Brand new 30 minute documentary featuring 2 new songs?

Evil One · 08 Feb 2014, 18:56

That's the claim on the back of the Guilty Pleasure Blu Ray box.

Is the documentary the same as the regular DVD version? And are these 2 new songs non existent?

melon · 08 Feb 2014, 19:40

Is it only available in Blu ray?

Adje · 08 Feb 2014, 19:53

I have the BluRay. I have the DVD. Same content....

loaferman61 · 08 Feb 2014, 20:06

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Originally Posted by Adje

I have the BluRay. I have the DVD. Same content....

Same lighting?

Adje · 08 Feb 2014, 20:43

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Originally Posted by loaferman61

Same lighting?

Same lighting, same editing, same ConcertOne f*ck-ups. At least it has HD sound and HD picture.

Evil One · 09 Feb 2014, 16:57

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Originally Posted by Adje

same ConcertOne f*ck-ups

ConcertOne is a ~~~~ up. Appallingly shoddy worksmanship.

**Monstro** · 09 Feb 2014, 18:11

Same shit different ray

Wario · 10 Feb 2014, 07:02

ugh we really need a good DVD release....

loaferman61 · 10 Feb 2014, 18:04

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Originally Posted by Adje

Same lighting, same editing, same ConcertOne f*ck-ups. At least it has HD sound and HD picture.

I see blue people. I thought I had accidentally bought a "Smurfs" DVD. I'm still trying to figure out how much is overdubbed but the lighting makes it harder to tell. I like to get DVD's and I appreciate Meat doing it, but the company did a pretty poor job on this one I must say.

Wario · 11 Feb 2014, 02:07

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Originally Posted by loaferman61

I see blue people. I thought I had accidentally bought a "Smurfs" DVD. I'm still trying to figure out how much is overdubbed but the lighting makes it harder to tell. I like to get DVD's and I appreciate Meat doing it, but the company did a pretty poor job on this one I must say.

They increased the contrast and made it darker to mask the overdubbs. Its terrible.

Evil One · 11 Feb 2014, 12:04

No, I suspect ConcertOne increased the contrast and made it darker to mask the poor job they made of filming. Judging by their overall attention to detail, I doubt it was their intention to hide any overdubbing.

MarkS · 11 Feb 2014, 19:39

The concert one website hasn't been updated in over a year, so I imagine they are out of business. An d watching the GP DVD it isn't hard to see why

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TheDoode · 12 Feb 2014, 11:56

At least they have an alarmingly accurate name now.

loaferman61 · 12 Feb 2014, 19:46

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Originally Posted by MarkS

The concert one website hasn't been updated in over a year, so I imagine they are out of business. An d watching the GP DVD it isn't hard to see why

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I can't imagine anyone else using them after the shoddy job they did with GP. That is why I hope for another DVD so much. I thank Meat for going through with making the GP DVD although it was clear there were issues with the company. Meat didn't film it or anything so it was not his fault. He has seem to had a streak of bad luck with DVD's -with illness, throat and vocal chord issues, and bad lighting and poor production companies- and I hope he will break it with a new one.

loaferman61 · 12 Feb 2014, 19:49

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Originally Posted by Evil One

No, I suspect ConcertOne increased the contrast and made it darker to mask the poor job they made of filming. Judging by their overall attention to detail, I doubt it was their intention to hide any overdubbing.

True. I'm not sure they would have expected the overdubbing when they filmed. It just looks bad. I'm still trying to guess how much is audio from the actual Sydney show, I suppose we will never really know unless Meat or Paul says. I know Meat hoped to keep about 80% at one time, but from watching it I don't think it ended up being that much.

Evil One · 12 Feb 2014, 20:02

I suspect most of the overdubbing occurs whenever the sound effects come into play. The bit that I think should have been done is the end of Rock And Roll Dreams. Meat mumbles something about "It doesn't make any difference..." and I have no idea what he's actually saying.

Wario · 13 Feb 2014, 21:32

concert one even deleted their fb page. they are dead. good riddance

drewhiggins · 28 Feb 2014, 11:25

^ Good riddance indeed. I'm still peeved that I got two DVDs from different stores and not one worked in any of about 6 DVD players including friends' ones. Whether it was a botched batch or what, who knows.

You know, I still haven't been able to see the full show.

AndrewG · 28 Feb 2014, 18:59

The back sleeve sounds like it was written by an absolute, complete and utter moron.

Meat Loaf needs no introduction, then they introduce him, then the stupid short facts with exclamation marks and lastly they abbreviated many of the titles + obviously the other stuff they got wrong. Piss poor craftmanship that probably took an hour to do instead of spending a few days nailing the cover which would sit in the collection of many fans.

Whoever did that deserves a good beating.

AndrewG · 28 Feb 2014, 19:16

Haven't actually seen the full DVD but did just watch Peace on Earth on YT.

I agree with the Smurfs comment. Ridiculous amounts of blue and the blues are too harsh.

A lot of the shots seem really off. Sometimes we see the backs of the bandmembers that offers nothing significant otherwise. Why?

