I have a Question - Page 2

Elijah's way · 04 Apr 2009, 20:00

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Originally Posted by mszee

RJ, I did get 2nd edition...

That is not my point made yesterday...my point is that the subject of .Net has been discussed over and over and over again on this forum and it ain't getting anybody anywhere...who knows the cause of it not being what it should be? It started well enough I suppose...maybe website isn't important to Meat...maybe he has other more pressing goals and problems...

My point is that in the last few weeks RHStoned started quite a few "interesting" threads...on topics that were discussed and over-discussed...and somehow always led to controversy...but if you look at the date of joining the forum...it's 2005...which is even before I came along...if it was a new person starting these threads, it would be understandable...but for a long standing fan/member whose been here forever it is a bit strange to pose the questions which he has already seen answers to numerous times...begs quite another question...WHY?

Maybe I ask them so the new fans would get an answer but apparently people like you can't figure that out so don't come bashing me just because you have nothing better to do.

WHY NOT?

mszee · 04 Apr 2009, 23:07

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Originally Posted by RHStoned

Maybe I ask them so the new fans would get an answer but apparently people like you can't figure that out so don't come bashing me just because you have nothing better to do.

WHY NOT?

I wasn't bashing you - I expressed my opinion. And as it turned out I was right...

So you think anybody here can give an answer to the questions you've posed? They couldn't then and they can't now...

Elijah's way · 05 Apr 2009, 20:22

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Originally Posted by mszee

I wasn't bashing you - I expressed my opinion. And as it turned out I was right...

So you think anybody here can give an answer to the questions you've posed? They couldn't then and they can't now...

No your completely wrong and yes the questions have been answered so grow up!

mszee · 05 Apr 2009, 20:31

So...you're entitled to express your opinion but I have to grow up to be able to do so?

I am not going to argue with you because I can see right through you...and it's not a discussion or even a debate that you want...you want to start a fight, sit back, relax and enjoy...so I am not wasting my breath on you anymore...but here are the last words of wisdom...

If you don't like fires...don't play with matches...

Elijah's way · 05 Apr 2009, 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by mszee

So...you're entitled to express your opinion but I have to grow up to be able to do so?

I am not going to argue with you because I can see right through you...and it's not a discussion or even a debate that you want...you want to start a fight, sit back, relax and enjoy...so I am not wasting my breath on you anymore...but here are the last words of wisdom...

If you don't like fires...don't play with matches...

If anybody started any fight's it was you I only asked a question and you just blew it out of proportion I think your the one who want's to argue with everyone so like I said grow up

And no you can't see right through me you don't even know me so

LucyK! · 06 Apr 2009, 16:56

I think Zina's (well made) point was why did you bother to start a thread asking about something that clearly in your own mind you already have the answer to...no arguments intended and certainly not picking a fight.

In regards to the website - official or unoffical - I just hope that whatever is eventually provided is a) worth the ridiculous membership fee that will inevitably be charged, b) good enough to represent Meat and his work, and c) even half as good as the expections that fans have for it, because the last one was none of those things. If the new site is anything like the last one then I for one can see no reason to purchase a membership - there was little news, the news that did come in was extremely out of date, the merchandise is available via fanfire.com... the only thing that appealed to me was the opportunity to purchase the M&G packages, which as it turned out were available to non-members anyway, so unless there's a radical revamp I see no reason at all to join.

**RadioMaster** · 06 Apr 2009, 17:10

I have a question. And, unlike others, is one I'd like to get an answer for: (lol)

Wasnt there a policy that no members could renew their membership anymore, since (I think) last summer? Is that still in action? And in that case, are there actually any members left, or did everyones membership just run out of date?

mszee · 06 Apr 2009, 18:43

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

I have a question. And, unlike others, is one I'd like to get an answer for: (lol)

Wasnt there a policy that no members could renew their membership anymore, since (I think) last summer? Is that still in action? And in that case, are there actually any members left, or did everyones membership just run out of date?

Mine ran out and I won't be renewing it.

**Monstro** · 06 Apr 2009, 18:50

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

I have a question. And, unlike others, is one I'd like to get an answer for: (lol)

Wasnt there a policy that no members could renew their membership anymore, since (I think) last summer? Is that still in action? And in that case, are there actually any members left, or did everyones membership just run out of date?

Memberships can't be renewed, there's not many people left there now and several of those are sharing log in details of those that can still get on. For some when the membership expires you can still get on there.

Mine's still going but will only renew to a new site if it's worth it for me as what Smoggy said is right, if there are no benefits to membership other than a somewhat iffy forum and the ticket packages and merchandise continue to be open to all then I wont bother.

Quicksilver · 08 Apr 2009, 15:54

My .net membership expired before the site was suspended. no one told me my mebership had expired and to renew and now I do not appear to be a member.

I hope that whatever is launched is widely advertised so that evryone who wants to join can do so and beneift from whatever is good about the new site.

If the new album brings a tour we would all want to ensure we can get the best news and the best tickets.

