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Sarge 18 Mar 2009 11:43
Vinyl question
 
I hope someone can answer this question. I'd like to know how many vinyl records were actually manufactured / released of these albums:

1. Bat Out Of Hell II

2. Welcome To The Neighborhood

I recently saw it being offered on eBay for € 129. :shock: Is the price justified? I know it's pretty rare but I don't know how rare / valuable exactly.

3. Couldn't Have Said It Better

I know it exists but I've never seen one on the market.

4. Bat Out Of Hell III

I have seen the U.S. version by Virgin (red vinyl) quite often so far, while the European pressing by Mercury/Universal seems to be hardly available. Is it just a coincidence or is there a reason? Which edition is more rare? How many records were made in Europe and how many in the U.S.?

LucyK! 18 Mar 2009 12:18
No idea how many were actually manufactured :?

Bat II and Neighbourhood are more rare than the Bat, Dead Ringer etc but they are appearing on Ebay more and more often, though not sure $129 is a fair price.

Couldn't Have Said It Better is extremely rare, I have only ever seen one on the market, and it wasn't long before someone dropped everything and took it off the market as quickly as it appeared! :p

Bat III isn't as rare as I thought it was, again I have no idea of the numbers but they do appear on Ebay a lot. The red Bat III vinyl I think is more rare than the standard black one, all of which are well worth having!

daveake 18 Mar 2009 12:32
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Originally Posted by Lucy! (Post 458809)
Bat II and Neighbourhood are more rare than the Bat, Dead Ringer etc but they are appearing on Ebay more and more often, though not sure $129 is a fair price.
Can't speak for the Neighborhood one, but even the picture version of Bat II only goes for £20 or so.

Dave

AndyK 18 Mar 2009 14:24
I'd rate the albums in this order of decreasing rarity (or increasing availability)

CHSIB (As rare as rocking horse shit)
WTTN (I see about a copy a month on ebay somewhere with varying end prices)
Bat III (US Red and European issues seem to have abuot the same availability now)
Bat II (seems that the standard vinyl is more rare than the picture disc)

The remainder are equally available although obviously there's more copies of Bat, Deadringer and Midnight floating around as they were truly released before the CD age kicked off.

They're all lovely though ;-)

samurai7 18 Mar 2009 18:14
the only one I don't have is the CHSIB one. :|

Sarge 19 Mar 2009 08:50
Thank you. :-)

Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 458821)
They're all lovely though ;-)
Aside from the fact that I often prefer to listen to the vinyl record instead of the CD, the artwork of most of the albums just looks gorgeous in larger format (especially WTTN).

Quote:
Originally Posted by samurai7 (Post 458834)
the only one I don't have is the CHSIB one. :|
If it ever shows up somewhere, take care! I take no prisoners. My preciousssssssssss. :rambo: ... ;)

carole 19 Mar 2009 08:59
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 458821)
I'd rate the albums in this order of decreasing rarity (or increasing availability)

CHSIB (As rare as rocking horse shit)
WTTN (I see about a copy a month on ebay somewhere with varying end prices)
Bat III (US Red and European issues seem to have abuot the same availability now)
Bat II (seems that the standard vinyl is more rare than the picture disc)

The remainder are equally available although obviously there's more copies of Bat, Deadringer and Midnight floating around as they were truly released before the CD age kicked off.

They're all lovely though ;-)
Ha ha, I love your descriptions. I've only seen CHSIB once of ebay, and it went for an outrageously expensive price. I hate the original vinyl and picture disc of BOOH, the plain vinyl and picture disc of Bat 2, picture disc for Dead Ringer, plain vinyl for WTTN, but I didn't pay $129 for it, don't know if there is a picture disc of it, I haven't seen it if there is and the plain vinyl and red vinyl for Bat 3.

Carole

carole 19 Mar 2009 09:02
Quote:
Originally Posted by daveake (Post 458810)
Can't speak for the Neighborhood one, but even the picture version of Bat II only goes for £20 or so.

Dave
Well then, I was really ripped off, I paid $80 for it I've seen it go for varying prices.

Carole

daveake 19 Mar 2009 09:04
Quote:
Originally Posted by carole (Post 458899)
Well then, I was really ripped off, I paid $80 for it I've seen it go for varying prices.

Carole
I saw several go by on ebay for more than I was willing to pay - I just set my maximum and if it went higher I just waited for the next one. I think I paid £25 which is less than $40 these days but would have been about $50 then.

