79. Tear Me Down

White of High · 08 Jul 2003, 21:15

This is the START OUT OF HELL & ARRIVE TO HEAVEN topic.
Let's Go to Rock 'n' Roll!!!!!!

Tear Me Down (7)

This song is a cover of an Hedwig & The Angry Inch song. You can find some differences between the lines. I have to say the Hedwig version is a little bit better cause Meat's voice is very raw. The melody is good but I don't like the speech in the middle of the song. Hey Meat! Are you an exhibition?

I think Meat has sholud covered Wig In A Box by Hedwig cause that is so much better...

My score: 7

Average: 8.61 (163.5/19)

Taipan · 08 Jul 2003, 21:24

not sure about this one...the speech in the middle, whilst amusing to meat's existing fans, doesn't really do much for anyone else...it comes across as being a bit self-promotional. other than that, i really enjoy the song.

so, 8/10 for the song, deduct 2 for the speaking...

6/10

mariella · 08 Jul 2003, 21:35

Really like to play this song VERY loud. Reminds me of the first time I heard it at Hyde Park. My first concert.
A song that can really 'lift me up' when I am not feeling to good.
And make me feel 'even better', when I am feeling good!

Great song, not too crazy about the 'speaking-part', but that is 'fun' on stage.

8,5/10

Mariella

Cathie · 08 Jul 2003, 22:16

I think that the song itself is good but i don't like the speaking part, it makes the song sound like an advert. I'd rather hear Meat sing than the woman talk. Meat, of course, sounds great.
7/10

Michel · 08 Jul 2003, 22:42

Great song. I absolutely like this one. Great melody and great tekst. The spoken part is funny.

My score: 8/9

Testify · 08 Jul 2003, 23:31

8/10. i like it. simple as that

Tim · 08 Jul 2003, 23:36

isn't it more euh... how do you say it..... isn't it better to wait a while to rate these songs, cause the album is only in stores for a couple of months.... so.... just my humble no commentary advice???

Tim

Evan · 09 Jul 2003, 01:30

This is an average song. I consider it to be better then anything else on "Couldn't Have Said It Better" however. John Cameron Mitchell's (Hedwig) version is much better and musically there's no comparison between the too, JCM's has much more of a punk rock live concert vibe to it, while I find Meat's version very complicated musically, especially coming out of the monologue. Also, I'll add that JCM's version has the chorus of "enemies and adversaries, they try and tear me down" while Meat's for some reason changed to the dreadful "and I'm easy and I'm serious" which just sounds ridiculous. I don't mind that Steve Trask changed the song to fit it to Meat's story, but changing the chorus ruined it for me.

6/10
Just for the record, I give JCM's version 10/10.

Puritan · 09 Jul 2003, 12:28

Well I have never heard the original Hedwig & The Angry Inch version - if I had perhaps I would feel differently

I think this is a great song performed live - I saw it last summer in Hyde Park and Cardiff and was very impressed. The spoken part was perfect for a live performance when the crowd is pumped up.

Must admit that the studio version does not quite have the same impact and I can understand some of the above comments about the spoken part in that context.

However I still think it is one of the better tracks on the album. I give it 8 out of 10

Crystal Eyes · 09 Jul 2003, 14:40

Never heard the Hedwig version so i can't compare.
Meat loaf's version is great though and I like the speaking part. I almost always feel like playing it.
My score 9/10

Em · 09 Jul 2003, 18:20

Not keen on the version on the cd. Liked it much better when he performed it on the janice long show on radio 2 perhaps its' better live.
Really like the first part but do not like the spoken bit, in fact I find the voice of the speaker irritating and now I usually skip this bit.

Quote:

Also, I'll add that JCM's version has the chorus of "enemies and adversaries, they try and tear me down" while Meat's for some reason changed to the dreadful "and I'm easy and I'm serious" which just sounds ridiculous

I agree with this, the original words make much more sense.

