51. Objects In The Rear View Mirror May Appear Closer...

White of High · 16 Feb 2003, 12:47

This is the START OUT OF HELL & ARRIVE TO HEAVEN topic.
Let's Go to Rock 'n' Roll!!!!!!!

Objects In The Rear View Mirror May Appear Closer Than They Are (10)

Can I say anything?

My score: 10

Average: 9.84 (226.25/23)

Tim · 16 Feb 2003, 16:08

I have got mixed feelings with this song. Don't know what it is. It is a great song, but on the other side it just isn't.

8.5/10

White of High · 16 Feb 2003, 16:15

Tim!

Why? What is the other side?

Tim · 16 Feb 2003, 16:51

It is powerfull, great lyrics, beautifull, but the other side is that it is empty, nothing......... Think you will have to listen to this song when you are in a special mood orso.

Michel · 16 Feb 2003, 17:13

An amazing song, one of the best songs from this (like most songs from this album). Great lyrics, powerfull music.

Jim Steinman's best song he has ever written! I think one of the best song Jim has ever written

My score: 9

Bart · 17 Feb 2003, 11:15

this song is difficult to listen to. It doesn't make me happy. That's why you have to be in a specific mood for it. For example, if you feel f... happy, you're not gonna listen to this song. If you feel very sad: yóu're not gonna listen to this song. So, in one way or the other Tim is right about that.
Anyway, it's still one of the best. 9,5/10.

White of High · 17 Feb 2003, 12:04

I think the "Live Around The World" version is very nice. I love the end with deep feeling. Very slow and it's great!

Tim!
You mean it for example "Man And A Woman" is better than "Objects"?

Michel · 17 Feb 2003, 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by White of High

I think the "Live Around The World" version is very nice. I love the end with deep feeling. Very slow and it's great!

Tim!
You mean it for example "Man And A Woman" is better than "Objects"?

I don't hope he means that!

Tim · 17 Feb 2003, 12:54

Well......do you want a real discussion about this song???

Man and Woman is a great song. Don't know what is wrong with that song. Objects is a beautifull song, but so different. Man and Woman is a love song. Objects is a song about abuse, dead, friendship and power. Different themes. Also it is written by other writers so.....

Don't think you can compare those 2 with each other.

Garrett · 17 Feb 2003, 15:07

My opinion is, that "Objects" has one of the greatest lyrics ever. I've already said in the "Sunshine" thread, that Meat is really good in singing sad songs and so it is. When I listen Meat singing this great, powerful ballad, it seems to me, that the things he sings about, were his own experiences. Things, which happened once in his own youth. There are three seperate strokes of fate in this song. The first is the death of his best friend, who died in an accident. Then, the second is about his uncaring father, who is addicted to alcohol and is terrorising his family. And the third stroke of fate is about a girl, his first love. She was the sense of his life, but then, suddenly she disappeared. I've never heard someone before, who can sing the lyrics of a song so deeply, as if it also could be a story of his own life. And Jim has composed such a great melody. If "Objects" were without the lyrics, only the melody, you could also recognize the things the song is about. Even without the lyrics, you can hear the words, the music is whispering to you. You can't compare another song with "Objects In The Rear View Mirror". This song is an unicate!

10+/10

Anonymous · 17 Feb 2003, 15:25

I think Objects isn't so much about the different particular experiences he refers to but rather about being haunted by formative experiences in general, not being able to escape them. Living in the past instead of shaping the future.Those events all happened in the past and should be left there, while you move on, but you can't tear lose of them, they always come back to trouble you.
This is a song in the vein of A Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste IMO.

-Macar

White of High · 17 Feb 2003, 19:10

I have seen the autobiographic film and there wasn't Kenny! Who was he?

Michel · 17 Feb 2003, 21:21

Man And A Woman a beautiful song???? I think it is the WORST song ever been sung by Meat. Objects one of the bests. So I need to agree, you can't compare them.

MeatBall · 18 Feb 2003, 04:01

Great song 11/10

Anonymous · 18 Feb 2003, 17:26

Does anyone have the piano sheet music for this great song?

**The Flying Mouse** · 12 Mar 2003, 17:04

Great song.
What can I say?The music and lyrics are fantastic.
Meat's voice is great.I love the way that Meat is singing like he's telling a story.Then the music gets faster and Meat's voice gets higher as the memories come flooding back with more urgency.
Just thinking of this song gives me shivers.
9/10 Memorable.

Michel · 12 Mar 2003, 21:43

I think the video of this song, is the best of Meat's video's.

White of High · 12 Mar 2003, 21:55

Michel!
I have to agree with you!
Tears come out...

**The Flying Mouse** · 12 Mar 2003, 22:07

Michael Bay did a great job

.
I especially like the ghost plane.

