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![]() Based on Meat's posts on his FB page, he's handling it very well. |
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This is the internet. What do you expect? Just as ML has the right to express his views, so do those who oppose him. They may express their anger in a more vitriolic fashion than I would prefer, but they have that right. If you don't want to be exposed to that than don't read comment sections on Facebook, CNN, etc... I've learned to not get upset by the internet, or else the internet wins. I save getting upset for online XBOX games. |
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Now, we have two trends: lack of good information, and polarization. We live in a time when more people than ever operate strictly on hearsay, or what they read on a Yahoo Answers page. Newspapers had enough problems of their own, but we've gone downhill from there! Network TV news has become more entertainment than news. But even though we are deluged with "lite" info (or maybe because of it) we are more polarized than we've ever been. We have trouble discussing anything without getting angry. Maybe it's a good time to start talking to our friends and family about these previously off-limits topics. I don't want to put words in Meat's mouth but I doubt that he meant bullying in any way. I think it's time to increase the dialogue, to talk more, and talk freely. -Kathy . |
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Having read this entire thread and watched the videos:
The singing was, well, I'll skip the adjectives this time. The excuses flying around (he's just done a show so he's tired, it was a youtube clip, etc.) are really starting to sound delusional (and yes, it's painful to have to admit that). I made a post in the Sammy Hagar and Meat thread about this with comparison videos, because the camera phone/youtube thing can't be used to defend a less than great performance. And as for the argument about HIAB being comparable to this situation because it's a 'politically charged' album - yeah, it's about as far to the left as possible. It's borderline Marxian. Confused. Doode. |
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Even the flag didn't want to be there.
Seeing Meat Loaf so tired makes me sad. He should have had a rest after the show instead of doing that performance and trying to scream his way out of it in my opinion. |
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BTW, is this 'version' of America the Beautiful up there with Roseanne's National Anthem performance? This weighs heavier being 'sung' at a political rally...
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I'm the first to admit I don't know enough about the issues to form an opinion on whether I would make the same choice as Meat were I in a position to vote in this election. Like Meat, I have not always voted for the same party (although I am by inclination left of centre), and I have not always endorsed all the views of the candidate I voted for. But right or left, I would be ashamed to be associated with the abusive comments, threats, disgusting words and phrases I have seen posted on his FB page, sometimes from both sides. The sheer torrent of hatred being aimed at a decent man, who has lived a decent life and spent 40 years proving himself to be a wonderful performer, who gives his all on stage, and is unfailingly gracious and kind to his fans, simply horrifies me. In a decent society that is not imo reasonable or acceptable. His responses have earned more of my respect than ever. Caryl |
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A different angle about this endorsement: do you think all members of the band who were onstage agreed with Meat statements?
I think he should have done this thing alone... |
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I hope you're right. Anyway, he put it on a very personal level and the speech was all about his story and the way he feels about politics right now. But the stage was crowded. I don't know, Springsteen never brought the E Street band to an Obama rally... |
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The trouble is that will never happen. It took hundreds of years for things to change in this country (UK) to get to where we are now. First we had factions and no political system, then we had kings and queens ruling with no parliment, then kings and queens with parliment, and then finally we had parliment become the main power, and that is the best system because the poeple couldn't pick and choose who they wanted as king or queen, but we can vote for who we want to run the government. If you don't like someones ideas, vote for someone else. And noone can tell me it doesn't work because people either don't vote or only vote for one of the two main parties. That's a problem with the people, not with the system. The UK system is fine as it is, we just need more competition, which we can't get because people aren't brave enough to vote for someone different. So like I said the people are the problem.
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You either work with it, opt out in passive acceptance, just criticize it, or work to change it. Change takes involvement, commitment and effort, as would devoting yourself to becoming an alternative candidate.
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Can someone please post Meat's response here or point me in the right direction? I've scanned his FB page and I can't find it! Thanks.
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What if just one member of the band didn't agree with the endorsement. If he/she didn't show up, we'd have speculation about his/her absence. So he/she could have decided for the lesser of two evils. Hope none of them was in that uncomfortable position. Keep thinking that Meat should have done it by himself. |
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CarylB forget the political part. Do you think Meat Loaf's performance was good or bad. A bad or good would be good!
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