Meat To Receive Q Award - Page 6

carole · 09 Oct 2008, 00:04

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Originally Posted by MeatGrl1

More news on Meat;

Meat Loaf's dizzy day

SHOCK ! Meat Loaf rushed to hospital

Meat Loaf blames rambling speech on 'vertigo'.

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I have to agree with Andy's post, Meat's damned if he is and damned if he isn't, either way the papers would find some reason to make or get a negative story but I do feel it's unfair that all the media seem to focus on is his health and not the accomplishment that Bat has acheived in getting this recognition.
I wish Meat a speedy recovery.

Yeah I agree with both you and Andy, whatever Meat does, he doesn't win. If he cancelled, they would have had a go at him for not showing, when he shows up even though he isn't well, they imply he's drunk. That's true, they should be focusing on the accomplishment of Bat, after all that's what it was all about. Get well Meat, we all love you.

Carole

24K · 09 Oct 2008, 00:18

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

that's a bit harsh

Im not an expert on this, but I think if he wouldnt attend a ceremony like this twice in a row, it might have some effect. For example that he wouldnt get awarded anymore at all, as people wouldnt expect him to show up, etc

Some effect maybe, but i very much doubt it would have been all over the place about what happened with him at the Q awards, thats my own opinion anyway.
As for he didn't attend a previous award and then if he hadn't attended this, i really don't think that they stop giving people awards just if they can't attend, afterall a lot of acts are out on the road etc, again thats just my opinion.

Pudding · 09 Oct 2008, 00:21

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Originally Posted by AndyK

Strikes me this was a no win situation for Meat.

He wakes up on the morning of the awards and he feels unwell ... if he cancels his appearance there's the risk of the negative headlines and stories regarding him pulling out of attending. So, he turns up and what doe she get? Negative headlines and stories regarding him attending.

I disagree. The win in this situation would be Meats health. If you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, then you might as well be damned but be healthy with it.

Pud

*AndyK* · 09 Oct 2008, 00:33

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Originally Posted by Pudding

I disagree. The win in this situation would be Meats health. If you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, then you might as well be damned but be healthy with it.

Pud

Disagree all you want, but you're disagreeing with a point I wasn't making

I was talking about a lose/lose in terms of potential negative publicity not with regard to his health.

It's pretty obvious in hindsight, that Meat's best course of action would have been to stay tucked up in his hotel room (or even LA if he was ill before he travelled).

MissAsh · 09 Oct 2008, 01:22

I think I must've been living under a rock the last 24 hours, no idea how I missed all this going on! Wish I hadn't watched the video clips but ah well.

Hope Meat makes a full recovery very soon.

24K · 09 Oct 2008, 01:28

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Originally Posted by Pudding

I disagree. The win in this situation would be Meats health. If you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, then you might as well be damned but be healthy with it.

Pud

Damned healthy would be nice

Battybarb · 09 Oct 2008, 02:49

have not been online for a couple of days,just read this thread and seen some clips ((not all,wished i had not seen one or two,bit upsetting)).
Godd on meat for getting the award and making it to the awards,and lets hope he makes a speedy recovery and feels loads better a.s.a.p.
A friend of mine suffers with vertigo and she has had some terrible times with it..

Pudding · 09 Oct 2008, 04:24

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Originally Posted by AndyK

Disagree all you want, but you're disagreeing with a point I wasn't making

I was talking about a lose/lose in terms of potential negative publicity not with regard to his health.

If you're not there to collect an award for health reasons I fail to see how you'd get the same negative publicity as accepting an award and making a tw@t of yourself.

At the end of the day Meat did what he thought was best or the people he's surrounded with made that decision for him. I think he needs to surround himself with better people in all honesty as he clearly wasn't in a coherent mental state.

Pud

**RadioMaster** · 09 Oct 2008, 09:50

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Originally Posted by carole

Yeah I agree with both you and Andy, whatever Meat does, he doesn't win. If he cancelled, they would have had a go at him for not showing, when he shows up even though he isn't well, they imply he's drunk. That's true, they should be focusing on the accomplishment of Bat, after all that's what it was all about. Get well Meat, we all love you.

Carole

well, there WAS one option to win for him:

He could have showed up sober

*sits back, relaxes, sips his tea and waits for the stones to be thrown*

AndrewG · 09 Oct 2008, 10:47

Just don't hold that tea too close to your face when they throw a stone at you!

carole · 09 Oct 2008, 11:07

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

well, there WAS one option to win for him:

He could have showed up sober

*sits back, relaxes, sips his tea and waits for the stones to be thrown*

I'll throw the first one then!!!!!! Meat WAS sober, he already explained he had vertifo, that's why he was unsteady. It's bad enough the press saying stuff like that about him, he doesn't need it from his fans as well.

Carole

Pudding · 09 Oct 2008, 11:16

I don't believe Meat was drunk either, but I find it puzzling how he was coherent to say he had Vertigo several times but incoherent for everything else he said.

I hope he gets better soon.

Pud

**Monstro** · 09 Oct 2008, 11:35

Meat drunk? Nah

I'm more concerned as to why RJ wants to get stoned!!!!!

*AndyK* · 09 Oct 2008, 11:50

A couple of things.

It's getting a little tiresome to come on here and see RJ trying to start an argument when there isn't one to start in the first place.

