Another new album? - Page 6

Evil One · 24 Aug 2010, 20:42

That again reinforces the thought that Patrick was a bad idea.

PanicLord · 24 Aug 2010, 22:48

GET THE HOUSE PAINT NOW MEAT!!!

I love the whole concept album idea, think Patrick's story was an original and fascinating basis for an album, was genuinely excited to download parts of the story from the web, and love being able to listen to the whole album as if it was a musical of Patrick's imaginary future life.

I love all the tracks on HCTB, the diversity of music, the vocals, the production, and believe it features some of Meat's best songs. I like the fact that it was an album, not just a collection of singles.

I love the creativity behind it, the effort put in, and the courage Meat showed in making such a different and new sounding piece of music compared to his tradional style.

I'm thrilled to hear that we will be getting another album next year, which presumably means that the record company were also happy with how the album performed commercially.

So really, I'm just enormously positive about the whole thing.

But can you still come and paint BUM on my house please Meat - because that would be awesome?

duke knooby · 24 Aug 2010, 23:41

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

Man of steel was a bad bad song. Do you know anything about lyrics the second verse of that song is the worst thing I have ever sung.
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i must confess, i haven't found hang cool to be a deep lyrical/musical masterpiece of work, though i have not read any of the marketing story as its "suggestion" hence i fail to see it as a concept.

but i really would have thought that lyrically, "do it" was worse than the 2nd verse of man of steel.

however, i can't say a bad thing about hang cool either, as its a great current rock record.. which by definition, sounds alot like other great current rock records

then again... i could be wrong

madagascar · 24 Aug 2010, 23:46

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Originally Posted by duke knooby

i must confess, i haven't found hang cool to be a deep lyrical/musical masterpiece of work, though i have not read any of the marketing story as its "suggestion" hence i fail to see it as a concept.

but i really would have thought that lyrically, "do it" was worse than the 2nd verse of man of steel.

however, i can't say a bad thing about hang cool either, as its a great current rock record.. which by definition, sounds alot like other great current rock records

then again... i could be wrong

Hm, I really enjoy 'Do it' and I like the lyrics.

duke knooby · 24 Aug 2010, 23:52

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Originally Posted by madagascar

Hm, I really enjoy 'Do it' and I like the lyrics.

which is great, and thats the beauty of music... almost everyone enjoys it, (just different bits)

hence i said i could be wrong

back on topic!!!!!!!!!!!

Elijah's way · 25 Aug 2010, 08:15

To answer your question Meat I don't know about lyrics as much as you do but I do know a little and I think Man Of Steel is one of your best songs. And I never said I don't like HCTB I love it. The best you've done in years the only thing I said about it was I'm not too keen on LA and LAR but they are good songs. I just wish you would execpt my apology and stop insulting me every chance you get it's starting too hurt my feelings. And the worst lyrics you've ever sang was Bad For Goog IMO.

Evil One · 25 Aug 2010, 09:54

Yes, Bad For Goog is terrible. Bad For Good in the 80's on the other hand was one of Meat's best. The Bat 3 version, while still good, it wasn't as good.

AndrewG · 25 Aug 2010, 09:59

Can't really think of many Steinman songs that have bad lyrics. If anything on Bad for Good could be considered containing weak lyrics it would have to be Stark Raving Love I would have thought and even then it has a kick ass guitar duel to make up for it.

Wario · 25 Aug 2010, 10:16

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Can't really think of many Steinman songs that have bad lyrics. If anything on Bad for Good could be considered containing weak lyrics it would have to be Stark Raving Love I would have thought and even then it has a kick ass guitar duel to make up for it.

Have you listened to the songs from the play More Then You Deserve?