7/10 for the first bit and 1/10 for the spoken bit so that makes 4/10 for the whole song.

Bren · 10 Jul 2003, 15:38

This was good performed live at Hyde Park, but when listening to the Cd I find myself wanting to skip the spoken part.personal thing ,i hate songs that have spoken parts to them.I don't mind poetry /verse,included as in Left in the dark, Took the words...that's fine,but this!!!Does not appeal at all. The rest off the song is fine.

Bren

Michel · 10 Jul 2003, 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim

isn't it more euh... how do you say it..... isn't it better to wait a while to rate these songs, cause the album is only in stores for a couple of months.... so.... just my humble no commentary advice???

Tim

That's the reason why I put a question in the topic "The Standing", Tim.

Vickip · 11 Jul 2003, 02:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal Eyes

Meat loaf's version is great though and I like the speaking part. I almost always feel like playing it.
My score 9/10

I definitely agree with you Crystal Eyes :)
I really enjoy the CD version .... but it's really fantastic live ! I got hooked on it when I first heard him sing it at the Allentown State fair in Pennsylvania last year

My score : 9/10 (CD) 10/10 (Live)

Vicki

Shane · 12 Jul 2003, 03:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan

This is an average song. I consider it to be better then anything else on "Couldn't Have Said It Better" however. John Cameron Mitchell's (Hedwig) version is much better and musically there's no comparison between the too, JCM's has much more of a punk rock live concert vibe to it, while I find Meat's version very complicated musically, especially coming out of the monologue. Also, I'll add that JCM's version has the chorus of "enemies and adversaries, they try and tear me down" while Meat's for some reason changed to the dreadful "and I'm easy and I'm serious" which just sounds ridiculous. I don't mind that Steve Trask changed the song to fit it to Meat's story, but changing the chorus ruined it for me.

6/10
Just for the record, I give JCM's version 10/10.

I listened to the Hedwig version a couple of days ago. I prefer the guitars on the original, but otherwise I prefer Meat's version.

dottie · 16 Jul 2003, 19:33

Definetly one for a live performance - 8/10

Wild_Honey · 17 Jul 2003, 12:21

10/10

heat · 18 Jul 2003, 03:21

I really like this one - 8/10

Jayd · 18 Jul 2003, 14:22

Great song and I like the spoken part. How is it advertising when you have already got the album, listen to the story of it.10/10

Terri · 18 Jul 2003, 15:29

A bit predictable is me......like I've said before I like all the tracks on CHSIB album. Perhaps some slightly more than others.
This one I love, the spoken part especially!
I agree with the others tho' this would be great live!

10/10

evil nickname · 19 Jul 2003, 21:11

I really like the message in the song, most evidently expressed in the chorus:

"I'm easy and I'm serious-
They try and tear me down!
You want me, baby, I dare you:
Try and tear me down"

Kinda "no matter what is going on, I'll be standing strong, and if you want a piece of me -- come and get it", but then with better words.
The spoken part in the middle, well, I like the tongue-in-cheekiness of the last part ("Yeah, everything from Texas is big...") but on the other hand it doen't do much for me. Either way, it's fine with me.
Musically, is a decent rocksong. I could agree on the live-vibe this song has... but then again, I've only witnessed this song once live, in a not so great performance, so I couldn't make judgement on that.

On a side note: I like it better than the Hedwig version, mostly on behalf of the vocals. That guy needs to shut up, or at least, I think he should.

Overall: not too bad... 7.5/10

Quigmo · 25 Oct 2003, 13:46

This is the song I remember from the "having fun for the summer" tour and then again on the last tour. Now that I've heard the album version it ranks a full 10/10 I love this song. You tell 'em Meat!

RSG · 07 Nov 2003, 00:24

Great song, man is it ever great. Fun really loud, and I enjoy the woman's part in the song. No one can tear this man. I personally love this one more than Hedwig's, I'd give is an 8.5 at the most. and Meat's a 9.5.

