right corner changes to "Logout".
If it doesn't say "Logout", then you are simply not logged in.

Well, I could tell you again to allow cookies and to turn off your cookie blocking firewall (just as a try),
but as you and your expert think that I'm wrong, I just skip that.

I'll post a screenshot of the ticketstore after successful login (Cookies allowed, no cookie blocking firewall) instead.

Deb · 24 Mar 2005, 21:38

It also says your name in the top left hand corner if you are logged in

22 Mar 2005, 23:11	#133
ROSIE Invisible again! Join Date: 30.06.2003 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1,240	Too late company out of business you get in line and have to spend £100 or over before they take action evenn if it's fraud etc. I thought .net would show a little more goodwill to people like me and Debs who have lost nearly a year's subscription. But no I was wrong they want the name but not the responsibilty I will not renew after my free 6 months up. Rosie Last edited by ROSIE; 22 Mar 2005 at 23:17. Reason: added info

23 Mar 2005, 01:54	#140
faolteam Super Loafer Join Date: 28.05.2002 Posts: 244	So I Want To Know Why Or Who Let These People In The First Place To Set Up This Fan I THINK A FEW THINGS ARE COMING OUT HERE VERY CLEARILY 1. HAVE WE BEEN RIPPED OFF?? YES WE HAVE 2. HAS THIS COMPANY MADE ANY EFFORT TO REPLY TO PEOPLE IN GENERAL AND I DON'T MEAN PEOPLE WHO ARE COMPLAINING, NO THEY HAVE NOT 3.WHY DOES THIS NEW FAN CLUB HAVE A CONTACT PAGE IF THEY HAVENT GOT THE COURTESY TO REPLY, BEATS ME 4. WHAT DOES Signature Network AND TURNSTYLES GOT IN COMMON; THEY BOTH AT THE VERY BEGINNING WANTED YOUR MONEY FIRST BEFORE THE FAN CLUB WAS SET UP OR READY? TRUE 5. HOW MANY PEOPLE PAY FOR A AUTOMOBILE, A HAIR CUT, A SUITE OF FURNITURE, ETC ETC IF ITS NOT READY, NONE OF US, SO WE WERE TRICKED INTO BUYING SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT READY, CORRECT 6. NO MATTER WHAT WAY WE LOOK AT IT OR WHO TAKES IT OVER WE WERE DUPED TURNSTYLES GOT AWAY WITH IT AND WE LET THEM WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, ITS TO LATE DO ANYTHING ABOUT UR CREDIT CARDS AND CHEQUES ONCE 90 DAYS EXPIRES AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE EMAIL BELOW THEY CLEARILY STATE : Please allow up to 10 weeks for the delivery of your membership package. AND USE MEAT LOAF'S NAME ENDORSING IT ???. SO BY THIS TIME THEY ARE WELL GONE. SO WHAT I WANT TO KNOW WHY OR WHO LET THESE PEOPLE IN THE FIRST PLACE TO SET UP THIS FAN CLUB THATS THE REAL CULPRIT AINT IT UP TO THEM TO SORT IT OUT ??? Hi Keith, Memberships are valid for one year, and then a renewal notice is sent out. So, it's up to you to renew the membership. How many years of membership did you want? - Morgan Meat Loaf Support Thanks for joining the Meat Loaf Fanclub. You have signed up for an annual membership. As a new member you will receive a membership package in the mail. Please allow up to 10 weeks for the delivery of your membership package. ACCESS THE MEMBERS ONLY AREA NOW: You can immediately access the Members Only area of Meatloaf.net with the username and password you have selected. When signing in to the Members Only area, please use the following: lease email all inquiries to support@meatloaf.net and be sure to always include your full name, username and order number: 167436 Regards, Meat Loaf & The Meat Loaf Fanclub ************************************ Last edited by faolteam; 23 Mar 2005 at 02:02.

