Duet with CC?

[CarylB]

Originally Posted by LostInBat

Patti's stage presence is great when she's duetting but I found on her solo during Casa she was always looking around for backup or support, but shes awesome anyways.

You thought she was looking for support when she was singing Bible and a Beer? I'm amazed .. she absolutely belted that out at every show I attended, and it was a highlight, for me and for many others according to their reviews. In the show storyline she's singing about her feelings having been wronged by Meat's character .. He stands in the background, and one can see his gradual realisation and remorse at how he's let her down, in preparation for them reuniting in AFL. Are you sure you aren't mis-interpreting her glances at him? Because she delivered Bible incredibly powerfully.

Caryl

[Evil One]

I never twigged on that if it were the case. I just thought Meat was standing in the background having a breather and enjoying Patti's performance.

[24K]

Originally Posted by CarylB

You thought she was looking for support when she was singing Bible and a Beer? I'm amazed .. she absolutely belted that out at every show I attended, and it was a highlight, for me and for many others according to their reviews. In the show storyline she's singing about her feelings having been wronged by Meat's character .. He stands in the background, and one can see his gradual realisation and remorse at how he's let her down, in preparation for them reuniting in AFL. Are you sure you aren't mis-interpreting her glances at him? Because she delivered Bible incredibly powerfully.

Caryl

I agree thats how i saw it

[CarylB]

Originally Posted by 24K

I agree thats how i saw it

Yes .. Meat's an actor. All you had to do was watch his face. He stayed still, quiet so as not to detract from Patti's stunning performance, but the emotions played out on his face I think were clear, and served to enhance and continue the storyline he promised us in the show.

I mentioned it mainly to suggest some reason anyone could have mistaken the occasional glance Patti gave Meat, because it certainly wasn't a need for support in her performance of Bible and a Beer .. which was dazzling. I'd say one of the best songs she's ever performed in a Meat show. Striding back and forth across the stage in that long black coat, with a voice that soared out across every venue!

Caryl

[Wario]

Originally Posted by CarylB

Yes .. Meat's an actor. All you had to do was watch his face. He stayed still, quiet so as not to detract from Patti's stunning performance, but the emotions played out on his face I think were clear, and served to enhance and continue the storyline he promised us in the show.

I mentioned it mainly to suggest some reason anyone could have mistaken the occasional glance Patti gave Meat, because it certainly wasn't a need for support in her performance of Bible and a Beer .. which was dazzling. I'd say one of the best songs she's ever performed in a Meat show. Striding back and forth across the stage in that long black coat, with a voice that soared out across every venue!

Caryl

makes me wonder why he omitted it for the US leg

[Cristina]

Originally Posted by CarylB

Striding back and forth across the stage in that long black coat, with a voice that soared out across every venue!

Caryl

yeah, and it was her own song

[24K]

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

makes me wonder why he omitted it for the US leg

Maybe time constraints ? Singing new songs from HCTB would be a guess on my part.

[Wario]

Originally Posted by 24K

Maybe time constraints ? Singing new songs from HCTB would be a guess on my part.

Well that too, but I meant the us leg of the casa tour. he omitted that.

[24K]

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Well that too, but I meant the us leg of the casa tour. he omitted that.

Can't remember that, i have a shit memory for a lot of stuff !

[Pudding]

Originally Posted by CarylB

You thought she was looking for support when she was singing Bible and a Beer? I'm amazed .. she absolutely belted that out at every show I attended, and it was a highlight, for me and for many others according to their reviews. In the show storyline she's singing about her feelings having been wronged by Meat's character .. He stands in the background, and one can see his gradual realisation and remorse at how he's let her down, in preparation for them reuniting in AFL. Are you sure you aren't mis-interpreting her glances at him? Because she delivered Bible incredibly powerfully.

What the hell? there might be a storyline in your head If there is/was a storyline, then you'll to show me where it says as much in a tourbook.

As been suggested, I think Patti singing was a chance to give Meat a breather and an opportunity for Patti to do a solo song. Especially after the debacle of Bat3 and Patti leaving, which Meat as openly stated he regrets, I feel allowing Patti to do a solo number was a chance for them to make amends.

That aside though, it's nonsense for someone to suggest that Patti needs backup. The occasional glances were probably just harmless enough and too much is being read into it and MEats facial expressions could be a number of things, impressed with Patti's song, singing or just passing wind it could be a number of possibilities.

Originally Posted by 24K

Can't remember that, i have a shit memory for a lot of stuff !

You've probably forgotten then that you owe me £50 then

[CarylB]

Originally Posted by Pudding

What the hell? there might be a storyline in your head If there is/was a storyline, then you'll to show me where it says as much in a tourbook.

No need to what the hell, nor what the ~~~~. I didn't need to look in a tourbook, nor do I need to show you where it says that in a tourbook .. just as well because I don't believe there was one. Meat himself told us there was a storyline running through the show and linking the songs .. He designed it, and imo it was pretty clear.

Yes, it was obviously an opportunity for Patti to do a splendid solo, and it fitted right in with the storyline.

That aside though, it's nonsense for someone to suggest that Patti needs backup.

