Study In America - Help!

meatloaf-unofficial · 12 Aug 2007, 16:21

Hi all

I was wanting some help, maybe those who live in the US would be more help, I don't know...

I was thinking, I am in ym last year now at school (finish summer 200eight) and when I leave school I want to go to Uni/college to study; Theatre Lighting...

Now, I did think about Edinburgh but then I thought, why not the US, study Abroad.. Many students are studying internationally nowerdays... - thought of living and studying in the US would be cool!

the thing is I am having trouble finding US Universities?Colleges that do my cource I am lookig for or similar and take International people - or cource you need a Visa, I would try and apply for one...

So can any of you help me out? do you know of any places in the US that might do my cource? I tried google'ing it but it seems to prove to be a hard researcher!

Post and let me know or pm or email me

Thanks
Ross

Heli · 12 Aug 2007, 16:52

I'm not american, but i remember when I was finishing school and thinking about how great it would be to do my degree studies in the states. First off, it's not easy, as i'm sure you are aware. Money wise, the applying process, getting the visa etc.

My one suggestion before really looking into doing this is to ask yourself what are you benefitting from. If this course can only be done in america, then fair enough, you can't do anymore about it; go! But if you can do it here, work out whether it's going to be more beneficial for you here or in america. My guess is that it's much better here...but thats your decision! :)

Good luck

tinkerbell · 12 Aug 2007, 17:11

Very cool, but very expensive. Did look into it for my son but was going cost 3 times as much for fees. On that basis alone with living expenses aswell, made more sense to study in England. But im sure there may be away to do it if your determined. Good luck.

**RadioMaster** · 12 Aug 2007, 17:12

another important factor is the money. I had this originally in mind as well, a few years ago, and (at least for me) it would be a hell of a lot expensive.

edit: Didnt seen heli already mentioning money, sorry

edit nr 2: and dympna

Jayd · 12 Aug 2007, 18:03

As well as the money situation, the application process for a visa is very strict. They want prrof that you can support yourself, and that means getting a part-time job, but that is taking a job away from an American, and they don't want that. No harm in trying though, and if you do proceed, good luck.

meatloaf-unofficial · 12 Aug 2007, 18:37

I know - the money etc.. with a visa in mind too... I just thought that aswell as studying out there, I could get a feel for the life style as I have always wanted to see what it is like living in the US....

In my eyes; you only have one chance to live so why not make the most. I know it is a gamble but it may be do me right to do it!

More research for me! I know that, it maybe hard to do, but guess we'll see

mszee · 12 Aug 2007, 18:49

It's not easy to find the right college/University in America. We have to struggle through books and books to find the right one. Courses vary wildly but some are more technical/mathematical and some are more in humanitarian arts which you need.

This is one of the books that is commonly used in America when looking for college:

http://www.amazon.com/College-Board-...6937044&sr=1-1

This is an official publication of College Board and it lists statistics of colleges, etc.

Another resource would be:

http://www.collegeboard.com/splash/

At this point there are some advantages - pound is way over twice the dollar - so there should be some benefit to that.

Education is pretty expensive even for us - so don't know how much they charge a foreign person considering the fact that even we ourselves go out of state we pay sometimes 4 times as what we pay in State.

Did you look into student exchange programs? Is there something in it?

Afraid can't help anymore but if you have any specific questions that I might be able to look up, let me know...

mszee · 12 Aug 2007, 18:54

Forgot an important thing...

Be EXTREMELY careful...we have a lot of DODGY colleges...basically places that call themselves colleges but they are nothing but some secretarial or car mechanic schools and don't have any system of accreditation...that's why the book above or College Board...if the college isn't listed...it's not a real thing...

**RadioMaster** · 12 Aug 2007, 19:01

correct me, if I'm wrong (what I'll probably be, lol)

But, isnt college in the US something different than College in the UK?
What I mean is: Dont you need a 12th grade graduation to access college in the States?

I'm not sure, but it came to mind.

Heli · 12 Aug 2007, 21:48

Right, our colleges here in the UK is the US's highschool...well there last years (Seniors?). And our Universities is there Colleges. i think thats right.

vrg · 12 Aug 2007, 21:58

The basic difference between colleges and universities in the US is that a college only offers degrees up to Bachelor's - no grad school leading to Ph.D. degrees. Universities offer all degrees - Bachelor's, Master's and Ph.D.s.

Blackkat13 · 13 Aug 2007, 05:52

I don't know but there are a few colleges you can look up there in michigan but look up......

University of Michigan
University of Michigan State
Saginaw Valley

Again I don't go to college but I do know UofM does have a threather department. Again most sates have a university of what ever state...you could try New York or Califoria. I hope this helps out a small bit just look up most colleges and they will tell you.

LucyK! · 13 Aug 2007, 10:25

(Haven't read the whole thread so apologies if I'm repeating anything...)

But you might be better off looking at Uni's here in the UK who are associated with Uni's abroad and you can go via them, as it were...