Pud, I still think you've missed my point, not that it matters

For crying out loud · 09 Oct 2008, 19:40

grrr, met such a horrible woman today! we were discussing music on the bus, and i said how i was a big fan of meatloaf, she said, and i quote "oh that arrogant b*****d, i cant stand that man, did you see how much of a tw*t he made of himself the other night, it was all over the papers, blaming vertigo, he was bloody drunk!" when asked whether she had ever listened to any of his work, "why would i listen to someone who behaves like that in public, i've seen clips of him on T.V he's so arrogant and agressive on stage!" unfortunatly even after three stops of explanation theratre and acting on stage seemed beyond her grasp! i have no problem with other people liking different things, but sometimes people are awful, and the mwdia doesn't help!!! :@

AndrewG · 09 Oct 2008, 19:52

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Originally Posted by For crying out loud

"why would i listen to someone who behaves like that in public, i've seen clips of him on T.V he's so arrogant and agressive on stage!"

If someone said that to me on the bus I'd say:
"Why? Well maybe cuz it's brilliant music sung by a fantastic singer/performer. But if you want to stick with shit music that will probably never touch your soul be my guest. Good luck to you. Oh there's your stop, mind you don't trip on the way out the door."

duke knooby · 09 Oct 2008, 20:14

you shouldda just offered her some crisps

**RadioMaster** · 09 Oct 2008, 20:41

remember that plan doesnt work in england (at least not at 3am)

MeatGrl1 · 09 Oct 2008, 21:29

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Originally Posted by duke knooby

you shouldda just offered her some crisps

Brilliant !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pudding · 09 Oct 2008, 22:15

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Originally Posted by AndyK

Pud, I still think you've missed my point, not that it matters

Just call me the Tottenham Hotspurs of the board

Pud

Pudding · 09 Oct 2008, 22:20

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Originally Posted by For crying out loud

grrr, met such a horrible woman today! we were discussing music on the bus, and i said how i was a big fan of meatloaf

I take it it was a woman you knew or was it just a random conversation with a stranger? I wonder how that conversation would start?

"Nice weather we're having"
"It's not bad is it"
"I'm a big fan of Meat Loaf by the way, he's the best"

You probably took her by surprise.

Pud

Paul191 · 09 Oct 2008, 22:36

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Originally Posted by Pudding

"Nice weather we're having"
"It's not bad is it"
"I'm a big fan of Meat Loaf by the way, he's the best"

Pud

Hahahahahaha! Nice one.

I do think she said they were talking about music in general though before the whole Meat thing popped up.

carole · 09 Oct 2008, 23:53

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

If someone said that to me on the bus I'd say:
"Why? Well maybe cuz it's brilliant music sung by a fantastic singer/performer. But if you want to stick with shit music that will probably never touch your soul be my guest. Good luck to you. Oh there's your stop, mind you don't trip on the way out the door."

That's very articulate. It's always easy to think of what to say afterwards. When I'm put on the spot or taken by surprise I usually can't think of anything clever to say, and later think, I wish I'd said that!!!! I've had so many arguments with people over Meat and been given weird looks over the years, it's not funny. Other people just don't get it. If those people knew i went to England to see him this year, they'd really shake their head.

Carole

carole · 09 Oct 2008, 23:56

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Originally Posted by duke knooby

you shouldda just offered her some crisps

I'm a bit dumb here, I don't get it!!!!

Carole

**RadioMaster** · 09 Oct 2008, 23:57

dont worry, noone really 'gets' jonty

09 Oct 2008, 01:22	#130
MissAsh Super Loafer Join Date: 14.02.2005 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 743	I think I must've been living under a rock the last 24 hours, no idea how I missed all this going on! Wish I hadn't watched the video clips but ah well. Hope Meat makes a full recovery very soon.

09 Oct 2008, 02:49	#132
Battybarb Nutty Tart From Hell Join Date: 25.05.2007 Location: liverpool Posts: 8,390	have not been online for a couple of days,just read this thread and seen some clips ((not all,wished i had not seen one or two,bit upsetting)). Godd on meat for getting the award and making it to the awards,and lets hope he makes a speedy recovery and feels loads better a.s.a.p. A friend of mine suffers with vertigo and she has had some terrible times with it..

09 Oct 2008, 10:47	#135
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,081	Just don't hold that tea too close to your face when they throw a stone at you!

09 Oct 2008, 11:16	#137
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	I don't believe Meat was drunk either, but I find it puzzling how he was coherent to say he had Vertigo several times but incoherent for everything else he said. I hope he gets better soon. Pud

09 Oct 2008, 11:35	#138
Monstro Promoted to Wario's spellchecker Join Date: 17.09.2005 Location: London Posts: 12,947	Meat drunk? Nah I'm more concerned as to why RJ wants to get stoned!!!!!

09 Oct 2008, 11:50	#139
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	A couple of things. It's getting a little tiresome to come on here and see RJ trying to start an argument when there isn't one to start in the first place. Pud, I still think you've missed my point, not that it matters

09 Oct 2008, 19:40	#140
For crying out loud Senior Loafer Join Date: 25.08.2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 182	grrr, met such a horrible woman today! we were discussing music on the bus, and i said how i was a big fan of meatloaf, she said, and i quote "oh that arrogant b****d, i cant stand that man, did you see how much of a twt he made of himself the other night, it was all over the papers, blaming vertigo, he was bloody drunk!" when asked whether she had ever listened to any of his work, "why would i listen to someone who behaves like that in public, i've seen clips of him on T.V he's so arrogant and agressive on stage!" unfortunatly even after three stops of explanation theratre and acting on stage seemed beyond her grasp! i have no problem with other people liking different things, but sometimes people are awful, and the mwdia doesn't help!!! :@

09 Oct 2008, 20:14	#142
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,891	you shouldda just offered her some crisps

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RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	remember that plan doesnt work in england (at least not at 3am)

09 Oct 2008, 23:57	#150
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