Dave

Sarge 19 Mar 2009 09:56
I haven't paid more than € 50 for a Meat Loaf record yet; those items were either in mint condition or still sealed. I'd be willing to spend much more on CHSIB. :D

I was a little disappointed by the U.S. pressing of Bat III. I've seen several copies and the labels on the records just didn't look good. They all had tears around the hole in the middle. The inner sleeves are also pretty cheap. What a contrast to the beautiful red vinyl and the nice fold-out cover.

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Originally Posted by carole (Post 458898)
picture disc for Dead Ringer
Is it the U.K. or U.S. version?
(The U.K. one has "Dead Ringer" printed on the banner while the U.S. version hasn't. The U.K. pressing also has the tracklist printed on the back; the U.S. record is pretty "naked". The same applies to the Bat Out Of Hell picture discs.)

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Originally Posted by carole (Post 458898)
plain vinyl for WTTN, but I didn't pay $129 for it, don't know if there is a picture disc of it
There isn't but there's a nice 12" picture disc of Running For The Red Light. :cool:

AndyK 19 Mar 2009 13:19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 458896)
Thank you. :-)



Aside from the fact that I often prefer to listen to the vinyl record instead of the CD, the artwork of most of the albums just looks gorgeous in larger format (especially WTTN).
They do indeed ... especially WTTN ... like this bargain (the picture really doesn't do it justice!)

http://media.mlxxfc.net/12022008024.jpg


Quote:
If it ever shows up somewhere, take care! I take no prisoners. My preciousssssssssss. :rambo: ... ;)
I dread to think of the ebay carnage that'll occur when a copy does reappear, the last one was over 18 months ago and following a mad dash home from work to get to a PC that allows ebay access ... it's now safely locked in a case, guarded by a moat, legions of blood thirsty troopers and a couple of leopards :))

daveake 19 Mar 2009 13:47
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 458905)
... legions of blood thirsty troopers and a couple of leopards :))
Hmmm, nice neighborhood ... no wonder the girl looks sh|t scared. :lol:

Dave :twisted:

AndyK 19 Mar 2009 14:01
That's the perils of being so close to Manchester ...

daveake 19 Mar 2009 14:39
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 458907)
That's the perils of being so close to Manchester ...
And Liverpool ...

:twisted:

Hypnobabe 19 Mar 2009 14:51
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 458905)
... it's now safely locked in a case, guarded by a moat, legions of blood thirsty troopers and a couple of leopards :))
Ahh, you've stepped down security then?

AndyK 19 Mar 2009 14:52
You think I'd reveal all of the measures in place?

mszee 19 Mar 2009 15:21
Don't forget the Cerberus with dirty beard...

Sarge 19 Mar 2009 19:06
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 458905)
This is very nice, what's its size?

AndyK 19 Mar 2009 19:54
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 458931)
This is very nice, what's its size?
The painting itself is 430 x 500 mm

carole 20 Mar 2009 03:21
Quote:
Originally Posted by daveake (Post 458900)
I saw several go by on ebay for more than I was willing to pay - I just set my maximum and if it went higher I just waited for the next one. I think I paid £25 which is less than $40 these days but would have been about $50 then.

Dave
Yeah I had to let it go a few times as it got too expensive for me, but it just seemed to be getting more expensive every time it came up, so I grabbed it before it got too much more.

Carole

carole 20 Mar 2009 03:24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 458901)
I haven't paid more than € 50 for a Meat Loaf record yet; those items were either in mint condition or still sealed. I'd be willing to spend much more on CHSIB. :D

I was a little disappointed by the U.S. pressing of Bat III. I've seen several copies and the labels on the records just didn't look good. They all had tears around the hole in the middle. The inner sleeves are also pretty cheap. What a contrast to the beautiful red vinyl and the nice fold-out cover.



Is it the U.K. or U.S. version?
(The U.K. one has "Dead Ringer" printed on the banner while the U.S. version hasn't. The U.K. pressing also has the tracklist printed on the back; the U.S. record is pretty "naked". The same applies to the Bat Out Of Hell picture discs.)



There isn't but there's a nice 12" picture disc of Running For The Red Light. :cool:
Oh good I'm glad there isn't something else to have too look for. I have the 12" picture disc of Running For The Red Light.

Carole

For crying out loud 20 Mar 2009 16:07
me too, pretty isn't it. my favorite is still the picture of meat on the back of the BOH2 picture disk, mine's made in the uk. dont know wether that increases or decreases the rarety...
http://media.mlxxfc.net/2009-03-20-53773.jpg


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