Meat Loaf & Jennifer Hudson. - Page 2

madagascar · 16 Feb 2011, 23:44

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Originally Posted by Lucy!

Agreed. I love Future and it was one of the songs I'd always hoped Meat would do, but I really don't like the Bat III version. Love Meat on it, stunning vocal from him, but I'm reaching for the Skip Track button as soon as Jennifer Hudson comes in...she has a great voice but it wasn't appropriate for this song at all, I found it way too shouty

Where's Wario when you need him?

Come on dude we need a ''Jennifer-Hudson-is-nowhere-to-be-seen-and-heared'' Remix!

Evil One · 17 Feb 2011, 00:03

Jennifer Hudson should never have been on that song for another reason as far as I'm concerned. It's not a duet!

Paul Richardson · 17 Feb 2011, 00:18

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Jennifer Hudson should never have been on that song for another reason as far as I'm concerned. It's not a duet!

Its not a duet but Meat appears to like to turn songs that aren't into one - IACBTMN ?

Sarge · 17 Feb 2011, 01:29

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Originally Posted by Evil One

It's not a duet!

Exactly. The same goes for IACBTM. I hate to say it but I like the other versions (incl. Celine Dion's

) better than Meat's. Turning those songs into duets weakened them. Maybe that obsession with duets is the curse of the success of Anything?

And why that many different duet partners? Unlike Patti, Marion Raven and Jennifer Hudson don't have much to do with Meat Loaf. The whole album did not appear like a Meat Loaf album, more than somebody else's project Meat Loaf just contributed vocals to.

JennaG · 17 Feb 2011, 09:28

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Originally Posted by Lucy!

Agreed. I love Future and it was one of the songs I'd always hoped Meat would do, but I really don't like the Bat III version. Love Meat on it, stunning vocal from him, but I'm reaching for the Skip Track button as soon as Jennifer Hudson comes in...she has a great voice but it wasn't appropriate for this song at all, I found it way too shouty

I totally agree. To me it seemed like she was trying to overpower him. As almost as if to say 'I'll show you that I can sing just as powerfully as he can'.

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Originally Posted by Sarge

The whole album did not appear like a Meat Loaf album, more than somebody else's project Meat Loaf just contributed vocals to.

Yeah it was Desmond Child's project, not Meat Loaf's. He seemed to want to get his name in wherever he could.

I looked at the inlay booklet the other day and you know how the artist usually has a couple of paragraphs with their 'thank yous'? Bat III had thank yous from Desmond Child and nothing from Meat.

nikox1 · 17 Feb 2011, 16:40

Miss Hudson could never out power THE LOAF

,, well in the end Meat explained alot about the Bat 3 project, and its been talked to death. has our dear Desmond done much since?

Wario · 17 Feb 2011, 18:50

while we are on the subject of jen hudson, id like to point out regardless if you like her on the track or not, 2006 was her big year. if Future got single treatment maybe that would've been smart instead of taking risks with the unknown Marion Raven.

Then again that's been brought up before.

you may think im crazy with this, but I find Jen's voice very gospel-like and think it works well. I would've loved to hear her and Meat duet on Testify. if any song needs duet treatment, thats a great gospel duet right there.

Sarge · 17 Feb 2011, 19:10

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Originally Posted by Skybird14

To me it seemed like she was trying to overpower him.

That's what bothers me the most about the song. I hear two people scream (Jennifer Hudson more than Meat) but they don't seem to sing with each other. Just power without true emotion. The Future... actually is a fantastic song but the Bat III version is pretty annoying, in my opinion. Jennifer Hudson is an amazing singer but somehow out of place on this one.

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Originally Posted by Skybird14

Yeah it was Desmond Child's project, not Meat Loaf's. He seemed to want to get his name in wherever he could.

I looked at the inlay booklet the other day and you know how the artist usually has a couple of paragraphs with their 'thank yous'? Bat III had thank yous from Desmond Child and nothing from Meat.

I suspected something like that once I saw his pic in the booklet. Even in the promo trailer and "making of" you hardly see anything of Meat. It made me feel uncomfortable about the album, I always had the feeling as if there was something "wrong".

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

you may think im crazy with this, but I find Jen's voice very gospel-like and think it works well. I would've loved to hear her and Meat duet on Testify. if any song needs duet treatment, thats a great gospel duet right there.

That would probably work well. Although I'd rather like to hear Aretha Franklin or Tina Turner on that. Testify deserves to be played live again, by the way.