LostSoul · 28 Dec 2003, 07:59

I do like the spoken part and I do like this song.
It's like an extension to "Testify"...

I'm looking forward to listening to it live!

7/10

BadAttitude · 28 Dec 2003, 08:19

Lostsoul I agree with you on your evaluation of this one.

I also give it a 7/10

08 Jul 2003, 21:15	#1
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	79. Tear Me Down This is the START OUT OF HELL & ARRIVE TO HEAVEN topic. Let's Go to Rock 'n' Roll!!!!!! Tear Me Down (7) This song is a cover of an Hedwig & The Angry Inch song. You can find some differences between the lines. I have to say the Hedwig version is a little bit better cause Meat's voice is very raw. The melody is good but I don't like the speech in the middle of the song. Hey Meat! Are you an exhibition? I think Meat has sholud covered Wig In A Box by Hedwig cause that is so much better... My score: 7 Average: 8.61 (163.5/19)

08 Jul 2003, 21:24	#2
Taipan Junior Loafer Join Date: 25.08.2002 Location: UK Posts: 38	not sure about this one...the speech in the middle, whilst amusing to meat's existing fans, doesn't really do much for anyone else...it comes across as being a bit self-promotional. other than that, i really enjoy the song. so, 8/10 for the song, deduct 2 for the speaking... 6/10

08 Jul 2003, 21:35	#3
mariella Mega Loafer Join Date: 04.02.2003 Location: Holland Posts: 4,063	Really like to play this song VERY loud. Reminds me of the first time I heard it at Hyde Park. My first concert. A song that can really 'lift me up' when I am not feeling to good. And make me feel 'even better', when I am feeling good! Great song, not too crazy about the 'speaking-part', but that is 'fun' on stage. 8,5/10 Mariella

08 Jul 2003, 22:16	#4
Cathie Sweet But Sadistic Join Date: 18.06.2003 Location: Lincolnshire/Essex depending on the time of year! Posts: 4,098	I think that the song itself is good but i don't like the speaking part, it makes the song sound like an advert. I'd rather hear Meat sing than the woman talk. Meat, of course, sounds great. 7/10

08 Jul 2003, 22:42	#5
Michel Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Stadskanaal, The Netherlands Posts: 1,631	Great song. I absolutely like this one. Great melody and great tekst. The spoken part is funny. My score: 8/9

08 Jul 2003, 23:31	#6
Testify ragamuffin Join Date: 21.05.2003 Location: xxx daydreaming xxx Posts: 5,023	8/10. i like it. simple as that

08 Jul 2003, 23:36	#7
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	isn't it more euh... how do you say it..... isn't it better to wait a while to rate these songs, cause the album is only in stores for a couple of months.... so.... just my humble no commentary advice??? Tim

09 Jul 2003, 01:30	#8
Evan Super Loafer Join Date: 03.07.2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 216	This is an average song. I consider it to be better then anything else on "Couldn't Have Said It Better" however. John Cameron Mitchell's (Hedwig) version is much better and musically there's no comparison between the too, JCM's has much more of a punk rock live concert vibe to it, while I find Meat's version very complicated musically, especially coming out of the monologue. Also, I'll add that JCM's version has the chorus of "enemies and adversaries, they try and tear me down" while Meat's for some reason changed to the dreadful "and I'm easy and I'm serious" which just sounds ridiculous. I don't mind that Steve Trask changed the song to fit it to Meat's story, but changing the chorus ruined it for me. 6/10 Just for the record, I give JCM's version 10/10.

