Remove "Dislike Button"?

[Wario]

I love the like button, its killed the ever diluted and repetitive "CHSIB" comments. The dislike button however is really annoying.

If someone dislikes something its best we hear why. The dislike button makes most users feel a tad disrespected when it coems to their post. It seems some, like me, get disliked no matter what we say.

PRIME EXAMPLE IS THIS THREAD:
http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18124

someone disliked every single post in that thread. for what reason? Cause I started the thread? for crimes sake.

I want the dislike button gone. Keep the like button, but the dislike button causes trouble. thats my view, it wont make me cease posting or leave but its an annoyance.

[lyn]

Gosh, it is a hard one to an extent Wario. In a way, and I voted against its removal, it is good for someone like myself that is in a hurry to check threads etc, and comes across something that I don't like, and either I can't respond to it, or I don't have time to respond to it. But I do see your point, and many others too. It can be overused. I tend to think that ok, such and such doesn't like a lot of my comments. WHY? Is it that they hate my views altogether? Etc etc... Lol, maybe you should add undecided to the poll, for those like me who can't decide either way Good thread though :)

[LuuuuvMeat]

It's being misused for childish trolling IMO. Get rid of it!!!

[suzieq]

Originally Posted by LuuuuvMeat

It's being misused for childish trolling IMO. Get rid of it!!!

There is no way you can define the intent of the "dislike" button.

[LuuuuvMeat]

Originally Posted by suzieq

There is no way you can define the intent of the "dislike" button.

Sure you can.

Wario said it in his post.

[Paul Richardson]

May be use of the 'dislike' button should suspended, temporarily or otherwise, for those who can't use it with discretion ?

Certainly disliking every post in a thread without even posting a response as to why, would be grounds for a lengthy suspension of a user's 'dislike' button in my opinion !

Otherwise, I quite like it, and personally I'm more interested who likes / dislikes my posts rather than offended.

[BostonAngel]

Originally Posted by Paul Richardson

May be use of the 'dislike' button should suspended, temporarily or otherwise, for those who can't use it with discretion ?

Certainly disliking every post in a thread without even posting a response as to why, would be grounds for a lengthy suspension of a user's 'dislike' button in my opinion !

The purpose of both the LIKE and DISLIKE was to make it simple to express an opinion without having to write a reply. Words get twisted, manipulated, misquoted, misunderstood and the intent of what the person was trying to say loses its meaning.

At whose discretion? Just a question to think about, not one to be answered

[Paul Richardson]

Originally Posted by BostonAngel

At whose discretion?

The Mods of course...

[LuuuuvMeat]

I guess I'm a little more hardcore when it comes to rules. I see a clear patten but some disagree and that's OK.

I also think if someone has the time to hit the dislike buttom many times over then they have time to write a simply reply.

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Originally Posted by lyn

Gosh, it is a hard one to an extent Wario. In a way, and I voted against its removal, it is good for someone like myself that is in a hurry to check threads etc, and comes across something that I don't like, and either I can't respond to it, or I don't have time to respond to it. But I do see your point, and many others too. It can be overused. I tend to think that ok, such and such doesn't like a lot of my comments. WHY? Is it that they hate my views altogether? Etc etc... Lol, maybe you should add undecided to the poll, for those like me who can't decide either way Good thread though :)

Lyn, I responded to your post in the other thread before I saw this one. I believe that some people are capable of using the "Dislike" button in the way you describe, which is what I think it's intended purpose was. However, not only do I think it can be overused, I think it is being overused. If you look at which posts are being liked/disliked and by whom, I think you will easily see a pattern. As I said in my other post, this board has an ignore feature- perhaps some people might want to use it.

[Sarge]

I have no issue with people "disliking" posts but it's really annoying when you see someone making excessive use of the "dislike" button for no apparent reason. You read entertaining or informative posts just to find "dislikes" by the same person on the bottom again and again. It's not only controversial posts that are awarded with them.

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Yay, I got another one! Wario, you wanna keep score?

[LuuuuvMeat]

Oh now I see. It's game playing. How silly.


Carry on.

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Originally Posted by LuuuuvMeat

Oh now I see. It's game playing. How silly.


Carry on.

No, really, it's not a game, it's just gotten so ridiculous at this point, that all I can do is laugh.

[Ankie]

Closed until further notice.

[The Flying Mouse]

The purpose of the dislike (as well as the like) button is make your feelings known without replying to the post.

The advantage to this (in theory) is that by not replying with a post, the (none)poster is not esculating the argument further with their conflicting views.

