Meat Loaf Live In Toronto 1993

Paul Richardson · 16 Jan 2011, 23:03

I could've chosen links to any of half a dozen tracks from this concert because there all ~~~~ing amazing, but here's AFL ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV4CF...eature=related

... not the greatest of (audience) recordings but Meat is in incredible form.

Why, oh why, oh why, oh why, is there no official DVD release of a concert from this era ?

A pro shot version of this would kick the arse of MSO.

Thanks to Wario for posting.

Evil One · 16 Jan 2011, 23:19

I couldn't agree more. Despite the MSO concert being akin to riding a bombastic tidal wave along a rollercoaster of wonder and awe and a breathtaking piece of cinematography from beginning to end, a Bat 2 tour DVD would

on it from a great height.

As far as I'm aware, one of the Hudson Theater shows (with Jim) was filmed, but footage has so far not surfaced. The Netherlands show as featured on the Classic Albums DVD was filmed, but the set list was trimmed slightly. Then there is the History Of Meat Loaf Live show which is the likely candidate for DVD release, but featured even less songs and Meat ballsed up the second verse of Anything For Love. But did do Roll Over Beethoven as an encore.

Wario · 16 Jan 2011, 23:21

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Originally Posted by Evil One

As far as I'm aware, one of the Hudson Theater shows (with Jim) was filmed, but footage has so far not surfaced. The Netherlands show as featured on the Classic Albums DVD was filmed, but the set list was trimmed slightly. Then there is the History Of Meat Loaf Live show which is the likely candidate for DVD release, but featured even less songs and Meat ballsed up the second verse of Anything For Love. But did do Roll Over Beethoven as an encore.

and the Prince's Trust was filmed as well.

duke knooby · 16 Jan 2011, 23:23

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Originally Posted by Paul Richardson

Why, oh why, oh why, oh why, is there no official DVD release of a concert from this era ?

A pro shot version of this would kick the arse of MSO.

dunno, wish there was

and.. yes!!

Evil One · 16 Jan 2011, 23:24

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

and the Prince's Trust was filmed as well.

I'd forgotten that. So that's four potential concerts.

AndrewG · 16 Jan 2011, 23:30

There's probably more than that I'm guessing if the ponies haven't eaten the tapes.

Evil One · 16 Jan 2011, 23:32

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

There's probably more than that I'm guessing if the ponies haven't eaten the tapes.

Quite possibly. Only a fool wouldn't stock up on footage of their huge, career reviving comeback tour.

Paul Richardson · 16 Jan 2011, 23:37

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Despite the MSO concert being akin to riding a bombastic tidal wave along a rollercoaster of wonder and awe and a breathtaking piece of cinematography from beginning to end, a Bat 2 tour DVD would

on it from a great height.

Steady ...

As good as MSO is, IMO Meat sang better in the late 80s / early 90s so personally I'd prefer this / Hudson / Netherlands for my orgasmic roller coaster ride of joy.

Plus just after Bat 2 you had only Bat1 / Bat2 songs in the set so no inferior albums to promote with

songs in there. Heaven ...

Wario · 16 Jan 2011, 23:42

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Originally Posted by Paul Richardson

Steady ...

As good as MSO is, IMO Meat sang better in the late 80s / early 90s so personally I'd prefer this / Hudson / Netherlands for my orgasmic roller coaster ride of joy.

Plus just after Bat 2 you had only Bat1 / Bat2 songs in the set so no inferior albums to promote with

songs in there. Heaven ...

trust me. you WONT prefer Netherlands 1994 to MSO. Just sayin'.

Evil One · 16 Jan 2011, 23:44

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

trust me. you WONT prefer Netherlands 1994 to MSO. Just sayin'.

I agree. It's certainly not Meat at his best. Hudson Theater would get the vote from me. If I had any sway over such things, which I don't.

**SueW** · 17 Jan 2011, 00:44

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

and the Prince's Trust was filmed as well.

Was it?

The whole concert from the Albert Hall in November 1994 or just Life Is A Lemon from Sheffield that month?

Sarge · 17 Jan 2011, 03:37

Wasted Youth is awesome. Jim Steinman should have been on stage more often. Meat appears so cool and full of energy - the incarnation of Rock & Roll. I especially like his screams during Lemon, although I've never liked that song much. It's strange that no live footage from that time has ever officially been released (aside from three songs on the Bat II Picture Show VHS), considering how popular Meat was at that time.

Wario · 17 Jan 2011, 10:23

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Originally Posted by SueW

Was it?

The whole concert from the Albert Hall in November 1994 or just Life Is A Lemon from Sheffield that month?

Being as in 1994 Lemon was towards the begining of the set and the intro "thank you" was taken from Heaven Can Wait which was towards the end, Id say yes, the majority at least was filmed.

renegadeangel · 17 Jan 2011, 10:50

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Quite possibly. Only a fool wouldn't stock up on footage of their huge, career reviving comeback tour.

An even bigger question would be if there may not come a time to do with Meat what was done with Bruce Springsteen and the Darkness sessions. I'm sure your right that there is film that is sitting around waiting to be put together, but I would have to wonder if there are any songs that were going to go on the album but got cut.
In an interview Meat said that Jim wrote AFL and a year later wrote Objects. I wonder if there were maybe a few songs that never made it. A DATE WITH DESTINY comes to mind.
A BAT 2 retrospective would be amazing.

**SueW** · 17 Jan 2011, 10:55

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Being as in 1994 Lemon was towards the begining of the set and the intro "thank you" was taken from Heaven Can Wait which was towards the end, Id say yes, the majority at least was filmed.

If all you've seen filmed is Lemon and the thank yous then it was as I thought and that wasn't from the Meat Loaf Prince's Trust Concert.