24 Mar 2005, 02:27	#147
faolteam Super Loafer Join Date: 28.05.2002 Posts: 244	i think it's important to air your views i apologise for the caps i did not realise i couldn't use them, i am really dissapointed that i can not air my views on this site as from what i can see the majority off fans here joined the site and lost , don't you think it's only fair to warn our members , i am only trying to warn other people about the pitfalls that occured with this fan club. i also feel as a member of this MLUKFC its my democratic right as i was one of the people ripped off

22 Mar 2005, 22:50	#126
ROSIE Invisible again! Join Date: 30.06.2003 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1,240	yes Debs i renewed 2 weeks before the take over, R has said it all the ticket section works, the part that takes your money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They seem to have a lot of tickets left? Rosie

22 Mar 2005, 22:55	#127
Deb Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.04.2003 Location: Did I say that?... Posts: 4,162	Rosie how did you renew 2 weeks before? I thought they wasnt accepting any new members? Deb

22 Mar 2005, 22:58	#128
ROSIE Invisible again! Join Date: 30.06.2003 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1,240	I was already a member but just expired, they were not accepting new members but quite happy to rip me off for my renewal fee! Rosie

22 Mar 2005, 23:07	#130
kp3 Rookie Join Date: 28.11.2003 Location: some where over the rainbow Posts: 24	Yes i can log in says welcome and all that i go and click tickets says cant proceed thats it

22 Mar 2005, 23:15	#134
kp3 Rookie Join Date: 28.11.2003 Location: some where over the rainbow Posts: 24	yes that appeared the first time i logged on then i did every thing it told me to do every thing in the department fine

22 Mar 2005, 23:26	#136
Steve Senior Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Staring through the fire at the future Posts: 157	The state government portal is www.ca.gov. Navigate to the family and consumer menu and go to Consumer and Families Rights and Remedies then Complaints Against Businesses. Finally, follow the 'file a complaint' link. Have fun

22 Mar 2005, 23:46	#138
kp3 Rookie Join Date: 28.11.2003 Location: some where over the rainbow Posts: 24	I have Mcafee i have set it to allow all cookies i have turned Mcafee of i have done every thing i can possibly do and still i cant get on, i have now given up all hope of ever trying to sort it out.

23 Mar 2005, 09:32	#141
R. You dig. Join Date: 02.04.2002 Location: On the fothermucker Posts: 7,179	This thread is going nowhere. If I see another post in ALL CAPS shouting at everyone, I'll lock and delete the complete thread right away. This is NOT a "post-your-complaint-website". Please respect that or post your complaints somewhere else.

23 Mar 2005, 19:09	#142
JGrayland Loafer Join Date: 06.11.2003 Posts: 65	Wait some people COULD login for tickets??? i know i have my cookies set to accept all, so wtf. this sucks, i knew i shouldnt have bothered spending the 40 on signing with the "new" club.

23 Mar 2005, 19:14	#143
R. You dig. Join Date: 02.04.2002 Location: On the fothermucker Posts: 7,179	2 things: (1) Watch your language! (2) It actually does work. Check if you have a personal firewall running that blocks cookies. The Norton Internet Security Firewall blocks cookies by default, as an example.

23 Mar 2005, 19:19	#144
JGrayland Loafer Join Date: 06.11.2003 Posts: 65	if that were so i couldnt login to ANY site, correct??? its the only one that doesnt work for me, everything else (mesg boards, online banking stuff, etc) are all working fine. and i didnt swear, i abbreviated :)

23 Mar 2005, 19:34	#146
JGrayland Loafer Join Date: 06.11.2003 Posts: 65	so what should i do, shut off every security and protection i have when its good enough for every other site i have been to??? lame.

24 Mar 2005, 20:12	#148
kp3 Rookie Join Date: 28.11.2003 Location: some where over the rainbow Posts: 24	@ JGrayland i can login to the site but it will not let me on the tickets section R advised the same turn of the cookies i did this still wouldn't let me on i have a friend who is a computer expert i told him the situation and he advised that if it was a cookie problem thenit would not let you sign in i gave him my user name and password he tried on his comp and he could not navigate either so where does that leaves us well i just dont no but it certainly isn't a cookie problem like R says but a site problem in my opinion and they are STILL not repling to emails.

24 Mar 2005, 21:38	#150
Deb Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.04.2003 Location: Did I say that?... Posts: 4,162	It also says your name in the top left hand corner if you are logged in