Ticket Tout discussion (from e bay thread)

**Ankie** · 14 Mar 2008, 14:29

At least there are (still) no Meat Loaf tickets on Ebay. Which probably means the touts couldnt get their hands on the good seats either. Wasnt it within one hour that .net tickets appeared on there during the ticket sale of the 2007 tours?

**The Flying Mouse** · 14 Mar 2008, 15:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ankie

At least there are (still) no Meat Loaf tickets on Ebay. Which probably means the touts couldnt get their hands on the good seats either. Wasnt it within one hour that .net tickets appeared on there during the ticket sale of the 2007 tours?

Spoke a bit too soon there Ankie

Although this dude must be smoking some real good stuff to be asking these prices per pair for row W

So optimistic it beggars belief

**Monstro** · 14 Mar 2008, 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ankie

At least there are (still) no Meat Loaf tickets on Ebay. Which probably means the touts couldnt get their hands on the good seats either. Wasnt it within one hour that .net tickets appeared on there during the ticket sale of the 2007 tours?

These have been on a couple of days as well

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-tickets-meat...em260220339661

Ain't right is it?

belladonna-took · 14 Mar 2008, 15:57

I gather Ebay is heaving with tix now. Painful itching diseases to all touts!!!

**Ankie** · 14 Mar 2008, 16:07

I use a link to all Meat Loaf related items. The moment I posted there were no tickets on it..... Last year, when people sold their tickets through Ebay, it was mentioned on the left of this page. Hence my post

**Monstro** · 14 Mar 2008, 16:40

What gets me is that Ebay argue that they're providing a service that the ticket companies aren't as in if you can't go to the concert for whatever reason you can sell the tickets instead of losing out when ticketmaster etc won't give you a refund.

This is so obviously touting though when the tix are listed the day they go on sale, THIS should be banned.

I've sold Meat tix on ebay (RAH for one) but I stopped the auction when they reached face value/what I paid for them, that's what the rule should be, sale not to go over face value plus costs. Can't see it happening though, Ebay would lose so much money in fees and Paypal charges.

**Ankie** · 14 Mar 2008, 16:50

Only way to stop this, is if there is a law against it, I am afraid......
Fans are angry, artists become aware of it, but nothing is done.

**The Flying Mouse** · 15 Mar 2008, 12:25

I can't see any end to ticket touting.

The convieniant loophole is the "booking fee".
As there is no legal limit to how much a company is allowed to charge as a booking fee, it's perfectly ok to set up a company and start trading.

Whatever e bay says about the morality of it's attitude concerning touting is BALDERDASH (haven't used that word for ages

).
If e bay believes that ticket touting is wrong, and they are only supplying a service for people who have found they cannot attend an event they have tickets for, why does a link to e bay come up in search results when you look for "ticket touting?

Ticket touting will continue as long as there is a market, and there will always be a market.
It's fine to be adamant that you would not go through a ticket tout because it's against your ethics, but for everyone who won't, there are 100 who will.
The result being that you don't get to go to the concert, someone else does, the ticket tout still gets their money, and the one losing out the most is you.

Something really should be done to prevent these parasites operating.
If e bay was trully serious that they wanted merely to provide a service for people who needed to dump tickets they can't use, it would be easy for them to rule that tickets could only be sold on buy it now auctions that can't exceed the face value.
But with the problem being so wide spred, almost institutionalised, and there being such little done by the authorities, i'm afraid we won't see the back of ticket touts for some time

Battybarb · 17 Mar 2008, 11:20

It should be stopped,but it wont because of one word-GREED

14 Mar 2008, 14:29	#1
Ankie Office manager Join Date: 25.04.2002 Posts: 1,883	Ticket Tout discussion (from e bay thread) At least there are (still) no Meat Loaf tickets on Ebay. Which probably means the touts couldnt get their hands on the good seats either. Wasnt it within one hour that .net tickets appeared on there during the ticket sale of the 2007 tours?

14 Mar 2008, 15:57	#4
belladonna-took Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.09.2007 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 1,137	I gather Ebay is heaving with tix now. Painful itching diseases to all touts!!!

14 Mar 2008, 16:07	#5
Ankie Office manager Join Date: 25.04.2002 Posts: 1,883	I use a link to all Meat Loaf related items. The moment I posted there were no tickets on it..... Last year, when people sold their tickets through Ebay, it was mentioned on the left of this page. Hence my post

14 Mar 2008, 16:40	#6
Monstro Promoted to Wario's spellchecker Join Date: 17.09.2005 Location: London Posts: 12,946	What gets me is that Ebay argue that they're providing a service that the ticket companies aren't as in if you can't go to the concert for whatever reason you can sell the tickets instead of losing out when ticketmaster etc won't give you a refund. This is so obviously touting though when the tix are listed the day they go on sale, THIS should be banned. I've sold Meat tix on ebay (RAH for one) but I stopped the auction when they reached face value/what I paid for them, that's what the rule should be, sale not to go over face value plus costs. Can't see it happening though, Ebay would lose so much money in fees and Paypal charges.

14 Mar 2008, 16:50	#7
Ankie Office manager Join Date: 25.04.2002 Posts: 1,883	Only way to stop this, is if there is a law against it, I am afraid...... Fans are angry, artists become aware of it, but nothing is done.

15 Mar 2008, 12:25	#8
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	I can't see any end to ticket touting. The convieniant loophole is the "booking fee". As there is no legal limit to how much a company is allowed to charge as a booking fee, it's perfectly ok to set up a company and start trading. Whatever e bay says about the morality of it's attitude concerning touting is BALDERDASH (haven't used that word for ages ). If e bay believes that ticket touting is wrong, and they are only supplying a service for people who have found they cannot attend an event they have tickets for, why does a link to e bay come up in search results when you look for "ticket touting? Ticket touting will continue as long as there is a market, and there will always be a market. It's fine to be adamant that you would not go through a ticket tout because it's against your ethics, but for everyone who won't, there are 100 who will. The result being that you don't get to go to the concert, someone else does, the ticket tout still gets their money, and the one losing out the most is you. Something really should be done to prevent these parasites operating. If e bay was trully serious that they wanted merely to provide a service for people who needed to dump tickets they can't use, it would be easy for them to rule that tickets could only be sold on buy it now auctions that can't exceed the face value. But with the problem being so wide spred, almost institutionalised, and there being such little done by the authorities, i'm afraid we won't see the back of ticket touts for some time

17 Mar 2008, 11:20	#9
Battybarb Nutty Tart From Hell Join Date: 25.05.2007 Location: liverpool Posts: 8,390	It should be stopped,but it wont because of one word-GREED