My best friend, Helen, completed her Mechanical Engineering degree in Georgia having started it in Glasgow

Pudding · 13 Aug 2007, 11:52

Go to school in the UK and then go for work experience in the US

Pud

mszee · 13 Aug 2007, 14:20

Yeah, I guess we do have different system of education but yes you can get only up to Bachelor's in college which is definitely not a high school diploma.

However, we do have dodgy universities too...

mszee · 13 Aug 2007, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding

Go to school in the UK and then go for work experience in the US

Pud

I think getting student visa is easier than work visa...

LucyK! · 13 Aug 2007, 14:24

Apologies if this sounds patronising, it's not meant to!

Rather than going to the US for the experience of working, I think Pud meant to go there for "work experience" which is a system here whereby you go off to a business, school etc and experience what it's like to be a part of that, but you do it whilst still studying at your Uni/college...so I'm sure it'd still be a student visa as you've not graduated yet

mszee · 13 Aug 2007, 14:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy!

Apologies if this sounds patronising, it's not meant to!

Rather than going to the US for the experience of working, I think Pud meant to go there for "work experience" which is a system here whereby you go off to a business, school etc and experience what it's like to be a part of that, but you do it whilst still studying at your Uni/college...so I'm sure it'd still be a student visa as you've not graduated yet

No, no patronizing at all...I just don't know too much about that thing - "work experience"...don't know anybody who's done it...

Oh yes, I think I do...we call it internship here...is that it???

Still know only Americans who did that...

LucyK! · 13 Aug 2007, 14:31

Yeah an internship, I knew there was an American term for it but it completely escaped me!

mszee · 13 Aug 2007, 14:32

Having said that...we do have a lot of British owned companies here and a lot of British people working here...so I guess anything is possible...

mszee · 13 Aug 2007, 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy!

Yeah an internship, I knew there was an American term for it but it completely escaped me!

OK...yes, we do have internships...some paid and some unpaid...obviously unpaid ones are easier to get...I believe one can apply to them through college and on their own too...

Some internships are counted as courses for certain degrees...

mszee · 13 Aug 2007, 14:36

And as internship goes we do need an expert here which I am not...most jobs at the theater/movies are Union...which pretty much might eliminate possibility of an internship...

meatloaf-unofficial · 13 Aug 2007, 19:56

thanks for all your help - I have learned wuite abit from you lot.... I will look at the above resources Mszee....

mszee · 13 Aug 2007, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatloaf-unofficial

thanks for all your help - I have learned wuite abit from you lot.... I will look at the above resources Mszee....

Good luck!!!

Pudding · 14 Aug 2007, 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy!

Apologies if this sounds patronising, it's not meant to!

Rather than going to the US for the experience of working, I think Pud meant to go there for "work experience" which is a system here whereby you go off to a business, school etc and experience what it's like to be a part of that, but you do it whilst still studying at your Uni/college...so I'm sure it'd still be a student visa as you've not graduated yet

That's what I meant. I think American's call it an internship or something like that, a bit like what Monica Lewinsky was, but I wouln't expect Ross to be doing anything dodgy with a Cuban cigar

Pud

12 Aug 2007, 16:21	#1
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	Study In America - Help! Hi all I was wanting some help, maybe those who live in the US would be more help, I don't know... I was thinking, I am in ym last year now at school (finish summer 200eight) and when I leave school I want to go to Uni/college to study; Theatre Lighting... Now, I did think about Edinburgh but then I thought, why not the US, study Abroad.. Many students are studying internationally nowerdays... - thought of living and studying in the US would be cool! the thing is I am having trouble finding US Universities?Colleges that do my cource I am lookig for or similar and take International people - or cource you need a Visa, I would try and apply for one... So can any of you help me out? do you know of any places in the US that might do my cource? I tried google'ing it but it seems to prove to be a hard researcher! Post and let me know or pm or email me Thanks Ross

12 Aug 2007, 16:52	#2
Heli Daddy's little internet junkie Join Date: 29.01.2004 Location: Grimsby Posts: 4,596	I'm not american, but i remember when I was finishing school and thinking about how great it would be to do my degree studies in the states. First off, it's not easy, as i'm sure you are aware. Money wise, the applying process, getting the visa etc. My one suggestion before really looking into doing this is to ask yourself what are you benefitting from. If this course can only be done in america, then fair enough, you can't do anymore about it; go! But if you can do it here, work out whether it's going to be more beneficial for you here or in america. My guess is that it's much better here...but thats your decision! :) Good luck

12 Aug 2007, 17:11	#3
tinkerbell Mega Loafer Join Date: 16.09.2006 Location: N. Ireland Posts: 4,562	Very cool, but very expensive. Did look into it for my son but was going cost 3 times as much for fees. On that basis alone with living expenses aswell, made more sense to study in England. But im sure there may be away to do it if your determined. Good luck.