**allrevvedup** · 17 Feb 2011, 19:14

That version is, unfortunately, not something that I even want to consider listening to.

Had it been on Bat II it might've worked with just Meat on his own, but the original version and Patti Russo's effort are far superior as far as I'm concerned.

duke knooby · 17 Feb 2011, 20:35

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Originally Posted by Skybird14

I looked at the inlay booklet the other day and you know how the artist usually has a couple of paragraphs with their 'thank yous'? Bat III had thank yous from Desmond Child and nothing from Meat.

i assumed the dedication on the back cover of the inlay was from meat

"for 30 years of friendship and inspiration. bat out of hell III is dedicated to jim steinman"

BostonAngel · 17 Feb 2011, 21:55

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Originally Posted by Sarge

......That's what bothers me the most about the song. I hear two people scream (Jennifer Hudson more than Meat) but they don't seem to sing with each other. Just power without true emotion. The Future... actually is a fantastic song but the Bat III version is pretty annoying, in my opinion. Jennifer Hudson is an amazing singer but somehow out of place on this one.........

I pretty much agree with this! To be honest, I didn't think that Meat and Jennifer were even in the same studio recording this song until I saw the video. It sounded as if he recorded his version, she recorded her part and then they were mixed together in the studio. I think The Future is an awesome song. I think Jennifer Hudson is a talented and powerful singer. It just didn't quite all come together on the recording of this song.

duke knooby · 17 Feb 2011, 23:38

anyway, dug out the original posters video... and i'll make it very clear i have absolutely no idea what happened in the studio, so the following is nothing more than my possible misguided opinion...

it seems pretty clear to me from the clip, they are not recording anything, just miming to an already completed recording, purely for promotional reasons... hence my lack of awe to the video...

ive no idea if both vocalists recorded at the same time in the same studio, or not.

what is known (ish), is which organisation put it on the tube, when they did it, and what they called it...

and here it is..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdCiZsbrsXQ

Sue K · 18 Feb 2011, 14:34

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Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

you may think im crazy with this, but I find Jen's voice very gospel-like and think it works well.

Then I'm crazy with you, WarieL, because I feel similar. It' my favorite song on the album and Bat 3 is still my favorite Bat. It suited me for my age then and still does. It's in the rotation of meatie albums I take with me to listen to at work. In fact, I think I'll take them along with me today ...

...

OH and ps, I bothers me no end that whenever I've seen JH anywhere in interview, I've never heard her mention Meat. Maybe she did and I missed it ? Has any one ever heard her mention him ? As a Meat fan, that bothers me.

Smithie · 18 Feb 2011, 17:02

This song is a good example of why guest artists rarely work. Just because someone is a great singer does not mean her/his voice will sound great next to Meat's voice. I would love to hear a solo version of this song by Meat or a version with Meat and Patti.

CarylB · 18 Feb 2011, 17:44

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Originally Posted by tink

Then I'm crazy with you, WarieL, because I feel similar.

So do I .. I think that "gospel" sound fits the song perfectly, and it's one of my favourite tracks as well. To me it's two strong voices matching each other well with passion packed into it. Love it

Caryl

24K · 19 Feb 2011, 12:49

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Originally Posted by CarylB

So do I .. I think that "gospel" sound fits the song perfectly, and it's one of my favourite tracks as well. To me it's two strong voices matching each other well with passion packed into it. Love it

Caryl

I agree, i love the Gospel sound on the song, its part of the appeal for me, i think it is one great duet, personal tastes i guess.

Vickip · 19 Feb 2011, 14:45

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Originally Posted by 24K

I agree, i love the Gospel sound on the song, its part of the appeal for me, i think it is one great duet, personal tastes i guess.

I second that.

LucyK! · 19 Feb 2011, 15:22

I agree with the gospel thing, and I like the gospel, but for me it could just do with toning down a little. We know Jennifer has a powerful voice but I think in this case less would have been more. In my opinion.

Pudding · 19 Feb 2011, 21:05

I'm agreeing with the gospel thingy, but for it to work properly then it needs to be just Jennifer, as she does gospel and Meat doesn't. Would love to hear a solo effort from her.

Evil One · 19 Feb 2011, 21:08

I don't necessarily agree with that. I thought Testify was pretty shit hot. Jennifer Hudson doing the Future solo would probably be similar to the Pandora's Box version, so why try to duplicate excellence? I'd rather hear Patti's version with full instrumentation.

