You Tube Rant

Blackkat13 · 11 Feb 2007, 22:18

Oh My God!!!!! What did I do! Youtube says my account has been disabled or suspened? I mean I don't have anything offensive on there and the videos I have used true they came from ROL but I asked. Same with Surf's Up from Puddings site I asked. The Pelts video was not offensive and showed no nudity. What Pricks!!!!! I am a nice Little youtuber I agree to all there rules and all but this is to far. I am going to see what is going to happen in the days comeing if I get my account back then I will be happy if not I will repost Getting away, Surf Up's, BAAB, Billy Idol Videos, and more. Has anyone had this happen to them?

MeatGrl1 · 11 Feb 2007, 22:36

WHAT THE HELL!

Mine too!

**RadioMaster** · 11 Feb 2007, 22:50

you should all have kept your homemade porn videos for yourself

djfierce · 11 Feb 2007, 23:13

oooh! you bad little youtubers!

I'm unfamiliar with the ins and outs of youtube threfore can be absolutely no assistance at all. Dont they give you a reason

Lord Kagan · 11 Feb 2007, 23:16

Tsk tsk, Gonna guess something to do with your tonnes of meat vids? Had to have broken some copyright law

geordieloaf · 12 Feb 2007, 00:12

I agree it's probably something to do with copyright. I was looking at Stephen Lynch video's and alot of them have been removed for that reason.

Blackkat13 · 12 Feb 2007, 09:06

Sad Really.....Man Meatgrl We have been robbed! I liked your videos.....wonder if they are going after everyone who put up videos, tv shows, etc.... I don't get youtube cause I seen a kid pop a boyal on his face and that was ok. and it was gross. Youtube sucks I guess i'll just put up few of my videos on Myspace thats where BAAB Pelts is at and thats safe cause someone put up a few of the killing scenes on there.

**RadioMaster** · 12 Feb 2007, 16:44

Just heard a rumour that Google/Youtube is planning to make a deal with the music companies to put ALL MUSIC VIDEOS EVER MADE up on youtube. Maybe that´s the reason why there deleting all music videos they can find,,,
But banning the member...I dont know...

daveake · 12 Feb 2007, 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackkat13

Sad Really.....Man Meatgrl We have been robbed!

Hardly. It's a free service and they've withdrawn it from you. I don't happen to agree with what they've done, but they've been under pressure from Viacom to remove videos to which Viacom owns the copyright. Viacom's position (again, I don't agree with it) is that those uploading these videos were doing the robbing.

Dave

*AndyK* · 12 Feb 2007, 18:10

Whether you like it or not here's an extract form the YouTube Terms Of Use, which anyone signing up for an account on that site has ot agree to ...

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...you further agree that you will not: (i) submit material that is copyrighted, protected by trade secret or otherwise subject to third party proprietary rights, including privacy and publicity rights, unless you are the owner of such rights or have permission from their rightful owner to post the material

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...YouTube may remove such User Submissions and/or terminate a User's access for uploading such material in violation of these Terms of Service at any time, without prior notice and at its sole discretion.

djfierce · 12 Feb 2007, 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

Just heard a rumour that Google/Youtube is planning to make a deal with the music companies to put ALL MUSIC VIDEOS EVER MADE up on youtube. Maybe that´s the reason why there deleting all music videos they can find,,,
But banning the member...I dont know...

ok this 'rumour' had me intrigued so i tried searching several artists and tried viewing their music vids, all we successful plus Meat's vids. So then i thought maybe its something Meat's company have objected to but you two guys are the only ones i can find that have been suspended.
It is a shame as both of you guys have great stuff and i cant really remember you guys having anything different to anyone else

but as Andy points out their conditions are clear

Blackkat13 · 12 Feb 2007, 21:34

True but they should have sent me a email and I would have removed them all. I just hate how they are doing this.

*AndyK* · 12 Feb 2007, 21:46

No they shouldn't, it says "without prior notice" ... you should have known what they were entitled to do. End of the day it's a free service you've been using, they've done nothing wrong in withdrawing your access to it.

daveake · 13 Feb 2007, 05:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackkat13

Youtube sucks I guess i'll just put up few of my videos on Myspace thats where BAAB Pelts is at and thats safe cause someone put up a few of the killing scenes on there.