**Ankie** · 12 Mar 2003, 23:23

Do not remember where or when, but I do remember that either Meat or Jim told in an interview (I have somewhere on tape) that they didn't want to release the album, because it didn't feel finished. Then Jim did write Objects in the Rear View Mirror and they felt that is was completed.
According to Jim it was the toughest song he had ever written.
Like most of Jim's songs this one is so about deep emotions and make you think about life. Because everyone has had situations like that and has to face life with those memories that sometimes seem to rule how you do and feel.
To me it showed that I don't have to forget the past, but that I may look forward without the pressure of fears from my younger years.

"So many wasted years before my life became my own!"

Thanks Jim for writing and Meat singing those great songs which pulled my through and made me the person who I am today.

Ankie.

R. · 12 Mar 2003, 23:54

I'm not going to rate this song, but this particular one was - long ago - the 'hook' for me to get more into BatII.
Today - I'm here as your host.

Crazy - as time goes by - I do remember discovering the BatII CD in my mailbox (what completely surprised me

) on release day.
But that's a different story. Completely different.

R.

Bart · 16 Mar 2003, 22:21

yeah, that is true. Everybody just wantedto release the record except Jim. He insisted to write another song. The release dat was postponed by a year and Virging did not like Bat II no more!! Too much money they spent on it.
Anyway this song is an epic song. It is not autobiographic. Not any song of Meat and/or Jim is autobiographic. This song is about someones live. He looks back in the past. Now he is old(er) and wise and looks back at his youth. That's all. The new songs on Bat II have this themes (Life is a Lemon/ Everything louder).

Michel · 17 Mar 2003, 10:47

It is also difficult to get the meaning of this song. But I know the meaning is just in the title.

Tim · 17 Mar 2003, 11:36

Think i've to agree with the posts before me. It is a strange song. I don't want to rate it, cause my opion is diferent each time i listen to it. Sometimes it is a great song, but sometimes i just hate the song!! Don't know what it is, maybe it is a bit of the truth that lies in it.

Bart · 17 Mar 2003, 12:48

it is not a strange song. it is about the struggle of life. it is an epic song. Just try to read what i wrote, guys!
bat I is about youth, bat II looks back to it!

16 Feb 2003, 12:47	#1
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	51. Objects In The Rear View Mirror May Appear Closer... This is the START OUT OF HELL & ARRIVE TO HEAVEN topic. Let's Go to Rock 'n' Roll!!!!!!! Objects In The Rear View Mirror May Appear Closer Than They Are (10) Can I say anything? My score: 10 Average: 9.84 (226.25/23)

17 Feb 2003, 11:15	#6
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	to Tim this song is difficult to listen to. It doesn't make me happy. That's why you have to be in a specific mood for it. For example, if you feel f... happy, you're not gonna listen to this song. If you feel very sad: yóu're not gonna listen to this song. So, in one way or the other Tim is right about that. Anyway, it's still one of the best. 9,5/10.

18 Feb 2003, 17:26	#15
Anonymous Guest Post Container Join Date: 02.04.2002 Posts: 496	OITRVMMACTTA Does anyone have the piano sheet music for this great song?

16 Feb 2003, 16:08	#2
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	I have got mixed feelings with this song. Don't know what it is. It is a great song, but on the other side it just isn't. 8.5/10

16 Feb 2003, 16:15	#3
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	Tim! Why? What is the other side?

16 Feb 2003, 16:51	#4
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	It is powerfull, great lyrics, beautifull, but the other side is that it is empty, nothing......... Think you will have to listen to this song when you are in a special mood orso.

16 Feb 2003, 17:13	#5
Michel Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Stadskanaal, The Netherlands Posts: 1,631	An amazing song, one of the best songs from this (like most songs from this album). Great lyrics, powerfull music. Jim Steinman's best song he has ever written! I think one of the best song Jim has ever written My score: 9

17 Feb 2003, 12:04	#7
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	I think the "Live Around The World" version is very nice. I love the end with deep feeling. Very slow and it's great! Tim! You mean it for example "Man And A Woman" is better than "Objects"?

17 Feb 2003, 12:54	#9
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	Well......do you want a real discussion about this song??? Man and Woman is a great song. Don't know what is wrong with that song. Objects is a beautifull song, but so different. Man and Woman is a love song. Objects is a song about abuse, dead, friendship and power. Different themes. Also it is written by other writers so..... Don't think you can compare those 2 with each other.