LucyK! · 08 Apr 2009, 16:05

One of the issues for me was their "news updates"...that site was printed on albums and advertised as Meat's official site, and therefore is the place that any new fans will go to to get the latest information. Unfortunately due to the upkeep of that site there will be fans out there who either travelled to shows that they did not know were cancelled, or didn't get tickets to shows because they simply didn't know he was playing. I appreciate it's an American-run site and we have to allow for the time difference (especially back in 2007 when the UK second-leg shows were being confirmed as cancelled by the minute) but surely if you are running the official website then you make sure that info is up there as soon as is humanly possible, because that is the responsibility you accept when you take on the role - a responsibility to the fans and a responsibility to the artist.

Thankfully over the past few years I think fans have got the best tickets and the best news, but sadly not provided by .net

**RadioMaster** · 08 Apr 2009, 16:27

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver

If the new album brings a tour we would all want to ensure we can get the best news and the best tickets.

They'll make sure it's up by then...anything else would be promtional suicide...

mszee · 08 Apr 2009, 16:35

Seeing how it is an American site and I was sitting with a credit card right when pre-sale started, I still don't know how I got tickets worse than I would have gotten from the Ticketmaster or similar...

LucyK! · 08 Apr 2009, 16:43

Last year (in the UK anyway) the best tickets were with Ticketmaster. The only show where the "best" seats were in the M&G packages were Nottingham. I just hope that whatever we end up with represents Meat, the band and his work accordingly, .net have let him down terribly and caused a lot of stress to a lot of people!

*AndyK* · 09 Apr 2009, 12:08

In .net's (partial) defence they can only sell the tickets they are allocated, that allocation comes from the promoters under instruction from Meat's management company. Hopefully Meat's new management company will serve him better in this respect in the future. Apparently Meat's new management company is owned by the Chief Executive of TicketMaster, so if we dont' see an improvement in this area I'd be surprised.

As for the rest of the member services, I think the team here have provided more news via Google over the last 24 months than .net has ...

05 Apr 2009, 20:31	#29
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 29.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	So...you're entitled to express your opinion but I have to grow up to be able to do so? I am not going to argue with you because I can see right through you...and it's not a discussion or even a debate that you want...you want to start a fight, sit back, relax and enjoy...so I am not wasting my breath on you anymore...but here are the last words of wisdom... If you don't like fires...don't play with matches...

06 Apr 2009, 16:56	#31
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	I think Zina's (well made) point was why did you bother to start a thread asking about something that clearly in your own mind you already have the answer to...no arguments intended and certainly not picking a fight. In regards to the website - official or unoffical - I just hope that whatever is eventually provided is a) worth the ridiculous membership fee that will inevitably be charged, b) good enough to represent Meat and his work, and c) even half as good as the expections that fans have for it, because the last one was none of those things. If the new site is anything like the last one then I for one can see no reason to purchase a membership - there was little news, the news that did come in was extremely out of date, the merchandise is available via fanfire.com... the only thing that appealed to me was the opportunity to purchase the M&G packages, which as it turned out were available to non-members anyway, so unless there's a radical revamp I see no reason at all to join.

06 Apr 2009, 17:10	#32
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	I have a question. And, unlike others, is one I'd like to get an answer for: (lol) Wasnt there a policy that no members could renew their membership anymore, since (I think) last summer? Is that still in action? And in that case, are there actually any members left, or did everyones membership just run out of date?

08 Apr 2009, 15:54	#35
Quicksilver Rookie Join Date: 19.10.2006 Location: Stanmore Middlesex Posts: 19	My .net membership expired before the site was suspended. no one told me my mebership had expired and to renew and now I do not appear to be a member. I hope that whatever is launched is widely advertised so that evryone who wants to join can do so and beneift from whatever is good about the new site. If the new album brings a tour we would all want to ensure we can get the best news and the best tickets.

08 Apr 2009, 16:05	#36
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	One of the issues for me was their "news updates"...that site was printed on albums and advertised as Meat's official site, and therefore is the place that any new fans will go to to get the latest information. Unfortunately due to the upkeep of that site there will be fans out there who either travelled to shows that they did not know were cancelled, or didn't get tickets to shows because they simply didn't know he was playing. I appreciate it's an American-run site and we have to allow for the time difference (especially back in 2007 when the UK second-leg shows were being confirmed as cancelled by the minute) but surely if you are running the official website then you make sure that info is up there as soon as is humanly possible, because that is the responsibility you accept when you take on the role - a responsibility to the fans and a responsibility to the artist. Thankfully over the past few years I think fans have got the best tickets and the best news, but sadly not provided by .net

08 Apr 2009, 16:35	#38
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 29.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	Seeing how it is an American site and I was sitting with a credit card right when pre-sale started, I still don't know how I got tickets worse than I would have gotten from the Ticketmaster or similar...

08 Apr 2009, 16:43	#39
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	Last year (in the UK anyway) the best tickets were with Ticketmaster. The only show where the "best" seats were in the M&G packages were Nottingham. I just hope that whatever we end up with represents Meat, the band and his work accordingly, .net have let him down terribly and caused a lot of stress to a lot of people!

09 Apr 2009, 12:08	#40
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	In .net's (partial) defence they can only sell the tickets they are allocated, that allocation comes from the promoters under instruction from Meat's management company. Hopefully Meat's new management company will serve him better in this respect in the future. Apparently Meat's new management company is owned by the Chief Executive of TicketMaster, so if we dont' see an improvement in this area I'd be surprised. As for the rest of the member services, I think the team here have provided more news via Google over the last 24 months than .net has ...