Faulty logic Batman. Just because they haven't withdrawn something yet doesn't mean they won't. See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02...ocking_filter/

**Monstro** · 16 Feb 2007, 04:26

I don't understand how to post on it, I just watch

Blackkat13 · 16 Feb 2007, 20:24

Under videos it say Upload and thats where you upload your videos

Chris · 16 Feb 2007, 22:03

It makes perfect sense to remove the clips.

Google have got a court order from Viacom demanding the removal of over 100,000 copyrighted clips. Other media companies will either follow suit through the courts or make it part of the conditions in the deals they are looking to sign for distributing legal content on there.

As for asking permission, take for example the surfs up video mentioned in the first post. I presume from the first post that someone asked pudding for permission, however copyright is owned by someone like SonyBMG and I can't see them giving permission to allow it.

Blackkat13 · 17 Feb 2007, 21:42

Well first it started with Napster and music now they are taking videos....True you can DL most of them off of limewire but still what's next after this????? Photo's???

JanT · 17 Feb 2007, 22:14

Suppose if it's not copyrighted or offensive in any way, shape or form it's ok to post. ???

Chris · 17 Feb 2007, 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by JanT

Suppose if it's not copyrighted or offensive in any way, shape or form it's ok to post. ???

Yes, providing there is no copyright, you own the copyright or the copyright holder has given permission then you cna post it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackkat13

Well first it started with Napster and music now they are taking videos....True you can DL most of them off of limewire but still what's next after this????? Photo's???

No, first it started with people illegally distributing things they were not entitled to distribute. Would you walk into a record store/video store and pick up a CD/DVD, put it in your pocket and walk off with it? It is exactly the same.

Blackkat13 · 18 Feb 2007, 21:22

Sad thing there are worst things on here the net then copyrighted music, videos, photo, you can type anything.com and get some wierd web sites. As far as bootlegs cds, videos, dvd, etc. You can go to anywhere and find that on any street here in Flint. Plus who hasn't made copys of dvds on vhs. I have and thats cause my grandparents wanted ray and pearl harbor on tape and i was givin' the movies and did it I just don't sell anything. Only reason why they cracked down on music is cause metallica went after napster and music dl. Videos is now Viacom and Youtube & Myspace are going to be cracking down, articles in the paper. I understand the laws and read copyrights and know people have the copyrights of there own pics and artwork, etc.

**The Flying Mouse** · 20 Feb 2007, 04:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackkat13

Sad thing there are worst things on here the net then copyrighted music, videos, photo, you can type anything.com and get some wierd web sites.

False logic.

The police (I dare say) do not sit around on PC's all day looking on youtube for copyrighted material.

But if the owner of copyrighted material comes across said material posted for free on the net without prior agreement and concent with that copyright holder, they that holder has a legal right to demand that the material is withdrawn.

Now let's be realistic here, a LOT of what is posted on youtube is copyrighted material, and posted by somebody with no legal right to do so.

Most of the legal copyrighters will never know it's up there.

Some of them know and just don't care.

But some of them see their legal property being shared openly for free and decide "that is mine, I might want to use that one day to make money", they'll send a cease and disist notice to youtube, and if that vid is not removed, YOUTUBE WILL BE PROSECUTED.

I know it's not a real crime, or a serious crime, but it is a crime, and where lawyers are involved, and money to be made, spitting on the sidewalk is a capital offence.

11 Feb 2007, 22:18	#1
Blackkat13 Mega Loafer Join Date: 30.07.2006 Location: Hell, Michigan Posts: 1,989	You Tube Rant Oh My God!!!!! What did I do! Youtube says my account has been disabled or suspened? I mean I don't have anything offensive on there and the videos I have used true they came from ROL but I asked. Same with Surf's Up from Puddings site I asked. The Pelts video was not offensive and showed no nudity. What Pricks!!!!! I am a nice Little youtuber I agree to all there rules and all but this is to far. I am going to see what is going to happen in the days comeing if I get my account back then I will be happy if not I will repost Getting away, Surf Up's, BAAB, Billy Idol Videos, and more. Has anyone had this happen to them?

11 Feb 2007, 22:36	#2
MeatGrl1 No Day But Today Join Date: 29.05.2006 Location: Sitting on the steps outside looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 9,089	WHAT THE HELL! Mine too!