Yes.

The occasional glances were probably just harmless enough and too much is being read into it and Meats facial expressions could be a number of things, impressed with Patti's song, singing it could be a number of possibilities.

I don't believe you saw the show did you? I did. No need to heap some kind of spurious scorn on those of us who did see shows, followed the storyline, and could see and appreciate Meat's acting skills.

Caryl

[Sarge]

Originally Posted by Pudding

What the hell? there might be a storyline in your head If there is/was a storyline, then you'll to show me where it says as much in a tourbook.

I never thought I'd return in support of Caryl.

Some songs were indeed performed in an order and in a way that told a story and Bible And A Beer obviously was a part of it. If that wasn't the case, either a large part of the audience fell victims to a delusion or Caryl and I share the same mind. But I think Meat's promise of getting a "plastic butt" like J.Lo's was even more amusing than the whole performance.

Originally Posted by CarylB

Meat himself told us there was a storyline running through the show and linking the songs

Oh... he had to tell you? I thought you realized it yourself.

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Well that too, but I meant the us leg of the casa tour. he omitted that.

I know she sang it when I saw them in both Clearwater and Orlando.
But then he decided to shorten the show a little bit and dropped it from the setlist by the time I saw them in NYC in December.

[carole]

Originally Posted by suzieq

Correction: My CC and Aspen pics were from the Seize the Night Tour, not Casa.

Oh don't worry Suzie, we won't hold it against you!!!!!! hahaha

Carole

[24K]

Originally Posted by Pudding

You've probably forgotten then that you owe me £50 then

Sending it in the post LOL..

[duke knooby]

Originally Posted by 24K

Sending it in the post LOL..

now don't forget to post it

[24K]

Originally Posted by duke knooby

now don't forget to post it

TFF ! Thanks for the reminder LOL..

[CarylB]

Originally Posted by Sarge

Oh... he had to tell you? I thought you realized it yourself.

Wel it was fairly easy to see and follow .. no mass delusions either But in the absence of proof of tourbook, I mentioned that Meat had posted it on-line just to reinforce the point that none of us were deluded, or imagining things

Caryl

[24K]

I concur with Caryl, something that doesn't happen everyday LOL..

[cujo]

Originally Posted by Pudding

What the hell? there might be a storyline in your head If there is/was a storyline, then you'll to show me where it says as much in a tourbook.

I have to say that the storyline in that tour was blatantly obvious and brilliantly done - yes it may have helped Meat get a breather, but the Bible and a Beer routine was part of a thread of songs that ran through the middle of the show

[Smithie]

They didn't do Bible & a Beer at the US shows, but it looked really great in the videos I saw.

I really don't think CC's voice blends very well with Meat's voice in duets, but she sounds good in songs like Gimme Shelter. I also don't think she has believable chemistry with Meat. Patti barely gets to sing any duets in this new show, so there just isn't enough time in the show.

[cujo]

Originally Posted by Vickip

I know she sang it when I saw them in both Clearwater and Orlando.
But then he decided to shorten the show a little bit and dropped it from the setlist by the time I saw them in NYC in December.

You must have been taking them funny pills again Vicky - cos the shows in Florida that year were at Clearwater & Pompano not Orlando - Lol

[Pudding]

Originally Posted by Sarge

I never thought I'd return in support of Caryl.

Originally Posted by 24K

I concur with Caryl, something that doesn't happen everyday LOL..

I've made Caryl some friends, that doesn't happen everyday, I hope she thanks me

The storyline running through the show, I don't buy it. Cobbling together songs in a certain order doesn't work for me, especially when there's no convoluted story to back it up and the songs aren't written by the same person.

Why can't people just enjoy the songs on their own instead of them being tied to a story? I'd say the 'mass' aren't deluded at all because the mass don't give two shits about some bogus story, they're there to rock to each song, whichever song it may be and whichever order, I really don't think they care.

[The Flying Mouse]

What works for one won't work for others


Personally, I liked the segment where CC did 45 secs with Meat getting seduced away from Patti, then Patti getting pissed at Meat with bible and beer and Meat's facial expressions.

Think it was a good job all round, but if you want to take each song as it comes rather than buying into the story idea, there's nothing wrong with that.

[Sarge]

Originally Posted by Pudding

Why can't people just enjoy the songs on their own instead of them being tied to a story? I'd say the 'mass' aren't deluded at all because the mass don't give two shits about some bogus story, they're there to rock to each song, whichever song it may be and whichever order, I really don't think they care.

Of course you don't necessarily need a story but everybody I was at the shows with really enjoyed that kind of performance. The moment Meat opened the beer bottle the audience seemed to be excited about what was going to happen next. Speaking of beer bottles, it was stunning to see what you can achieve and express with rather ordinary means, LOL.

It wasn't like with HCTB with Meat telling a story first and expecting people to relate it to the songs on the album (something I consider annoying, by the way). In this case, the story was revealed by the performance only and it was fun to hear the music in that context.

Meat's shows have always been more like theater performances than just rock concerts and I appreciate that he comes up with new ideas. What's wrong with being a little creative?