Danny · 25 Aug 2010, 10:22

Help - I need another new album - speedy
This morning I get in my car turn the music on (HCTB - of course) and waht did that shit car radio

it eat and crashed one of my HCTB CD´s

I said "Spit it out" damn CD-player but nothing happend

Yeah I know your reaction -women and technical stuf-
Now I can only hear a old tape -yes right a tape from 1993 Bat II which is used up but I need good music it is particularly important when driving and the local radio station play every hour Lady Gaga with Alejandro

that´s driving me crazy

OK and now back to the topic
On the official german fan side "songwriters" we could continue the story from Patrick (sounds interesting for Sarge?)
My story has a happy end in the hardware store where Patrick work

aww soppy

It would be wonderful to see and hear how the story continue. Maybe I´m a fan from the category who love everything what Meat Loaf do and I really love every song from HCTB it´s a perfect rock album with all what I expect from a Meat Loaf album -fresh rock music, good lyrics and emotion, emotion, emotion... that´s why another new album that continue the story would be the absolut clou

I´m very curious about it.

PS: Meat, I dont can say any bad things about HCTB, but my house needs a mew coat of paint

With your nonstandard creation it would be the hippest house in town.

AndrewG · 25 Aug 2010, 10:23

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Have you listened to the songs from the play More Then You Deserve?

I don't consider bootlegs official releases so I don't expect much of that type of shit. I'm sure Jim's first songs were crap whenever he started writing, probably all writers will have to go through that to get good. Anyway he got at least 1 really good song I know of out of that early musical obviously.

Sarge · 25 Aug 2010, 10:35

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Originally Posted by Danny

On the official german fan side "songwriters" we could continue the story from Patrick (sounds interesting for Sarge?)

I read the contributions and I have to say that I liked some of them much better than the original story.

As far as I remember you could win a M&G if you took part - what has become of that? Wonder where and when that is going to take place because at the moment we don't know if and when Meat will come to Germany.

wolfy35 · 25 Aug 2010, 10:42

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Originally Posted by Evil One

That again reinforces the thought that Patrick was a bad idea.

PATRICK was a brilliant idea, Not only is PATRICK the central charactor in the storyline but the name PATRICK also has the effect of winding up some people who dont seem to like the name PATRICK.

Maybe we should start a poll on what Meat should call this new album

I suggest PATRICKs adventures in PATRICKland

hope nobody thinks I slipped the name in there on purpose

Sarge · 25 Aug 2010, 10:46

Obviously someone wants to be put on top of my black list?

Danny · 25 Aug 2010, 10:49

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Originally Posted by Sarge

I read the contributions and I have to say that I liked some of them much better than the original story.

As far as I remember you could win a M&G if you took part - what has become of that? Wonder where and when that is going to take place because at the moment we don't know if and when Meat will come to Germany.

Do you like my story

The winner was the story where Patrick and Jenny are brothers and sisters

- I dont like this story, because I dont think that any brother had such feelings for his sister

Sarge · 25 Aug 2010, 11:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

The winner was the story where Patrick and Jenny are brothers and sisters

They decided for the most soap opera like ending, LOL.

There were also some rather dark versions which I liked. It was very interesting to see the ideas people came up with (whether soppy

or morbid) and I think there were stories that were more inventive than the one Universal picked as the winner.

I considered for a moment if I should take part, too, just for fun, but I'm lazy and my story would have probably turned out very morbid and maybe it would have contained a lot of black humor. I had to write short stories at university and the prof said: "That's awesome... but meeeaaaaaaan." Maybe poor Patrick is lucky that I didn't mess around with his fate.

I'm not impressed by the original story but if it triggers people's creativity I don't feel the urge to say something nasty about it at this point.

nikox1 · 25 Aug 2010, 18:16

the main thing is we are getting a new Meat Loaf album!! he can call it what he wants? im just glad that he still wants to make good music

stretch37 · 25 Aug 2010, 18:31

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Originally Posted by nikox1

the main thing is we are getting a new Meat Loaf album!! he can call it what he wants? im just glad that he still wants to make good music

me too, can't wait to hear it, i really dont care about the specifics im just stoked that Meat actually wants to make a new album that soon!

stretch37 · 25 Aug 2010, 18:38

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Originally Posted by Fire Ball