09 Jul 2003, 12:28	#9
Puritan Super Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Banbury, United Kingdom Posts: 350	Well I have never heard the original Hedwig & The Angry Inch version - if I had perhaps I would feel differently I think this is a great song performed live - I saw it last summer in Hyde Park and Cardiff and was very impressed. The spoken part was perfect for a live performance when the crowd is pumped up. Must admit that the studio version does not quite have the same impact and I can understand some of the above comments about the spoken part in that context. However I still think it is one of the better tracks on the album. I give it 8 out of 10

09 Jul 2003, 14:40	#10
Crystal Eyes Super Loafer Join Date: 09.07.2003 Location: In the clouds Posts: 649	Never heard the Hedwig version so i can't compare. Meat loaf's version is great though and I like the speaking part. I almost always feel like playing it. My score 9/10

10 Jul 2003, 15:38	#12
Bren The Bat Join Date: 23.03.2003 Location: Roosting on a Silver-Black Phantom Bike. Posts: 10,017	This was good performed live at Hyde Park, but when listening to the Cd I find myself wanting to skip the spoken part.personal thing ,i hate songs that have spoken parts to them.I don't mind poetry /verse,included as in Left in the dark, Took the words...that's fine,but this!!!Does not appeal at all. The rest off the song is fine. Bren

16 Jul 2003, 19:33	#16
dottie queen post- whore extraordinaire Join Date: 29.01.2003 Location: Still Rockin' at "72" Posts: 13,181	Definetly one for a live performance - 8/10

17 Jul 2003, 12:21	#17
Wild_Honey Super Loafer Join Date: 23.03.2003 Location: Windeck, Germany Posts: 606	10/10

18 Jul 2003, 03:21	#18
heat Rampant Loafer... Join Date: 29.07.2002 Location: welshy wales Posts: 5,706	I really like this one - 8/10

18 Jul 2003, 14:22	#19
Jayd If I could bust into hell....... I would Join Date: 13.06.2003 Location: Montclair, New Jersey Posts: 1,312	Great song and I like the spoken part. How is it advertising when you have already got the album, listen to the story of it.10/10

18 Jul 2003, 15:29	#20
Terri Super T Join Date: 14.05.2003 Posts: 1,235	A bit predictable is me......like I've said before I like all the tracks on CHSIB album. Perhaps some slightly more than others. This one I love, the spoken part especially! I agree with the others tho' this would be great live! 10/10

19 Jul 2003, 21:11	#21
evil nickname Guest Join Date: 19.04.2003 Posts: 2,238	I really like the message in the song, most evidently expressed in the chorus: "I'm easy and I'm serious- They try and tear me down! You want me, baby, I dare you: Try and tear me down" Kinda "no matter what is going on, I'll be standing strong, and if you want a piece of me -- come and get it", but then with better words. The spoken part in the middle, well, I like the tongue-in-cheekiness of the last part ("Yeah, everything from Texas is big...") but on the other hand it doen't do much for me. Either way, it's fine with me. Musically, is a decent rocksong. I could agree on the live-vibe this song has... but then again, I've only witnessed this song once live, in a not so great performance, so I couldn't make judgement on that. On a side note: I like it better than the Hedwig version, mostly on behalf of the vocals. That guy needs to shut up, or at least, I think he should. Overall: not too bad... 7.5/10

25 Oct 2003, 13:46	#22
Quigmo Senior Loafer Join Date: 08.08.2003 Location: Nor Cal USA Posts: 111	This is the song I remember from the "having fun for the summer" tour and then again on the last tour. Now that I've heard the album version it ranks a full 10/10 I love this song. You tell 'em Meat!

07 Nov 2003, 00:24	#23
RSG Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	Great song, man is it ever great. Fun really loud, and I enjoy the woman's part in the song. No one can tear this man. I personally love this one more than Hedwig's, I'd give is an 8.5 at the most. and Meat's a 9.5.

28 Dec 2003, 07:59	#24
LostSoul Got metal? Join Date: 06.11.2003 Location: Switzerland Posts: 2,109	I do like the spoken part and I do like this song. It's like an extension to "Testify"... I'm looking forward to listening to it live! 7/10

28 Dec 2003, 08:19	#25
BadAttitude Super Loafer Join Date: 19.11.2003 Location: Florida Posts: 482	Lostsoul I agree with you on your evaluation of this one. I also give it a 7/10