12 Aug 2007, 17:12	#4
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	another important factor is the money. I had this originally in mind as well, a few years ago, and (at least for me) it would be a hell of a lot expensive. edit: Didnt seen heli already mentioning money, sorry edit nr 2: and dympna

12 Aug 2007, 18:03	#5
Jayd If I could bust into hell....... I would Join Date: 13.06.2003 Location: Montclair, New Jersey Posts: 1,312	As well as the money situation, the application process for a visa is very strict. They want prrof that you can support yourself, and that means getting a part-time job, but that is taking a job away from an American, and they don't want that. No harm in trying though, and if you do proceed, good luck.

12 Aug 2007, 18:37	#6
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	I know - the money etc.. with a visa in mind too... I just thought that aswell as studying out there, I could get a feel for the life style as I have always wanted to see what it is like living in the US.... In my eyes; you only have one chance to live so why not make the most. I know it is a gamble but it may be do me right to do it! More research for me! I know that, it maybe hard to do, but guess we'll see

12 Aug 2007, 18:49	#7
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	It's not easy to find the right college/University in America. We have to struggle through books and books to find the right one. Courses vary wildly but some are more technical/mathematical and some are more in humanitarian arts which you need. This is one of the books that is commonly used in America when looking for college: http://www.amazon.com/College-Board-...6937044&sr=1-1 This is an official publication of College Board and it lists statistics of colleges, etc. Another resource would be: http://www.collegeboard.com/splash/ At this point there are some advantages - pound is way over twice the dollar - so there should be some benefit to that. Education is pretty expensive even for us - so don't know how much they charge a foreign person considering the fact that even we ourselves go out of state we pay sometimes 4 times as what we pay in State. Did you look into student exchange programs? Is there something in it? Afraid can't help anymore but if you have any specific questions that I might be able to look up, let me know...

12 Aug 2007, 18:54	#8
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	Forgot an important thing... Be EXTREMELY careful...we have a lot of DODGY colleges...basically places that call themselves colleges but they are nothing but some secretarial or car mechanic schools and don't have any system of accreditation...that's why the book above or College Board...if the college isn't listed...it's not a real thing...

12 Aug 2007, 19:01	#9
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	correct me, if I'm wrong (what I'll probably be, lol) But, isnt college in the US something different than College in the UK? What I mean is: Dont you need a 12th grade graduation to access college in the States? I'm not sure, but it came to mind.

12 Aug 2007, 21:48	#10
Heli Daddy's little internet junkie Join Date: 29.01.2004 Location: Grimsby Posts: 4,596	Right, our colleges here in the UK is the US's highschool...well there last years (Seniors?). And our Universities is there Colleges. i think thats right.

12 Aug 2007, 21:58	#11
vrg Super Loafer Join Date: 30.10.2005 Location: Just outside Manhattan Posts: 671	The basic difference between colleges and universities in the US is that a college only offers degrees up to Bachelor's - no grad school leading to Ph.D. degrees. Universities offer all degrees - Bachelor's, Master's and Ph.D.s.

13 Aug 2007, 05:52	#12
Blackkat13 Mega Loafer Join Date: 30.07.2006 Location: Hell, Michigan Posts: 1,989	I don't know but there are a few colleges you can look up there in michigan but look up...... University of Michigan University of Michigan State Saginaw Valley Again I don't go to college but I do know UofM does have a threather department. Again most sates have a university of what ever state...you could try New York or Califoria. I hope this helps out a small bit just look up most colleges and they will tell you.

13 Aug 2007, 10:25	#13
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	(Haven't read the whole thread so apologies if I'm repeating anything...) But you might be better off looking at Uni's here in the UK who are associated with Uni's abroad and you can go via them, as it were... My best friend, Helen, completed her Mechanical Engineering degree in Georgia having started it in Glasgow

13 Aug 2007, 11:52	#14
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	Go to school in the UK and then go for work experience in the US Pud

13 Aug 2007, 14:20	#15
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	Yeah, I guess we do have different system of education but yes you can get only up to Bachelor's in college which is definitely not a high school diploma. However, we do have dodgy universities too...

13 Aug 2007, 14:24	#17
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	Apologies if this sounds patronising, it's not meant to! Rather than going to the US for the experience of working, I think Pud meant to go there for "work experience" which is a system here whereby you go off to a business, school etc and experience what it's like to be a part of that, but you do it whilst still studying at your Uni/college...so I'm sure it'd still be a student visa as you've not graduated yet

13 Aug 2007, 14:31	#19
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	Yeah an internship, I knew there was an American term for it but it completely escaped me!

13 Aug 2007, 14:32	#20
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	Having said that...we do have a lot of British owned companies here and a lot of British people working here...so I guess anything is possible...

13 Aug 2007, 14:36	#22
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	And as internship goes we do need an expert here which I am not...most jobs at the theater/movies are Union...which pretty much might eliminate possibility of an internship...

13 Aug 2007, 19:56	#23
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	thanks for all your help - I have learned wuite abit from you lot.... I will look at the above resources Mszee....