Meat's 2015 plans?

[CarylB]

Originally Posted by Tina

Why would he choose for Poland or Russia or South America, when Imo most of his fans live in the UK and the westside of Europe. Or am I wrong about that?

No you're not wrong. However, I wouldn't assume Meat has chosen them, nor at this stage that they are anything more than possibilities, ideas that were at that moment on his mind. Given Meat removed that from his page shortly afterwards, it may be by no means certain. Meat has a new album coming out in 2015. I would hazard a guess that any record company might be asking him to tour to promote it. Meat has made it very clear that he no longer wants to tour. Promoters and the record company may well want him to. Ultimately it is promoters who put forward the deals based on what they get out of it. Meat's final say may be limited to refusing rather than choosing where and what to do .. remember Popstar to Operastar was all part of a deal in order to promote Bat3. We can speculate all we want, but it would be in a whopping void as we don't know enough of what is going on behind the scenes.

Originally Posted by nikox1

So it's almost certain a 2015 release then? So another year or more then before release, ( sad face ).

The original date Meat identified was for the release to be late this year, so the date he's now mentioned is only a few months further off, and he has a very busy schedule this year. He's said he may stop performing on stage at the end of 2015, so he has a lot to juggle

[nikox1]

@ Caryl,, yes so it's still a year away. Yes I know he said September 14 first? And what? I'm hoping its sooner.

[szakal88]

Originally Posted by Tina

Why would he choose for Poland or Russia or South America, when Imo most of his fans live in the UK and the westside of Europe. Or am I wrong about that?

Meat has always complaining about high taxes in Germany, so it's smart to come to Poland, where taxes may be lower. It's near to Germany, Poland is a cheep country for all Western Europe, so it's easy to travel for Germans, British and others.

Moreover there are bunch of fans in Poland, who would like to go to his concert, but can't afford to travel abroad.

[Evil One]

In the middle of a rant on Facebook are these interesting tidbits:

Getting ready to record 9 Steinman tracks Jim thinks I can still do Justice to his songs

When I can no longer walk on that stage and give a good and sometimes very good show. I will walk away. Most Likely , I will stop at the end of 2015

He may have hit the 9 key instead of 6 by mistake, but you never know...

[TheDoode]

Originally Posted by CarylB

remember Popstar to Operastar was all part of a deal in order to promote Bat3

Was that for Bat III, or HCTB?

[melon]

Originally Posted by TheDoode

Was that for Bat III, or HCTB?

Pretty sure Bat III

[Evil One]

Originally Posted by nikox1

@ Caryl,, yes so it's still a year away. Yes I know he said September 14 first? And what? I'm hoping its sooner.

I'm not. I'd rather everyone involved take their time and produce something excellent. Hell In A Handbasket was very good, but it was rushed. With a bit more time it could have been excellent. I don't want Brave & Crazy to be very good, I want it to be excellent.

[TheDoode]

Originally Posted by melon

Pretty sure Bat III

Ha, I can't remember when Opera Star aired now. Wasn't it around 2009/2010?

[tonyloaf]

it was HCTB, Bat on Broadway was the used to big up Bat 3

[melon]

Originally Posted by TheDoode

Ha, I can't remember when Opera Star aired now. Wasn't it around 2009/2010?

Could have been! My memory is pretty bad, but I had a feeling it was Bat III

[CarylB]

Originally Posted by TheDoode

Was that for Bat III, or HCTB?

It was HCTB .. a deal that enabled him to be resident in London and travel all over Europe each week doing the media Playback Events for the launch of HCTB. And a smart deal too imo. Mea culpa .. and doesn't negate the point I was making .. but thank you for picking up on this inaccuracy.

[Vickip]

Two of my favorite Meat Loaf songs, Paradise & Rock 'N Roll Dreams, were written by Jim Steinman.
And my other favorite, The Giving Tree, was written by Evan Watson. So I have to admit that I really
don't care who writes the songs for the new CD as long as they're great songs Clearly Meat's excited
about the new CD .. that's what I'm happy about at this point and I just hope that the record label gives
him the support he deserves so that it's a huge hit for him

As far as the shows go, we'll just have to wait and see what happens. But it certainly is fun to think about ...
it's all great

[nikox1]

Originally Posted by Evil One

I'm not. I'd rather everyone involved take their time and produce something excellent. Hell In A Handbasket was very good, but it was rushed. With a bit more time it could have been excellent. I don't want Brave & Crazy to be very good, I want it to be excellent.

