errors in booklets etc.....

Bubbles · 30 Dec 2006, 18:58

something i noticed quite often recently: errors in the album-booklets!! first i recognised that in my copy of the bat3 booklet and now also in the booklet to the bat2 collectors edition:
quite often they forgot some verses or got them mixed up in the wrong order....or even spelling/wrong word mistakes! for example in objects: "They said he crashed and burned, I swear I'll never learn why any boy should die so young"....... i know i noticed quite a number more while listening to the album but cant recall them right now without looking for them.....anyway, i wonder why do those quite embarrasing (i think) errors for the label happen?!

djfierce · 30 Dec 2006, 19:20

i maybe wrong so i'm sure someone will put me right if so
I think the versions in the booklets are how the songs were originally written but after being written Meat has done his own take on it (ad-libbing and so on), i remember Elton John explaining this reason for the same thing in his booklets. It seems to happen quite alot with various artists. The same might not apply to Meat though.

Moonlight shadow · 30 Dec 2006, 20:49

Is that another error?
In the song:
You can never be too sure about the girls
Meat sing:
You never can be too sure about the girls

samurai7 · 30 Dec 2006, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonlight shadow

Is that another error?
In the song:
You can never be too sure about the girls
Meat sing:
You never can be too sure about the girls

That is an error. On the CD version of MATLAF it's written as 'You Can Never...' but on the Vinyl version from 1983 it's down as 'You Never Can...' which is correct.

Bubbles · 30 Dec 2006, 21:55

mentioning the vinyl-edition: on the vinyl copy of bat1 they simply forgot to print the writing "Songs by Jim steinman" on the cover! unbelievable!

samurai7 · 30 Dec 2006, 22:27

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Originally Posted by Bubbles89

mentioning the vinyl-edition: on the vinyl copy of bat1 they simply forgot to print the writing "Songs by Jim steinman" on the cover! unbelievable!

Not on the UK edition they didn't. It's at the bottom. It was only moved to directly under the title on much later CD re-issues.

Bubbles · 30 Dec 2006, 22:51

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Originally Posted by Son Of Meat Loaf

Not on the UK edition they didn't. It's at the bottom. It was only moved to directly under the title on much later CD re-issues.

uh, we are talking about two totally different editions, sry my fault:
you were talking about the actual vinyl record from 77 and i was referring to a fake vinyl-cd published in 2004 by a magazine in germany...

and i just checked my copy again, jim isn't mentioned on the whole outside cover .......

but back to topic: even if the reason for these faults are the different versions of the songs, the label (or whoever orders the printing of the booklet^^) should make sure to get the right lyrics........singin along with that text? forget it...

MeatGrl1 · 31 Dec 2006, 04:02

djfierce · 31 Dec 2006, 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubbles89

but back to topic: even if the reason for these faults are the different versions of the songs, the label (or whoever orders the printing of the booklet^^) should make sure to get the right lyrics........singin along with that text? forget it...

I agree i have alot of albums from various artists having the same problem, i guess as you get to know the song you adopt the artists take on it (well i do anyway

)
I don't know whether these are sent off to be printed before recording is finalised though.

Kev · 31 Dec 2006, 12:45

You're not going to like this, the other day I got in a shipment of BOOH albums. The standard version, not the one with the dvd. The new pressings of the album cover have removed 'Songs by Jim Steinman'. I was quite shocked to say the least.

**RadioMaster** · 31 Dec 2006, 13:05

such things happen quite often.
The worst thing I ever saw was the booklet of the CD of the first season of teh german "Idol" show. (yell, I was young

) and in nearly every 4th or 5th line was a mistake...
very weird

Jeanie · 01 Jan 2007, 01:28

Here in Canada, the Bat3 cd with dvd is fine, but in the "cd only" version.. 2 whole pages of lyrics are missing, from every booklet.

J.