CarylB · 19 Feb 2011, 21:18

Yes, Meat did a great gospel sound in Testify! He can not only act the ass off a gospel preacher role .. he has a great voice for a gospel type song, and Testify was marvellous.

Caryl

LucyK! · 19 Feb 2011, 21:19

Testify was great, Testify live with MSO...immense, that version is stunning!

**The Flying Mouse** · 19 Feb 2011, 21:30

He does a mean American Trillogy too

Pudding · 19 Feb 2011, 21:33

Apart from Elvis, not many white singers can do gospel justice. And apart from the beginning bit of Testify, I'd say the song is anything but gospel.

CarylB · 19 Feb 2011, 21:41

That's your view. Not the view of some of us. Pointless to argue the toss.

17 Feb 2011, 16:40	#31
nikox1 Mega Loafer Join Date: 05.07.2007 Location: Front line of the battle Posts: 2,657	Miss Hudson could never out power THE LOAF,, well in the end Meat explained alot about the Bat 3 project, and its been talked to death. has our dear Desmond done much since?

17 Feb 2011, 00:03	#27
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	Jennifer Hudson should never have been on that song for another reason as far as I'm concerned. It's not a duet!

17 Feb 2011, 18:50	#32
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	while we are on the subject of jen hudson, id like to point out regardless if you like her on the track or not, 2006 was her big year. if Future got single treatment maybe that would've been smart instead of taking risks with the unknown Marion Raven. Then again that's been brought up before. you may think im crazy with this, but I find Jen's voice very gospel-like and think it works well. I would've loved to hear her and Meat duet on Testify. if any song needs duet treatment, thats a great gospel duet right there.

17 Feb 2011, 19:14	#34
allrevvedup "Most things that i worry about, never happen anyway" Join Date: 29.11.2003 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,356	That version is, unfortunately, not something that I even want to consider listening to. Had it been on Bat II it might've worked with just Meat on his own, but the original version and Patti Russo's effort are far superior as far as I'm concerned.

17 Feb 2011, 23:38	#37
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,891	anyway, dug out the original posters video... and i'll make it very clear i have absolutely no idea what happened in the studio, so the following is nothing more than my possible misguided opinion... it seems pretty clear to me from the clip, they are not recording anything, just miming to an already completed recording, purely for promotional reasons... hence my lack of awe to the video... ive no idea if both vocalists recorded at the same time in the same studio, or not. what is known (ish), is which organisation put it on the tube, when they did it, and what they called it... and here it is.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdCiZsbrsXQ

18 Feb 2011, 17:02	#39
Smithie Super Loafer Join Date: 11.08.2009 Posts: 756	This song is a good example of why guest artists rarely work. Just because someone is a great singer does not mean her/his voice will sound great next to Meat's voice. I would love to hear a solo version of this song by Meat or a version with Meat and Patti.

19 Feb 2011, 15:22	#43
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	I agree with the gospel thing, and I like the gospel, but for me it could just do with toning down a little. We know Jennifer has a powerful voice but I think in this case less would have been more. In my opinion.

19 Feb 2011, 21:05	#44
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	I'm agreeing with the gospel thingy, but for it to work properly then it needs to be just Jennifer, as she does gospel and Meat doesn't. Would love to hear a solo effort from her.

19 Feb 2011, 21:08	#45
Evil One Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.01.2007 Posts: 5,193	I don't necessarily agree with that. I thought Testify was pretty shit hot. Jennifer Hudson doing the Future solo would probably be similar to the Pandora's Box version, so why try to duplicate excellence? I'd rather hear Patti's version with full instrumentation.

19 Feb 2011, 21:18	#46
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	Yes, Meat did a great gospel sound in Testify! He can not only act the ass off a gospel preacher role .. he has a great voice for a gospel type song, and Testify was marvellous. Caryl

19 Feb 2011, 21:19	#47
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	Testify was great, Testify live with MSO...immense, that version is stunning!

19 Feb 2011, 21:30	#48
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	He does a mean American Trillogy too

19 Feb 2011, 21:33	#49
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Apart from Elvis, not many white singers can do gospel justice. And apart from the beginning bit of Testify, I'd say the song is anything but gospel.

19 Feb 2011, 21:41	#50
CarylB Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.04.2003 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 5,910	That's your view. Not the view of some of us. Pointless to argue the toss.