First Guilty Pleasure DVD review Published

[LisaT]

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

Not to worry, I will be out of your hair by Sept. 2013. It will be like I was never here. Just gone like a puff of smoke.

I was wondering if the move to Austin had something to do with Meat going back to his roots (sort of) to retire; looks like it might be on the cards for next year then.

[loaferman61]

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

yep !! same old stuff. I can get insulted all over the internet , but I just come here when I need a good insult. So it will really hurt my feelings . You have to go to a place where it says Fan Club for it to hurt like it should. I always know some one will have a good one here. Let me say this to all who say positive things I really thank you, you don't go unnoticed . Hope I can always live up to
your expectations , I will give you everything I have to give. Again, Thank you very much.
M

Glad you notice the positives. Saw you in Durham in August and it was fantastic. There will always be the occasional negative comment when people express opinions, but well over 90% of what is posted here is very positive. If people were 90% + positive about me I'd take that any day. Always going to be some negatives in life. I got the impression that you were not so much reacting to the comment when you mentioned Sept. 2013 than that you had something in the works for that already.

[Sarge]

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

yep !!

Why did you quote my post? Obviously you and I don't criticize the same thing.

[robgomm]

Originally Posted by MarkS

I could ask you the same thing. Especially in relation to the iTunes material that you mentioned. Take Hot Patootie for instance, it is vocally terrible IMO. There comes a time where you start to notice that difference between screaming and singing

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And this is the same guy who in the other thread is asking Meat to put up board tapes for him to listen to!!! Lmao

You insult him in one thread and then ask him for a favour in another?!!!!!!

[robgomm]

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

yep !! same old stuff. I can get insulted all over the internet , but I just come here when I need a good insult. So it will really hurt my feelings . You have to go to a place where it says Fan Club for it to hurt like it should. I always know some one will have a good one here. Let me say this to all who say positive things I really thank you, you don't go unnoticed . Hope I can always live up to
your expectations , I will give you everything I have to give. Again, Thank you very much.
M

We love you Meat! And if next September is it thank you very very much. I hope I will get to see you one last time

[MarkS]

Originally Posted by robgomm

And this is the same guy who in the other thread is asking Meat to put up board tapes for him to listen to!!! Lmao

You insult him in one thread and then ask him for a favour in another?!!!!!!

And this from the guy who made the statements about timing on the giving tree performance that ran Meat off the last time selective memory you got there.

Quite frankly Meat overreacted to my statement. One person expresses a dislike for 1, I'll say that again, 1 product, that being the DVD, and meats reaction is to announce retirement.

And your damn right I want board tapes. The MMW IMO is much better than the GP tour, and I would like to have a professional recording of it.

So in the future let us not forget our own past when scolding someone in the present, because that is just a tad hypocritical.

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[Mr. Happy]

Originally Posted by Sarge

Why did you quote my post? Obviously you and I don't criticize the same thing.

I was wondering if I was the only one who noticed this

[CarylB]

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy

I was wondering if I was the only one who noticed this

No .. but I always enjoy irony

Caryl

[The Flying Mouse]

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

You won't like it !! (the DVD) You will make it the frog in Biology class.

Meat, with your next release, do a box set of a DVD and a 6 pack of beer.
No better way to stop overanylising stuff than to just have a f*cking good time

Originally Posted by Vickip

Yes ... unfortunately you can't please everybody no matter how hard you try

True.
Very true.


Unless you're talking about me because i'm so goddam awesome

Originally Posted by MarkS

It is a worldwide DVD release. Good, bad, or indifferent you have to know going into it that people are going to scrutinize it and "put it under a microscope" its just human nature.

True.
Some people will do that.
But it doesn't mean they should

See my earlier comment regarding beer and rock n roll.
We call this concept "Fun" (<-----this guys getting quite the outing this post).

Originally Posted by MarkS

it is just honest opinions and there isn't anything wrong with that.

Again, true.
We are here for honest opinion posted in a respectful manner.
OK "sounds far from perfect" isn't the nicest thing you could say, but i'll lay whatever odds anyone wants to throw down that it's nowhere near the worst thing he's had said to him in the last 35 years.

Originally Posted by Monstro

Is it? It may be human nature for a minority but the majority of people who'll buy it will like it or dislike it as a whole DVD.

Quoted for truth.

Again, if you listen to it for the purposes of "Fun" you'll have a great time, i'm sure.
Listen to it as some sort of homework project and the fun sort of flies away.

Get tanked and sing along (I should have been in advertising )

Originally Posted by CarylB

I agree. The members of this forum don't imo exactly represent Meat's wider fanbase but are a minority in themselves,

And the vast majority of our minority have been nothing but positive.

Who could ask for anything more without the building of a gulag?

Before -

After -

[The Flying Mouse]

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

It will be like I was never here. Just gone like a puff of smoke.

