98. Cry To Heaven

White of High · 22 Dec 2006, 21:21

This is the START OUT OF HELL & ARRIVE TO HEAVEN topic.
Let's Go to Rock 'n' Roll!!!!!!!

Cry To Heaven (4)

A bad Angels Arise cover. Cry To Heaven demo from Batman is so much better. It's able to be the second Lost Boys And Golden Girls but it's not. The lyrics is nothing, the orchestra is nothing, this epiloge is nothing.

My score: 4

**RadioMaster** · 23 Dec 2006, 00:11

the worst bat song ever, if you even call it so!:

2 / 10

dunno why they didnt made anything better out of the great stuff that this song cries out to be!

Lord Kagan · 23 Dec 2006, 00:15

Worst song on album 1/10

sunneke · 23 Dec 2006, 00:46

i love it! 8/10

djfierce · 23 Dec 2006, 01:49

oknot the best song on the album but i think it's cute

7

geordieloaf · 23 Dec 2006, 01:53

Can't get into it.
4/10

mszee · 23 Dec 2006, 02:03

Didn't get it at first but can identify with it now...

7/10

duke knooby · 23 Dec 2006, 03:56

what a load of ****, why pinch this song from the stenman catalogue???? 4

Blackkat13 · 23 Dec 2006, 06:26

4/10

robgomm · 26 Dec 2006, 20:57

Hate to say it but have to agree with everyone here. Couldn't understand why it was on the album, I understand that on most previous albums there has been a nice gentle ballad to finish off but this is not a good choice for a finishing song. They should have cut this and finished with the future, or found a better gentle ballad that lasts more than 2 minutes.

5 out of 10, afraid to say definately the poorest song on any Meatloaf album.

White of High · 02 Jan 2007, 23:53

Average: 4.60 (46/10)

Rockette · 03 Jan 2007, 00:05

It's a nice little song that takes some getting used to. Don't care if it's not popular with lots of others ~ I like it. 7/10

Evil One · 21 Jan 2007, 15:14

3

evil nickname · 21 Jan 2007, 22:25

The demo is better. The irish flute and that last not annoy the hell out of me.

5

samurai7 · 22 Jan 2007, 17:37

I like this one. 8

LostSoul · 03 Jul 2007, 14:55

Future should be the last one on the album.

4/10

florence75015 · 30 Aug 2009, 16:50

A beautiful song in my opinion, completely apart from the rest of the album.
Both soft and sad, sadness being enhanced by the notes of Irish flute and once more by Meat's interpretation (I don't only mean singing).

And Meat's voice on the last note is absolutely amazing, powerful and upsetting. He proves here that, even if the album is recorded in 2006, he still is and will always remain the best singer ever.

10/10

glockenspiel · 30 Aug 2009, 17:44

Don't understand why some people hate this so much. It is short and bittersweet, and ends on a big long 'hell!'. Job done.

**RadioMaster** · 30 Aug 2009, 18:18

Have you heard the original 'Angels Arise' demo? There's so much potential in it, that it could have become the best song on the album, but that potential was completely wasted.

Go listen to Angels Arise/Graveyard shift, you wont regret it!

florence75015 · 30 Aug 2009, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

Have you heard the original 'Angels Arise' demo? There's so much potential in it, that it could have become the best song on the album, but that potential was completely wasted.

Go listen to Angels Arise/Graveyard shift, you wont regret it!

I've never listened to that demo. Where could I find it?
Thanks for your answer

Florence

**RadioMaster** · 30 Aug 2009, 20:19

Here is the link to the Batman Musical page, one of the fans over at the Steinman board created. Among a lot of other stuff you can listen to all the demos Mr Steinman gave us on there.

florence75015 · 30 Aug 2009, 21:16

Thanks a lot for the link, I didn't know this site at all.
I've listened to the demo and you're right, it's a beautiful version. But when I compare both of them, I think that Meat's version is way better.

I can't find in the singer's voice the emotion that I hear in Meat's and his voice is also much more powerful.

It's always difficult to express why a singer moves you more than another, but when I listen to "Cry To Heaven", I feel that particular emotion that made me love Meat's songs and see him totally different from others.

Florence

**RadioMaster** · 30 Aug 2009, 22:08

Well, as it is most of the time with steinman songs, you really have to listen to them a few times before you really get into it. It's a very long and complex song, but over the time I've acknowlegded it as one of Jim's best compositions.

And I disagree, I think it is much more emotional than CTH, only that the emotion builds up over a long time, and you have to have the patience to listen to the whole song a few times before you really get it. That's my opinion anyway.

florence75015 · 31 Aug 2009, 03:03

I understand your point of view. As far as feelings are concerned, I guess that everybody has his own way to react.
If I have to be touched by one of Meat's songs, I'm usually moved at once.

**RadioMaster** · 31 Aug 2009, 09:59

everybody cant have the same taste, that's what makes discussions like this fun!

22 Dec 2006, 21:21	#1
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	98. Cry To Heaven This is the START OUT OF HELL & ARRIVE TO HEAVEN topic. Let's Go to Rock 'n' Roll!!!!!!! Cry To Heaven (4) A bad Angels Arise cover. Cry To Heaven demo from Batman is so much better. It's able to be the second Lost Boys And Golden Girls but it's not. The lyrics is nothing, the orchestra is nothing, this epiloge is nothing. My score: 4

23 Dec 2006, 00:11	#2
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	the worst bat song ever, if you even call it so!: 2 / 10 dunno why they didnt made anything better out of the great stuff that this song cries out to be!