Another benefit is that in the past we've had many many complaints in the past that members felt they have had their opinions "shouted down" on the forum.
It is better (in theory) that rather than a 500 word essay on "just how wrong you are", someone who disagrees has the option of simply showing their disagreement with a simple dislike.

It is quicker, cleaner, less inflamatory, and easier on the eye.
It also leaves more drinking time.

The like button can be used to agree when you have nothing better to add than "CHSIB", "I agree", or "thanks".
Most people, I believe, welcome that function.


The dislike button can be perceived as being used as a weapon to gang up on, to pick sides, or to bully, but so can the like button.

There is, I feel, something to be said about possible over use of the function, that to dislike too much without posting anything explaining at least some of your views is defeating the object a little.
The dislike is a tool, it's not the machine

That said, BostonAngel has come under a lot of personal comment in this thread, and it's not on.

A thread about a forum function is one thing (although I think a PM from Wario to R about how he feels might have been better in this instance) but a thread that seems dedicated to one persons use of the function is another thing entirley. And that's what this is turning into.


I would like to correct this (now deleted comment) for the record for those who read it...............

Originally Posted by Wario

She cant expect to dislike something in public without expecting someone to say something. Shes hiding behind the 'personal Attack" card to get us infracted.

Nobody has been infracted over this, and no infraction has been requested.


I'm inclined to reopen the thread for the time being to see if anyone has anything on topic to say about the like/dislike functions.

The functions only, that is, not the use of those functions by any one individual.

Leave the personal stuff at the door and carry on.
If it goes back to the arguing and finger pointing, it's history.

[The Flying Mouse]

Thread cleaned, scrubbed in vinegar, scoured, soaped and rinsed of all the personal comments.

[Dave]

I am in favor of both the "Like" and the "Dislike" button here. I also think that Facebook should have a "Dislike" button as well. At first, the dislike feature was anonymous, but the masses here requested it be opened. Thus, you can now see who specifically likes and dislikes what you post here. Perhaps forethought as to getting what you asked for should be put into place?

[AndrewG]

Perhaps one could compare this to spamming. Yes you CAN send someone an email every minute but SHOULD you?! The problem some have had here is with the over use of the dislike button, this is the whole point to Wario's original post. I think you can easily expect a backlash to that just as spammers can expect systems to filter spam emails from inboxes.

I think on this occasion the mod(s) has/have this VERY wrong.

[Wario]

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

The dislike button can be perceived as being used as a weapon to gang up on, to pick sides, or to bully, but so can the like button.

id love to know how the like button could be used as a gang up weapon lol

"omg you liked every thing I posted for no reason, you must be stopped!"

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

A thread about a forum function is one thing (although I think a PM from Wario to R about how he feels might have been better in this instance) but a thread that seems dedicated to one persons use of the function is another thing entirley. And that's what this is turning into.

I considered a PM, but i felt this is a discussion that could make for some good debate

[The Flying Mouse]

Originally Posted by Wario

id love to know how the like button could be used as a gang up weapon lol

"omg you liked every thing I posted for no reason, you must be stopped!"

Someone posts something agaist somebody else, a pile of people "like" the post in a show of support and agreement against who the poster was replying too.
Lines drawn, sides picked

[Wario]

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

Someone posts something agaist somebody else, a pile of people "like" the post in a show of support and agreement.
Lines drawn, sides picked

I stand corrected

[Sarge]

Originally Posted by AndrewG

The problem some have had here is with the over use of the dislike button, this is the whole point to Wario's original post.

Exactly. One of the reasons why we have this thread is the fact that the "dislike" button isn't always simply used as an alternative to a comment. It is very often (ab)used to label posts the person who "disliked" them presumably would not have responded to in the first place. It just appears to be a convienent way to interfere with discussions you're not even interested in and/or devaluate even non-controversial posts forum members have put time and effort in. The "dislike" option should be used in the actual context of a discussion and with regard to the content of posts, not as a tool to show disrespect to other forum members. It's not about the use of the "dislike" option, it's about the disruptive use of it.

[AndrewG]

I stand incorrected.

[LuuuuvMeat]

Originally Posted by Sarge

Exactly. One of the reasons why we have this thread is the fact that the "dislike" button isn't always simply used as an alternative to a comment. It is very often (ab)used to label posts the person who "disliked" them presumably would not have responded to in the first place. It just appears to be a convienent way to interfere with discussions you're not even interested in and/or devaluate even non-controversial posts forum members have put time and effort in. The "dislike" option should be used in the actual context of a discussion and with regard to the content of posts, not as a tool to show disrespect to other forum members. It's not about the use of the "dislike" option, it's about the disruptive use of it.

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