Never gonna happen bro
You think that, you don't know us.

But you could have at least said............

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

Just gone like Keyser Soze.

Sorry, the devil makes me do it

Originally Posted by LisaT

That wasn't a particularly nice way to break it to all the LOYAL AND DEDICATED fans on this forum, if that is what was being implied.

You know something, all hysterics on this thread aside, I agree with this

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

yep !! same old stuff. I can get insulted all over the internet , but I just come here when I need a good insult. So it will really hurt my feelings . You have to go to a place where it says Fan Club for it to hurt like it should. I always know some one will have a good one here.

One person on this thread has said something you don't like so you slate the fanclub?
That's not exactly fair Meat.
That's like blaming all English people because Piers Morgan is an asshole.

See the comment above about not pleasing everyone.
It's TRUE.
Come on, you know this by now Meat.
I can't believe this is the same guy who stood on a sidewalk in New York shouting "F*CK YOU CLIVE".

If you see the odd comment that isn't positive here it's because you are not god, you are not perfect, and not everyone will be pleased by every single thing you do.

But if I had your overall approval rating..........

Also consider that your fans are those most likely to know you best, and expect the best. Sometimes standards can be unrealistic.

And one final thing to consider.
People know your work here, so you might not be criticised anywhere else like you are here (which I personally don't believe) but you also don't have such an outporing or love, support, and affection either many other places either.


You know this yourself because you wrote.................

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

Let me say this to all who say positive things I really thank you, you don't go unnoticed . Hope I can always live up to
your expectations , I will give you everything I have to give. Again, Thank you very much.
M

You always live up to mine, and I thank you.

Originally Posted by Vickip

It's all about respect .. which IMO is truly lacking around here.

This is my point, Vivki. It really really really isn't lacking.
Read this thread again and see how upset and supportive of Meat people are.

Originally Posted by suzieq

It's just never watered down enough to keep your feelings from getting hurt here. It's frustrating.

If the ammount of positive comments are not enough to water down the minority of negative opinions, then we're going to need a bigger boat.

Originally Posted by CarylB

I think the positive comments outweigh the insults, and I believe you do too,

Yes

Originally Posted by CarylB

but I also understand that it's the insults that hit home and hurt. They would to most of us imo.

I understand this. It's not nice being criticised. But anyone who stands on a stage will get it. Even within their own fanbase. But the love always outways the negative opinion.

Originally Posted by loaferman61

well over 90% of what is posted here is very positive. If people were 90% + positive about me I'd take that any day.

If I ever get approval like that i'll fly you all in for my opening night at Wembley

[CarylB]

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

I understand this. It's not nice being criticised. But anyone who stands on a stage will get it. Even within their own fanbase. But the love always outways the negative opinion.

You said "We are here for honest opinion posted in a respectful manner. OK "sounds far from perfect" isn't the nicest thing you could say, but i'll lay whatever odds anyone wants to throw down that it's nowhere near the worst thing he's had said to him in the last 35 years." Undoubtedly Mouse, but as the performer I would feel the word "screaming" a pretty insulting comment, and as me consider it far from respectful as well as likely to provoke a reaction.

.. but you also don't have such an outporing or love, support, and affection either many other places either.

True .. and as I said, I believe Meat knows this and values it. I also think (in no small part because of this) he's been working on NOT being guy who stood on a sidewalk in New York shouting "F*CK YOU CLIVE" when he comes here

Caryl

[MarkS]

*"Screaming" Mayor may not have been the best choice of words for the matter. But when I listen to the clip of hot patootie that's what I feel it sounds like. And what I have said on this thread being labeled as right or wrong does not change how I feel about the product. Simply expressing what I feel about this product and this product only

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[Monstro]

Originally Posted by MarkS

Simply expressing what I feel about this product and this product only

Which is ok, it's the continually expressing your feelings about this product despite you saying you weren't going to say anything else that's beginning to grate on me.

[MarkS]

Originally Posted by Monstro

Which is ok, it's the continually expressing your feelings about this product despite you saying you weren't going to say anything else that's beginning to grate on me.

Well the reason that I have done that is because several people have addressed me directly and I felt the need to respond to some of their issues. When people stop addressing me i will not have a reason to post on this thread

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[LisaT]

Originally Posted by CarylB

No .. but I always enjoy irony

Caryl

Me too!

[madonna123968848]

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

Not to worry, I will be out of your hair by Sept. 2013. It will be like I was never here. Just gone like a puff of smoke.

We won't let you go Meat - I am pretty tuff you know!!! x

[robgomm]

Originally Posted by MarkS

And this from the guy who made the statements about timing on the giving tree performance that ran Meat off the last time selective memory you got there.

Quite frankly Meat overreacted to my statement. One person expresses a dislike for 1, I'll say that again, 1 product, that being the DVD, and meats reaction is to announce retirement.