17 Feb 2003, 15:07	#10
Garrett Super Loafer Join Date: 30.05.2002 Location: In the room at the top Posts: 291	My opinion is, that "Objects" has one of the greatest lyrics ever. I've already said in the "Sunshine" thread, that Meat is really good in singing sad songs and so it is. When I listen Meat singing this great, powerful ballad, it seems to me, that the things he sings about, were his own experiences. Things, which happened once in his own youth. There are three seperate strokes of fate in this song. The first is the death of his best friend, who died in an accident. Then, the second is about his uncaring father, who is addicted to alcohol and is terrorising his family. And the third stroke of fate is about a girl, his first love. She was the sense of his life, but then, suddenly she disappeared. I've never heard someone before, who can sing the lyrics of a song so deeply, as if it also could be a story of his own life. And Jim has composed such a great melody. If "Objects" were without the lyrics, only the melody, you could also recognize the things the song is about. Even without the lyrics, you can hear the words, the music is whispering to you. You can't compare another song with "Objects In The Rear View Mirror". This song is an unicate! 10+/10

17 Feb 2003, 15:25	#11
Anonymous Guest Post Container Join Date: 02.04.2002 Posts: 496	I think Objects isn't so much about the different particular experiences he refers to but rather about being haunted by formative experiences in general, not being able to escape them. Living in the past instead of shaping the future.Those events all happened in the past and should be left there, while you move on, but you can't tear lose of them, they always come back to trouble you. This is a song in the vein of A Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste IMO. -Macar

17 Feb 2003, 19:10	#12
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	I have seen the autobiographic film and there wasn't Kenny! Who was he?

17 Feb 2003, 21:21	#13
Michel Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Stadskanaal, The Netherlands Posts: 1,631	Man And A Woman a beautiful song???? I think it is the WORST song ever been sung by Meat. Objects one of the bests. So I need to agree, you can't compare them.

18 Feb 2003, 04:01	#14
MeatBall Loafer Join Date: 29.01.2003 Location: Helsingborg, Sweden Posts: 66	Great song 11/10

12 Mar 2003, 17:04	#16
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Great song. What can I say?The music and lyrics are fantastic. Meat's voice is great.I love the way that Meat is singing like he's telling a story.Then the music gets faster and Meat's voice gets higher as the memories come flooding back with more urgency. Just thinking of this song gives me shivers. 9/10 Memorable.

12 Mar 2003, 21:43	#17
Michel Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Stadskanaal, The Netherlands Posts: 1,631	I think the video of this song, is the best of Meat's video's.

12 Mar 2003, 21:55	#18
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	Michel! I have to agree with you! Tears come out...

12 Mar 2003, 22:07	#19
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Michael Bay did a great job . I especially like the ghost plane.

12 Mar 2003, 23:23	#20
Ankie Office manager Join Date: 25.04.2002 Posts: 1,883	Do not remember where or when, but I do remember that either Meat or Jim told in an interview (I have somewhere on tape) that they didn't want to release the album, because it didn't feel finished. Then Jim did write Objects in the Rear View Mirror and they felt that is was completed. According to Jim it was the toughest song he had ever written. Like most of Jim's songs this one is so about deep emotions and make you think about life. Because everyone has had situations like that and has to face life with those memories that sometimes seem to rule how you do and feel. To me it showed that I don't have to forget the past, but that I may look forward without the pressure of fears from my younger years. "So many wasted years before my life became my own!" Thanks Jim for writing and Meat singing those great songs which pulled my through and made me the person who I am today. Ankie.

12 Mar 2003, 23:54	#21
R. You dig. Join Date: 02.04.2002 Location: On the fothermucker Posts: 7,179	I'm not going to rate this song, but this particular one was - long ago - the 'hook' for me to get more into BatII. Today - I'm here as your host. Crazy - as time goes by - I do remember discovering the BatII CD in my mailbox (what completely surprised me ) on release day. But that's a different story. Completely different. R.

16 Mar 2003, 22:21	#22
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	yeah, that is true. Everybody just wantedto release the record except Jim. He insisted to write another song. The release dat was postponed by a year and Virging did not like Bat II no more!! Too much money they spent on it. Anyway this song is an epic song. It is not autobiographic. Not any song of Meat and/or Jim is autobiographic. This song is about someones live. He looks back in the past. Now he is old(er) and wise and looks back at his youth. That's all. The new songs on Bat II have this themes (Life is a Lemon/ Everything louder).

17 Mar 2003, 10:47	#23
Michel Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Stadskanaal, The Netherlands Posts: 1,631	It is also difficult to get the meaning of this song. But I know the meaning is just in the title.

17 Mar 2003, 11:36	#24
Tim The Butcher Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Westervoort, The Netherlands Posts: 10,321	Think i've to agree with the posts before me. It is a strange song. I don't want to rate it, cause my opion is diferent each time i listen to it. Sometimes it is a great song, but sometimes i just hate the song!! Don't know what it is, maybe it is a bit of the truth that lies in it.

17 Mar 2003, 12:48	#25
Bart Bald Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.03.2003 Location: Holland, but I prefer Greece Posts: 2,243	it is not a strange song. it is about the struggle of life. it is an epic song. Just try to read what i wrote, guys! bat I is about youth, bat II looks back to it!