11 Feb 2007, 22:50	#3
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	you should all have kept your homemade porn videos for yourself

11 Feb 2007, 23:13	#4
djfierce Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2005 Location: Posts: 3,596	oooh! you bad little youtubers! I'm unfamiliar with the ins and outs of youtube threfore can be absolutely no assistance at all. Dont they give you a reason

11 Feb 2007, 23:16	#5
Lord Kagan On the other hand, You have different fingers Join Date: 17.05.2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 8,833	Tsk tsk, Gonna guess something to do with your tonnes of meat vids? Had to have broken some copyright law

12 Feb 2007, 00:12	#6
geordieloaf Can't You See My Faded Geordie Jeans Bursting Apart Join Date: 25.10.2006 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,360	I agree it's probably something to do with copyright. I was looking at Stephen Lynch video's and alot of them have been removed for that reason.

12 Feb 2007, 09:06	#7
Blackkat13 Mega Loafer Join Date: 30.07.2006 Location: Hell, Michigan Posts: 1,989	Sad Really.....Man Meatgrl We have been robbed! I liked your videos.....wonder if they are going after everyone who put up videos, tv shows, etc.... I don't get youtube cause I seen a kid pop a boyal on his face and that was ok. and it was gross. Youtube sucks I guess i'll just put up few of my videos on Myspace thats where BAAB Pelts is at and thats safe cause someone put up a few of the killing scenes on there.

12 Feb 2007, 16:44	#8
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	Just heard a rumour that Google/Youtube is planning to make a deal with the music companies to put ALL MUSIC VIDEOS EVER MADE up on youtube. Maybe that´s the reason why there deleting all music videos they can find,,, But banning the member...I dont know...

12 Feb 2007, 21:34	#12
Blackkat13 Mega Loafer Join Date: 30.07.2006 Location: Hell, Michigan Posts: 1,989	True but they should have sent me a email and I would have removed them all. I just hate how they are doing this.

12 Feb 2007, 21:46	#13
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	No they shouldn't, it says "without prior notice" ... you should have known what they were entitled to do. End of the day it's a free service you've been using, they've done nothing wrong in withdrawing your access to it.

16 Feb 2007, 04:26	#15
Monstro Promoted to Wario's spellchecker Join Date: 17.09.2005 Location: London Posts: 12,947	I don't understand how to post on it, I just watch

16 Feb 2007, 20:24	#16
Blackkat13 Mega Loafer Join Date: 30.07.2006 Location: Hell, Michigan Posts: 1,989	Under videos it say Upload and thats where you upload your videos

16 Feb 2007, 22:03	#17
Chris Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Somewhere in the real world. Posts: 7,527	It makes perfect sense to remove the clips. Google have got a court order from Viacom demanding the removal of over 100,000 copyrighted clips. Other media companies will either follow suit through the courts or make it part of the conditions in the deals they are looking to sign for distributing legal content on there. As for asking permission, take for example the surfs up video mentioned in the first post. I presume from the first post that someone asked pudding for permission, however copyright is owned by someone like SonyBMG and I can't see them giving permission to allow it.

17 Feb 2007, 21:42	#18
Blackkat13 Mega Loafer Join Date: 30.07.2006 Location: Hell, Michigan Posts: 1,989	Well first it started with Napster and music now they are taking videos....True you can DL most of them off of limewire but still what's next after this????? Photo's???

17 Feb 2007, 22:14	#19
JanT Mega Loafer Join Date: 22.06.2006 Location: Blackpool Posts: 2,232	Suppose if it's not copyrighted or offensive in any way, shape or form it's ok to post. ???

18 Feb 2007, 21:22	#21
Blackkat13 Mega Loafer Join Date: 30.07.2006 Location: Hell, Michigan Posts: 1,989	Sad thing there are worst things on here the net then copyrighted music, videos, photo, you can type anything.com and get some wierd web sites. As far as bootlegs cds, videos, dvd, etc. You can go to anywhere and find that on any street here in Flint. Plus who hasn't made copys of dvds on vhs. I have and thats cause my grandparents wanted ray and pearl harbor on tape and i was givin' the movies and did it I just don't sell anything. Only reason why they cracked down on music is cause metallica went after napster and music dl. Videos is now Viacom and Youtube & Myspace are going to be cracking down, articles in the paper. I understand the laws and read copyrights and know people have the copyrights of there own pics and artwork, etc.