On 17th November 1994 Meat Loaf performed a whole concert at the Royal Albert Hall where all proceeds went to the Prince's Trust (in fact the tickets said it was the Prince's Trust Concert). Prince Charles attended and sat in the Royal Box but I don't think he stayed for the whole concert. (He was introduced to Meat Loaf and the band before the concert.)

That was the first concert of the tour and later they played Sheffield on 22nd, 29th and 30th November and at one of those 3 concerts (I can't remember offhad which) they filmed Life Is A Lemon specifically with the thank you in it which Meat Loaf said that evening was for The Prince's Trust concert which was screened on TV as part of a big Prince's Trust concert programme.

samurai7 · 17 Jan 2011, 11:00

Does anyone remember a program from the 94ish era, something to do with Virgin or EMI in which they showed various artists on the label performing live, including Meat doing 'Objects'? I'm sure it was released on VHS too.

Evil One · 17 Jan 2011, 11:11

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Originally Posted by SueW

That was the first concert of the tour and later they played Sheffield on 22nd, 29th and 30th November and at one of those 3 concerts (I can't remember offhad which) they filmed Life Is A Lemon specifically with the thank you in it which Meat Loaf said that evening was for The Prince's Trust concert which was screened on TV as part of a big Prince's Trust concert programme.

Were the cameras recording for the whole show or did they specifically come out for that one song? It seems strange to do such a 'negative' song for a charity event, when something uplifting like Rock And Roll Dreams would be better suited.

**SueW** · 17 Jan 2011, 11:21

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Were the cameras recording for the whole show or did they specifically come out for that one song? It seems strange to do such a 'negative' song for a charity event, when something uplifting like Rock And Roll Dreams would be better suited.

I'm pretty sure they only filmed the one song.

Paul Richardson · 17 Jan 2011, 23:18

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Trust me. You WONT prefer Netherlands 1994 to MSO

May be you could do a montage type thing so we could all decide for ourselves which one of three / four Bat 2 concerts should be released as a DVD. Just a thought...

Wario · 17 Jan 2011, 23:24

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Originally Posted by Paul Richardson

May be you could do a montage type thing so we could all decide for ourselves which one of three / four Bat 2 concerts should be released as a DVD. Just a thought...

keep a look out for a thread. thats a brilliant idea.

Paul Richardson · 17 Jan 2011, 23:39

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Thats a brilliant idea.

Well, I try ...

I look forward to it.

loaferman61 · 18 Jan 2011, 00:10

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Originally Posted by SueW

Prince Charles attended and sat in the Royal Box but I don't think he stayed for the whole concert. (He was introduced to Meat Loaf and the band before the concert.)

Shame on Prince Charles, that seems rude. Did he not find it good enough to sit through 2 hours or so.

Wario · 18 Jan 2011, 01:12

ah this montage is more complex then I thought. i cant deal with it right now when I have 430 videos to make back.

PM sent to you paul

Paul Richardson · 19 Jan 2011, 00:33

Wario, thanks for PM. I think you have a point.

Still think this could at least be a poll with some examples from said concerts ?

Wario · 19 Jan 2011, 00:41

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Originally Posted by Paul Richardson

Still think this could at least be a poll with some examples from said concerts ?

no point, regardless of examples everyone (including me) will pick the one where Jim was involved: Hudson Theater 1993.

Unless Im mistaken

16 Jan 2011, 23:03	#1
Paul Richardson Super Loafer Join Date: 16.05.2010 Posts: 535	Meat Loaf Live In Toronto 1993 I could've chosen links to any of half a dozen tracks from this concert because there all ~~~~ing amazing, but here's AFL ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV4CF...eature=related ... not the greatest of (audience) recordings but Meat is in incredible form. Why, oh why, oh why, oh why, is there no official DVD release of a concert from this era ? A pro shot version of this would kick the arse of MSO. Thanks to Wario for posting.

16 Jan 2011, 23:19	#2
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	I couldn't agree more. Despite the MSO concert being akin to riding a bombastic tidal wave along a rollercoaster of wonder and awe and a breathtaking piece of cinematography from beginning to end, a Bat 2 tour DVD would on it from a great height. As far as I'm aware, one of the Hudson Theater shows (with Jim) was filmed, but footage has so far not surfaced. The Netherlands show as featured on the Classic Albums DVD was filmed, but the set list was trimmed slightly. Then there is the History Of Meat Loaf Live show which is the likely candidate for DVD release, but featured even less songs and Meat ballsed up the second verse of Anything For Love. But did do Roll Over Beethoven as an encore.

16 Jan 2011, 23:30	#6
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,081	There's probably more than that I'm guessing if the ponies haven't eaten the tapes.

17 Jan 2011, 03:37	#12
Sarge Mega Loafer Join Date: 08.05.2008 Posts: 3,562	Wasted Youth is awesome. Jim Steinman should have been on stage more often. Meat appears so cool and full of energy - the incarnation of Rock & Roll. I especially like his screams during Lemon, although I've never liked that song much. It's strange that no live footage from that time has ever officially been released (aside from three songs on the Bat II Picture Show VHS), considering how popular Meat was at that time.

17 Jan 2011, 11:00	#16
samurai7 Rock Star Join Date: 09.05.2005 Location: The future... Posts: 2,928	Does anyone remember a program from the 94ish era, something to do with Virgin or EMI in which they showed various artists on the label performing live, including Meat doing 'Objects'? I'm sure it was released on VHS too.

18 Jan 2011, 01:12	#23
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	ah this montage is more complex then I thought. i cant deal with it right now when I have 430 videos to make back. PM sent to you paul

19 Jan 2011, 00:33	#24
Paul Richardson Super Loafer Join Date: 16.05.2010 Posts: 535	Wario, thanks for PM. I think you have a point. Still think this could at least be a poll with some examples from said concerts ?