23 Dec 2006, 00:15	#3
Lord Kagan On the other hand, You have different fingers Join Date: 17.05.2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 8,833	Worst song on album 1/10

23 Dec 2006, 00:46	#4
sunneke Mega Loafer Join Date: 17.01.2006 Location: Amersfoort Posts: 2,263	i love it! 8/10

23 Dec 2006, 01:49	#5
djfierce Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2005 Location: Posts: 3,596	oknot the best song on the album but i think it's cute 7

23 Dec 2006, 01:53	#6
geordieloaf Can't You See My Faded Geordie Jeans Bursting Apart Join Date: 25.10.2006 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,360	Can't get into it. 4/10

23 Dec 2006, 02:03	#7
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 29.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	Didn't get it at first but can identify with it now... 7/10

23 Dec 2006, 03:56	#8
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,884	what a load of ****, why pinch this song from the stenman catalogue???? 4

23 Dec 2006, 06:26	#9
Blackkat13 Mega Loafer Join Date: 30.07.2006 Location: Hell, Michigan Posts: 1,989	4/10

26 Dec 2006, 20:57	#10
robgomm Mega Loafer Join Date: 22.10.2006 Location: Hemel Hempstead, UK Posts: 1,671	Hate to say it but have to agree with everyone here. Couldn't understand why it was on the album, I understand that on most previous albums there has been a nice gentle ballad to finish off but this is not a good choice for a finishing song. They should have cut this and finished with the future, or found a better gentle ballad that lasts more than 2 minutes. 5 out of 10, afraid to say definately the poorest song on any Meatloaf album.

02 Jan 2007, 23:53	#11
White of High Nature's Siegfried Join Date: 27.05.2002 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 2,930	Average: 4.60 (46/10)

03 Jan 2007, 00:05	#12
Rockette Mega Loafer Join Date: 10.06.2005 Location: I think! Posts: 4,805	It's a nice little song that takes some getting used to. Don't care if it's not popular with lots of others ~ I like it. 7/10

21 Jan 2007, 15:14	#13
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	3

21 Jan 2007, 22:25	#14
evil nickname Guest Join Date: 19.04.2003 Posts: 2,238	The demo is better. The irish flute and that last not annoy the hell out of me. 5

22 Jan 2007, 17:37	#15
samurai7 Rock Star Join Date: 09.05.2005 Location: The future... Posts: 2,928	I like this one. 8

03 Jul 2007, 14:55	#16
LostSoul Got metal? Join Date: 06.11.2003 Location: Switzerland Posts: 2,109	Future should be the last one on the album. 4/10

30 Aug 2009, 16:50	#17
florence75015 Senior Loafer Join Date: 15.08.2009 Location: Paris Posts: 110	A beautiful song in my opinion, completely apart from the rest of the album. Both soft and sad, sadness being enhanced by the notes of Irish flute and once more by Meat's interpretation (I don't only mean singing). And Meat's voice on the last note is absolutely amazing, powerful and upsetting. He proves here that, even if the album is recorded in 2006, he still is and will always remain the best singer ever. 10/10

30 Aug 2009, 17:44	#18
glockenspiel Senior Loafer Join Date: 28.08.2009 Posts: 171	Don't understand why some people hate this so much. It is short and bittersweet, and ends on a big long 'hell!'. Job done.

30 Aug 2009, 18:18	#19
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	Have you heard the original 'Angels Arise' demo? There's so much potential in it, that it could have become the best song on the album, but that potential was completely wasted. Go listen to Angels Arise/Graveyard shift, you wont regret it!

30 Aug 2009, 20:19	#21
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	Here is the link to the Batman Musical page, one of the fans over at the Steinman board created. Among a lot of other stuff you can listen to all the demos Mr Steinman gave us on there.

30 Aug 2009, 21:16	#22
florence75015 Senior Loafer Join Date: 15.08.2009 Location: Paris Posts: 110	Thanks a lot for the link, I didn't know this site at all. I've listened to the demo and you're right, it's a beautiful version. But when I compare both of them, I think that Meat's version is way better. I can't find in the singer's voice the emotion that I hear in Meat's and his voice is also much more powerful. It's always difficult to express why a singer moves you more than another, but when I listen to "Cry To Heaven", I feel that particular emotion that made me love Meat's songs and see him totally different from others. Florence

30 Aug 2009, 22:08	#23
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	Well, as it is most of the time with steinman songs, you really have to listen to them a few times before you really get into it. It's a very long and complex song, but over the time I've acknowlegded it as one of Jim's best compositions. And I disagree, I think it is much more emotional than CTH, only that the emotion builds up over a long time, and you have to have the patience to listen to the whole song a few times before you really get it. That's my opinion anyway.

31 Aug 2009, 03:03	#24
florence75015 Senior Loafer Join Date: 15.08.2009 Location: Paris Posts: 110	I understand your point of view. As far as feelings are concerned, I guess that everybody has his own way to react. If I have to be touched by one of Meat's songs, I'm usually moved at once.

31 Aug 2009, 09:59	#25
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	everybody cant have the same taste, that's what makes discussions like this fun!