Blackkat13 · 02 Jan 2007, 04:21

didn't know that one

geordieloaf · 02 Jan 2007, 14:10

I got another copy of the best of, and the song arrangment is different to the original cd.
Anyone know why?

djfierce · 02 Jan 2007, 14:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by geordieloaf

I got another copy of the best of, and the song arrangment is different to the original cd.
Anyone know why?

do you mean in the booklet or the recording?

geordieloaf · 02 Jan 2007, 15:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by djfierce

do you mean in the booklet or the recording?

The songs are in a different order.
Original cd order
cd1
1 home by now
2 lemon
3 took the words
4 two
5 modern
6 rock & roll
7 nothing sacred
8 paradise
9 heaven
cd 2
1 anything for love
2 a kiss
3 i'd lie
4 not a dry eye
5 nocturnal
6 dead ringer
7 midnight
8 objects
9 bat

were as on the new one i got for xmas
cd1
1 bat
2 dead ringer
3 two out of three
4 rock & roll
5 i'd lie
6 modern girl
7 midnight
8 objects
9 lemon

cd2
1 anything for love
2 you took the words
3 heaven
4 not a dry eye
5 paradise
6 a kiss
7 is nothing sacred
8 no matter what
9 nocturnal

Like i say i was just woundering if anyone new the reason for it. I think the one i got at xmas has got the better song order.

djfierce · 02 Jan 2007, 15:25

I can't think of an obvious reason but i agree the ne one does seem to have a better order...just that i believe heaven is an end of album song

geordieloaf · 02 Jan 2007, 15:40

I agree heaven would be better to end the album. Don't suppose it really matter's but i'm glad i got the album as at first i thought i already have it but now at least it's a different version, or maybe i'm just sad?

*AndyK* · 02 Jan 2007, 15:44

Isn't the different order due to the different labels that have releasaed the Best of cd?

Cna't rememebr which way round it is, but I seem to remember that there was a deal struck between Virgin and Sony, one company had the original release and the first couple of years of the release, and then the other company got the rights to future releases and hence changed the song order to appeal to the collectors in us to buy their copy as well ....

geordieloaf · 02 Jan 2007, 15:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyK

Isn't the different order due to the different labels that have releasaed the Best of cd?

Cna't rememebr which way round it is, but I seem to remember that there was a deal struck between Virgin and Sony, one company had the original release and the first couple of years of the release, and then the other company got the rights to future releases and hence changed the song order to appeal to the collectors in us to buy their copy as well ....

You could be right all i can see on the back is the copyright is owned by virgin records/sony music which is the same on both albums.
I would say by changing the song order they figured like you say the collectors would buy it.

**RadioMaster** · 02 Jan 2007, 17:40

We had a long discussion about that some months ago:
The first one you mentioned was the original 1999 release. The otherone is a 2002(2003?) re-release of the album. That one has a different track listing and was shipped with a nice sleeve for the album. I own the second one.
An interesting error in that one is, that the lyrics for Objects are printed twice.

But other people know more about it than I do.

Ma.Ra · 02 Jan 2007, 17:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

We had a long discussion about that some months ago:
The first one you mentioned was the original 1999 release. The otherone is a 2002(2003?) re-release of the album. That one has a different track listing and was shipped with a nice sleeve for the album. I own the second one.
An interesting error in that one is, that the lyrics for Objects are printed twice.

But other people know more about it than I do.

I can testify that.

geordieloaf · 02 Jan 2007, 18:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

We had a long discussion about that some months ago:
The first one you mentioned was the original 1999 release. The otherone is a 2002(2003?) re-release of the album. That one has a different track listing and was shipped with a nice sleeve for the album. I own the second one.
An interesting error in that one is, that the lyrics for Objects are printed twice.

But other people know more about it than I do.

Thanks they must have corrected that as objects is only in once in this one. I thought it might have been already mentioned, thanks for letting me know.

Moonlight shadow · 03 Jan 2007, 18:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Son Of Meat Loaf

That is an error. On the CD version of MATLAF it's written as 'You Can Never...' but on the Vinyl version from 1983 it's down as 'You Never Can...' which is correct.

Thanks for clear it to me.