Which I agree, in a past post I stated the extra time will help. I was just stating from a fans point of view = I want the album now!!! That's all, we as fans get excited and can't wait sometimes.

[Evil One]

You need to calm down. Nothing good comes from being premature.

[nikox1]

I am calm!! It's you looking too much into it my dear, haha!!! All is good

[BostonAngel]

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy

They didn't delete it, I did, apparently too late and apparently for good reason. What I deleted didn't warrant that response, though. I don't think you could have possibly blown my comment further out of proportion if you tried

Since your original post was deleted none of this makes much sense. Unfortunately I had been able 2 quote the post that you have since deleted. Only internet access i have is from my simple crappy cell phone which is very limiting. That's also why i only quoted part of your post here. I can't delete posts from my cell too. However i still did want to address this: You quoted what i posted as my opinion and then said, "YOU ARE WRONG" That is a very clear, concise & direct statement; No possible way to "blow that out of proportion". Saying YOU ARE WRONG to another forum member deserves a direct response. it's unacceptable to me. Deleting after doesn't change it. Mods can delete as they see fit. they have a hard thankless job which they do well.

[Mr. Happy]

Originally Posted by BostonAngel

However i still did want to address this: You quoted what i posted as my opinion and then said, "YOU ARE WRONG" That is a very clear, concise & direct statement; No possible way to "blow that out of proportion".

Then you misunderstood me. I said it was outright wrong to refer to Jim as just another writer in the context of Meat's overall history, not that it was outright wrong for you to consider him to be just another writer in terms of your personal preferences. The first is a solid fact, not an opinion. Jim started Meat's career with Bat and then saved it with Bat 2. The second, you can feel however you want, I'm hardly going to dictate how you should feel (and that wasn't my intent in the first place either). I even said I agreed with you in being excited about more writers, so me calling you wrong wouldn't have just been rude and stupid, it would have also been hypocritical. James Michael and Rick Brantely have done some amazing work with Meat Loaf, I'm just as pumped for their stuff as I am for Jim's. Couldn't Have Said It Better, Did I Say That, Peace on Earth, Song of Madness etc rank higher than a fair few Jim songs for me.

That's the last I'm going to say about it. I'm sorry I offended you, and like I said, I did take it down because I figured it was probably going to cause trouble and the thread was derailed enough as it was and it was just adding fuel to the flame. A little like this is

To be on topic, I'm curious as to whether or not some of the songs Jim is providing this time round will be the ones he wrote for Bat 3 that never materialised on the album. Paradise Lost, The Monster is Out of the Cage and the other ones that either I can't remember or don't actually exist (were there other titles mentioned?). I could see those plus Still the Children, Braver, Speaking in Tongues and a totally new one being the six.

I'd also love to hear Meat cover Rick Brantely's songs Free and Blue Bandanna. Those are just incredible songs that I reckon Meat could do great things with, especially the first one. I'd love to hear that done with a real piano

[Cherry.Loaf]

So 8 Steinman songs is great news; I love Jim nearly named my black rabbit Stein

2015 is looking great already :) Russia and Poland for honeymoon than

[TheDoode]

Also just found this post from Meat on his facebook page: ' I am being rewarded I am working With Jim Steinman again and there is no bigger reward than that in my Business too me . Thanks, M'.

Sounds like everyone's happy; can't wait to see what they come up with come album time!

[CarylB]

He has a revised title .. Braver Than We Are

[anotherday]

Originally Posted by CarylB

He has a revised title .. Braver Than We Are

where did you see this???????

[mtaylor315]

Meat posted this on FB:

[Evil Ernie]

Originally Posted by TheDoode

Also just found this post from Meat on his facebook page: ' I am being rewarded I am working With Jim Steinman again and there is no bigger reward than that in my Business too me . Thanks, M'.

I love Meat, but I REALLY wish that he would proofread what he posts on twitter, forums, etc...

[Paul Richardson]

Originally Posted by CarylB

He has a revised title .. Braver Than We Are

A Steinman title and now 9 (?) Steinman songs. The longer it pans out, the more likely it will end up as a full album. More reasons not rush it !

[Evil One]

Call me blasphemous, but I prefer Brave & Crazy. Braver Than We Are is a good name for a fantastic song, but I'm not sure it works as an album title.

Originally Posted by Paul Richardson

A Steinman title and now 9 (?) Steinman songs. The longer it pans out, the more likely it will end up as a full album. More reasons not rush it !

If the number of Steinman songs keep growing then it's going to force the rest of the songwriters off. Unless Meat does two albums.