Some of the parts of Peace on Earth live I really liked during the HCTB tour in 2010. Like the use of the screen and seeing the shooting stars at the end. This nice stuff is completely lost by framing things so poorly. Why constantly show us the shot that shows us the stage and its surroundings to the extent you can see the theatre building interiors being lit up? This surely is a no-no for a DVD you have had time to spend post production time on? Poor editing and poor shot choices for a DVD capture they claim to have had 15 cameras for.

That's a real bloody shame actually. Bunch of ~~~~ers.

JennaG · 28 Feb 2014, 19:53

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Piss poor craftmanship that probably took an hour to do instead of spending a few days nailing the cover which would sit in the collection of many fans.

Whoever did that deserves a good beating.

Two Out Three Ain't Bad, anyone? Where's the 'of'?

The design itself isn't too bad but the write up should have been better. It doesn't really look all that professional when you've got mistakes like that in there.

lorenzoduke · 01 Mar 2014, 01:03

The most jarring overdub has to be the start of Stand In The Storm. Of course when he was on The One Show last time, this was the clip they showed.

Half of the songs listed on the back cover don't use the full title. I'm willing to bet that they just copied them from a hand-written setlist.

I think Rock Fuel have taken the 'shit music DVD' mantle from them now - almost makes me wonder if some of the same people are involved.

08 Feb 2014, 18:56	#1
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	Brand new 30 minute documentary featuring 2 new songs? That's the claim on the back of the Guilty Pleasure Blu Ray box. Is the documentary the same as the regular DVD version? And are these 2 new songs non existent?

08 Feb 2014, 19:40	#2
melon Long Distance Loafer Join Date: 17.07.2007 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 4,586	Is it only available in Blu ray?

08 Feb 2014, 19:53	#3
Adje trying to be realistic Join Date: 28.09.2007 Location: Posts: 1,959	I have the BluRay. I have the DVD. Same content....

09 Feb 2014, 18:11	#7
Monstro Promoted to Wario's spellchecker Join Date: 17.09.2005 Location: London Posts: 12,947	Same shit different ray

10 Feb 2014, 07:02	#8
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	ugh we really need a good DVD release....

11 Feb 2014, 12:04	#11
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	No, I suspect ConcertOne increased the contrast and made it darker to mask the poor job they made of filming. Judging by their overall attention to detail, I doubt it was their intention to hide any overdubbing.

11 Feb 2014, 19:39	#12
MarkS Super Loafer Join Date: 20.03.2012 Posts: 312	The concert one website hasn't been updated in over a year, so I imagine they are out of business. An d watching the GP DVD it isn't hard to see why Sent from my Moto X using Forum Runner

12 Feb 2014, 11:56	#13
TheDoode Guest Join Date: 16.02.2010 Posts: 1,023	At least they have an alarmingly accurate name now.

12 Feb 2014, 20:02	#16
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,192	I suspect most of the overdubbing occurs whenever the sound effects come into play. The bit that I think should have been done is the end of Rock And Roll Dreams. Meat mumbles something about "It doesn't make any difference..." and I have no idea what he's actually saying.

13 Feb 2014, 21:32	#17
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	concert one even deleted their fb page. they are dead. good riddance

28 Feb 2014, 11:25	#18
drewhiggins Loafer Join Date: 11.12.2010 Location: Posts: 69	^ Good riddance indeed. I'm still peeved that I got two DVDs from different stores and not one worked in any of about 6 DVD players including friends' ones. Whether it was a botched batch or what, who knows. You know, I still haven't been able to see the full show.

28 Feb 2014, 18:59	#19
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	The back sleeve sounds like it was written by an absolute, complete and utter moron. Meat Loaf needs no introduction, then they introduce him, then the stupid short facts with exclamation marks and lastly they abbreviated many of the titles + obviously the other stuff they got wrong. Piss poor craftmanship that probably took an hour to do instead of spending a few days nailing the cover which would sit in the collection of many fans. Whoever did that deserves a good beating.

28 Feb 2014, 19:16	#20
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	Haven't actually seen the full DVD but did just watch Peace on Earth on YT. I agree with the Smurfs comment. Ridiculous amounts of blue and the blues are too harsh. A lot of the shots seem really off. Sometimes we see the backs of the bandmembers that offers nothing significant otherwise. Why? Some of the parts of Peace on Earth live I really liked during the HCTB tour in 2010. Like the use of the screen and seeing the shooting stars at the end. This nice stuff is completely lost by framing things so poorly. Why constantly show us the shot that shows us the stage and its surroundings to the extent you can see the theatre building interiors being lit up? This surely is a no-no for a DVD you have had time to spend post production time on? Poor editing and poor shot choices for a DVD capture they claim to have had 15 cameras for. That's a real bloody shame actually. Bunch of ~~~~ers.

01 Mar 2014, 01:03	#22
lorenzoduke Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.07.2006 Posts: 1,269	The most jarring overdub has to be the start of Stand In The Storm. Of course when he was on The One Show last time, this was the clip they showed. Half of the songs listed on the back cover don't use the full title. I'm willing to bet that they just copied them from a hand-written setlist. I think Rock Fuel have taken the 'shit music DVD' mantle from them now - almost makes me wonder if some of the same people are involved.