I love Pearl but Man of steel was a bad bad song. Do you know anything about lyrics the second verse of that song is the worst thing I have ever sung. HCTB is a great great record and some of you need to get out of your little tiny box that you live in. Peace on earth got a standing ovation last night. HCTB is a screen play. The songs work so well . Really if I hear another person saying anything bad about HCTB , I will find you and paint your house bright green with yellow stripes. With the word Bum on the front in RED. Enroll in a poetry
class please and learn about the art of the written word. Acting class and learn the art of truth. Go out on the street and just look around , take off the blinders. Live people Live. Get out of your Hole, it's dark in there. Think of HCTB as a new Alice in Hollywood. Listen to the record, really listen. The only reason not to, is because it scares you. JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT IT WAS SAFE TO PLAY THE CD. WHO KNOWS WHAT LURKS IN THE DARK !! SCARED !! The only reason you like PFL is because it wasn't on the CD. It said the same thing as "living on the Outside" and that told you who Patrick was as a human being !! Yes Patrick !
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HCTB is a great record, so get out there and book more shows so more people can know it exists!!!

They deserve to hear how amazing it sounds!

PanicLord · 25 Aug 2010, 19:41

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Can't really think of many Steinman songs that have bad lyrics. If anything on Bad for Good could be considered containing weak lyrics it would have to be Stark Raving Love I would have thought and even then it has a kick ass guitar duel to make up for it.

Dance In My Pants. Surely the very definition of bad lyrics? Dont get me wrong, I love the tune, and the lyrics are fun. But good? No.

AndrewG · 25 Aug 2010, 19:45

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Originally Posted by PanicLord

Dance In My Pants. Surely the very definition of bad lyrics? Dont get me wrong, I love the tune, and the lyrics are fun. But good? No.

I wouldn't say the lyrics are necessarily bad in that song, there are plenty of them.

Perhaps the idea wasn't fantastic. Jim clearly tried to re-incarnate Paradise here, but with a more fun and less dramatic approach. I love some of the lyrics.
"And I don't ever want to be rescued
I don't ever want to be saved
I got a feeling that I'm gonna be alive forever
Dancing on the edge of a grave"

I actually think the song needed a more grand title / chorus line rather than "dance in my pants". Having the word "pants" in any title isn't a good idea imo.

Evil One · 25 Aug 2010, 20:01

It's got the makings of a good song, but it's not the finished article. It feels like Jim ran out of ideas and went with what he had ready.

Wario · 25 Aug 2010, 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG

I don't consider bootlegs official releases so I don't expect much of that type of shit. I'm sure Jim's first songs were crap whenever he started writing, probably all writers will have to go through that to get good. Anyway he got at least 1 really good song I know of out of that early musical obviously.

Bootleg recording or not he wrote those songs and they were officially published and forked with copyright as that is a must for a show to even begin production.

So in that case the songs were officially released, the recording is not

PanicLord · 26 Aug 2010, 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One

It's got the makings of a good song, but it's not the finished article. It feels like Jim ran out of ideas and went with what he had ready.

I agree. Great tune, rushed lyrics.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG

I wouldn't say the lyrics are necessarily bad in that song, there are plenty of them.

Perhaps the idea wasn't fantastic. Jim clearly tried to re-incarnate Paradise here, but with a more fun and less dramatic approach. I love some of the lyrics.
"And I don't ever want to be rescued
I don't ever want to be saved
I got a feeling that I'm gonna be alive forever
Dancing on the edge of a grave"

Yes, that bit is quite good. And there are also other quite cool bits. But it's a collection of quite good bits with some embarassingly naff bits in between.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG

I actually think the song needed a more grand title / chorus line rather than "dance in my pants". Having the word "pants" in any title isn't a good idea imo.

Yes, that's what kills all the credibility of the song for me. It's just so dumb and naff.

I think these bits suck:

"When I woke up this morning and I looked out my window I could see that it was cloudy and grey." Oooh the drama.

"I got a dance in my pants". Creepy pervy. Yuk sick barf.

"No way Jose" and that whole spoken bit in the middle. Just make it stop, please.

The insane cackling at the end. No, NO, NOOOOO!!

Pudding · 26 Aug 2010, 00:35

HCTB 'story' sucks, unless you're a hardcore Meat Loaf fan, I don't think outside of Loafdom you're really going to give two tuppence about the Patrick side of things.

PFL is a really good song and if it's lyrically similar to LOTO then LOTO should have been given the boot from the album.