And your damn right I want board tapes. The MMW IMO is much better than the GP tour, and I would like to have a professional recording of it.

So in the future let us not forget our own past when scolding someone in the present, because that is just a tad hypocritical.

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Actually you want to get your facts straight. Fact is I made a mistake and apologised for it, which I don't see you doing so it's completely different.

Plus also Meat didn't run off because of me. He ran off because of the stick he had taken from so many other members, it just so happened my mistake was there to be used at the time as an example why he was leaving. You know how I know this? Meat and I spoke via PM and settled it.

So you are completely and utterly wrong in both regards, plus you slate Meats vocals on songs as being terrible, and then ask him for something.

[The Flying Mouse]

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Enough with the personal attacks.
There is a difference between personal opinion and attacking someone.
Any more will earn the poster a few points and get the thread locked.

In fact, let's put a stop to this whole game of Who Shot John and get back to the subject of the DVD and the review.

[PanicLord]

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

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Enough with the personal attacks.
There is a difference between personal opinion and attacking someone.
Any more will earn the poster a few points and get the thread locked.

In fact, let's put a stop to this whole game of Who Shot John and get back to the subject of the DVD and the review.

Good idea. Have there been any other reviews?

[Ollie241189]

Dya know what, I wish I hadn't put anything on here. I stated that I was excited about the new DVD and what I heard so far sounded fantastic and it has just escalated into something I didn't want to see.
Meat, I dont want you to be out of my hair this time next year. I really dont. You have made an awesome collection of albums in my car. I truly, truly hope you continue to do what you do but I want you to be happy doing it. If you're not happy doing it then you do what you feel is right of course.
I am sorry to everyone, including Meat Loaf, for my original comment which has spurred on all the negativity and arguing that Meat has had to read.

I would like to apologise again for my original comment.

Take it easy guys and dont take it all to heart please, Meat! I still love ya!

[Ollie241189]

Originally Posted by Fire Ball

Not to worry, I will be out of your hair by Sept. 2013. It will be like I was never here. Just gone like a puff of smoke.

Meat, please, please, please dont make a decision whilst you're heated or upset because, someone once said to me, "Ollie, when you're heated or upset or angry, you dont ever, ever, ever make a drastic decision because it will be the one and only decision you will ever regret making." And Meat, I would like you to promise us you will calm down, away from this forum and seriously have a good think about it all, because quite frankly millions of people, worldwide, love you and respect you.
Take care Meat! Xx

[Paul Richardson]

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

One person on this thread has said something you don't like so you slate the fanclub?

If the amount of positive comments are not enough to water down the minority of negative opinions, then we're going to need a bigger boat.

Well said. It was only one person, who from what I can see, is usually hugely positive. Its not like the negativity was disrespectful or abusive imo, and certainly not enough to start another posting war ... I think we definitely need that boat ...

[robgomm]

Originally Posted by Ollie241189

Dya know what, I wish I hadn't put anything on here. I stated that I was excited about the new DVD and what I heard so far sounded fantastic and it has just escalated into something I didn't want to see.
Meat, I dont want you to be out of my hair this time next year. I really dont. You have made an awesome collection of albums in my car. I truly, truly hope you continue to do what you do but I want you to be happy doing it. If you're not happy doing it then you do what you feel is right of course.
I am sorry to everyone, including Meat Loaf, for my original comment which has spurred on all the negativity and arguing that Meat has had to read.

I would like to apologise again for my original comment.

Take it easy guys and dont take it all to heart please, Meat! I still love ya!

Ollie you have nothing to apologise for, absolutely nothing. Why should you apologise for a positive good comment? Yes there have been arguments but that is not to do with you. You have nothing to apologise for. I too am super excited about this DVD, only 7 days to go! And it does sound great! I can't wait to get my surround sound on!

[Vickip]

Originally Posted by Ollie241189

Dya know what, I wish I hadn't put anything on here. I stated that I was excited about the new DVD and what I heard so far sounded fantastic and it has just escalated into something I didn't want to see.
Meat, I dont want you to be out of my hair this time next year. I really dont. You have made an awesome collection of albums in my car. I truly, truly hope you continue to do what you do but I want you to be happy doing it. If you're not happy doing it then you do what you feel is right of course.
I am sorry to everyone, including Meat Loaf, for my original comment which has spurred on all the negativity and arguing that Meat has had to read.

I would like to apologise again for my original comment.

Take it easy guys and dont take it all to heart please, Meat! I still love ya!

Please don't be so hard on yourself Ollie ... you're excited about the DVD, and you have nothing to apologize for.

[Ollie241189]

Originally Posted by Vickip

Please don't be so hard on yourself Ollie ... you have nothing to apologize for.

Vicki, sweetie, it seems to me that everytime I post on here or I support Meat it escalates into something that it shouldn't escalate into. To be quite honest sweetie, I'm starting to feel the same way as Meat is feeling about this forum!