30 Dec 2006, 18:58	#1
Bubbles Senior Loafer Join Date: 05.05.2006 Location: good ol' Germany, rather westwards Posts: 169	errors in booklets etc..... something i noticed quite often recently: errors in the album-booklets!! first i recognised that in my copy of the bat3 booklet and now also in the booklet to the bat2 collectors edition: quite often they forgot some verses or got them mixed up in the wrong order....or even spelling/wrong word mistakes! for example in objects: "They said he crashed and burned, I swear I'll never learn why any boy should die so young"....... i know i noticed quite a number more while listening to the album but cant recall them right now without looking for them.....anyway, i wonder why do those quite embarrasing (i think) errors for the label happen?!

31 Dec 2006, 13:05	#11
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	such things happen quite often. The worst thing I ever saw was the booklet of the CD of the first season of teh german "Idol" show. (yell, I was young) and in nearly every 4th or 5th line was a mistake... very weird

30 Dec 2006, 19:20	#2
djfierce Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2005 Location: Posts: 3,596	i maybe wrong so i'm sure someone will put me right if so I think the versions in the booklets are how the songs were originally written but after being written Meat has done his own take on it (ad-libbing and so on), i remember Elton John explaining this reason for the same thing in his booklets. It seems to happen quite alot with various artists. The same might not apply to Meat though.

30 Dec 2006, 20:49	#3
Moonlight shadow Super Loafer Join Date: 27.11.2004 Location: Huelva Andalucia Spain Posts: 248	Is that another error? In the song: You can never be too sure about the girls Meat sing: You never can be too sure about the girls

30 Dec 2006, 21:55	#5
Bubbles Senior Loafer Join Date: 05.05.2006 Location: good ol' Germany, rather westwards Posts: 169	mentioning the vinyl-edition: on the vinyl copy of bat1 they simply forgot to print the writing "Songs by Jim steinman" on the cover! unbelievable!

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31 Dec 2006, 12:45	#10
Kev Just Kev Join Date: 01.06.2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,856	You're not going to like this, the other day I got in a shipment of BOOH albums. The standard version, not the one with the dvd. The new pressings of the album cover have removed 'Songs by Jim Steinman'. I was quite shocked to say the least.

01 Jan 2007, 01:28	#12
Jeanie Super Loafer Join Date: 09.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 996	Here in Canada, the Bat3 cd with dvd is fine, but in the "cd only" version.. 2 whole pages of lyrics are missing, from every booklet. J.

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Blackkat13 Mega Loafer Join Date: 30.07.2006 Location: Hell, Michigan Posts: 1,989	didn't know that one

02 Jan 2007, 14:10	#14
geordieloaf Can't You See My Faded Geordie Jeans Bursting Apart Join Date: 25.10.2006 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,360	I got another copy of the best of, and the song arrangment is different to the original cd. Anyone know why?

02 Jan 2007, 15:25	#17
djfierce Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2005 Location: Posts: 3,596	I can't think of an obvious reason but i agree the ne one does seem to have a better order...just that i believe heaven is an end of album song

02 Jan 2007, 15:40	#18
geordieloaf Can't You See My Faded Geordie Jeans Bursting Apart Join Date: 25.10.2006 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,360	I agree heaven would be better to end the album. Don't suppose it really matter's but i'm glad i got the album as at first i thought i already have it but now at least it's a different version, or maybe i'm just sad?

02 Jan 2007, 15:44	#19
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	Isn't the different order due to the different labels that have releasaed the Best of cd? Cna't rememebr which way round it is, but I seem to remember that there was a deal struck between Virgin and Sony, one company had the original release and the first couple of years of the release, and then the other company got the rights to future releases and hence changed the song order to appeal to the collectors in us to buy their copy as well ....

02 Jan 2007, 17:40	#21
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	We had a long discussion about that some months ago: The first one you mentioned was the original 1999 release. The otherone is a 2002(2003?) re-release of the album. That one has a different track listing and was shipped with a nice sleeve for the album. I own the second one. An interesting error in that one is, that the lyrics for Objects are printed twice. But other people know more about it than I do.