25 Aug 2010, 08:15	#131
Elijah's way Soul Auctioneer Join Date: 26.06.2005 Location: Muscle Shoals, AL Posts: 1,529	To answer your question Meat I don't know about lyrics as much as you do but I do know a little and I think Man Of Steel is one of your best songs. And I never said I don't like HCTB I love it. The best you've done in years the only thing I said about it was I'm not too keen on LA and LAR but they are good songs. I just wish you would execpt my apology and stop insulting me every chance you get it's starting too hurt my feelings. And the worst lyrics you've ever sang was Bad For Goog IMO. Last edited by Elijah's way; 25 Aug 2010 at 08:24.

24 Aug 2010, 20:42	#126
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	That again reinforces the thought that Patrick was a bad idea.

24 Aug 2010, 22:48	#127
PanicLord Mega Loafer Join Date: 18.06.2003 Location: At The End Of The Line Posts: 2,654	GET THE HOUSE PAINT NOW MEAT!!! I love the whole concept album idea, think Patrick's story was an original and fascinating basis for an album, was genuinely excited to download parts of the story from the web, and love being able to listen to the whole album as if it was a musical of Patrick's imaginary future life. I love all the tracks on HCTB, the diversity of music, the vocals, the production, and believe it features some of Meat's best songs. I like the fact that it was an album, not just a collection of singles. I love the creativity behind it, the effort put in, and the courage Meat showed in making such a different and new sounding piece of music compared to his tradional style. I'm thrilled to hear that we will be getting another album next year, which presumably means that the record company were also happy with how the album performed commercially. So really, I'm just enormously positive about the whole thing. But can you still come and paint BUM on my house please Meat - because that would be awesome?

25 Aug 2010, 09:54	#132
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	Yes, Bad For Goog is terrible. Bad For Good in the 80's on the other hand was one of Meat's best. The Bat 3 version, while still good, it wasn't as good.

25 Aug 2010, 09:59	#133
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,083	Can't really think of many Steinman songs that have bad lyrics. If anything on Bad for Good could be considered containing weak lyrics it would have to be Stark Raving Love I would have thought and even then it has a kick ass guitar duel to make up for it.

25 Aug 2010, 10:22	#135
Danny Super Loafer Join Date: 07.07.2010 Location: Germany Posts: 292	Help - I need another new album - speedy This morning I get in my car turn the music on (HCTB - of course) and waht did that shit car radio it eat and crashed one of my HCTB CD´s I said "Spit it out" damn CD-player but nothing happend Yeah I know your reaction -women and technical stuf- Now I can only hear a old tape -yes right a tape from 1993 Bat II which is used up but I need good music it is particularly important when driving and the local radio station play every hour Lady Gaga with Alejandro that´s driving me crazy OK and now back to the topic On the official german fan side "songwriters" we could continue the story from Patrick (sounds interesting for Sarge?) My story has a happy end in the hardware store where Patrick work aww soppy It would be wonderful to see and hear how the story continue. Maybe I´m a fan from the category who love everything what Meat Loaf do and I really love every song from HCTB it´s a perfect rock album with all what I expect from a Meat Loaf album -fresh rock music, good lyrics and emotion, emotion, emotion... that´s why another new album that continue the story would be the absolut clou I´m very curious about it. PS: Meat, I dont can say any bad things about HCTB, but my house needs a mew coat of paint With your nonstandard creation it would be the hippest house in town.

25 Aug 2010, 10:46	#139
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	Obviously someone wants to be put on top of my black list?

25 Aug 2010, 18:16	#142
nikox1 Mega Loafer Join Date: 05.07.2007 Location: Front line of the battle Posts: 2,657	the main thing is we are getting a new Meat Loaf album!! he can call it what he wants? im just glad that he still wants to make good music

25 Aug 2010, 20:01	#147
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	It's got the makings of a good song, but it's not the finished article. It feels like Jim ran out of ideas and went with what he had ready.

26 Aug 2010, 00:35	#150
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	HCTB 'story' sucks, unless you're a hardcore Meat Loaf fan, I don't think outside of Loafdom you're really going to give two tuppence about the Patrick side of things. PFL is a really good song and if it's lyrically similar to LOTO then LOTO should have been given the boot from the album.