DRFL MSO MIMED???

Wario · 16 Oct 2008, 06:13

I was looking at ROL's videos like I sometimes do and came across Meats performance at the national lottery somwhere between 1999 and 2002.

Meat seems to be miming to the MSO version of the song (Which is Identical).

Begs me the question, was the MSO performance mimed? MSO was filmed in 2004 and that looks like a 1999 Meat.

Heres the two links:

http://www.republic-of-loafdom.com/M...erLottery1.htm

http://www.republic-of-loafdom.com/M...erLottery2.htm

While I'm on this, Meat seems to be miming the Hudson Theater (Live around the world) recording of Took the Words:

http://www.republic-of-loafdom.com/M...rdsLive(1).htm

http://www.republic-of-loafdom.com/M...rdsLive(2).htm

hope i dont get shot for this

MeatGrl1 · 16 Oct 2008, 06:19

This looks like it's around 1998/99 judging by Patti's hair and the lack of Paul in the band so I think this is 100% live on this occassion, but could be wrong.
Also Pearl toured with her father around 1998/99 time.

**RadioMaster** · 16 Oct 2008, 08:45

my understanding was that thex 'fixed' some of the vocals on the DVD/CD with earlier live recordings. Most prominently noticable on CHSIB.

LucyK! · 16 Oct 2008, 10:28

It's definitely the 1999 band as Ray, Damon and Tom are there, but on the basis it's on the BBC National Lottery I'd have guessed at mimed...

*AndyK* · 16 Oct 2008, 10:33

Most BBC TV shows like the Lottery are mimed, regardless of the artist, it's BBC policy.

On another note, Chris, can you please make sure you post new threads in the right place, saves me having to tidy up in a morning

**allrevvedup** · 16 Oct 2008, 10:44

I remember the lottery dead ringer for love and it was definitely the mimed (lip synced) from the Live Around The World version

But then again, Meat seems to do this a lot, I remember him being on Jack Dee's show years ago and miming not a dry eye in the house, on this morning he mimed anything for love, there was another bbc show where he mimed cry over me and on strictly come dancing he certainly mimed it's all coming back to me now.

With overdubs and edits and the various technology that can make bad singers sound fantastic god knows what is being used on life dvd's

LucyK! · 16 Oct 2008, 10:48

This might go down like a lead balloon but I'd rather see Meat mime on tv (be it because he's chosen to or because the TV company have made him) which I watch for free and 'save' the live performances for tour which I pay to see

AndrewG · 16 Oct 2008, 11:30

Some people have too much time on their hands.

meatloaf-unofficial · 16 Oct 2008, 11:55

I would never of thought Dead Ringer MSO version was mimed.... sorry, I cant remmeber studying it alot - I just rocked to the whole thing

Being a LIVE DVD I woulda thought it was live, and I know some pieces were fixed, but 3 Bats is 100% Live

Oh and may I also add, that I heard (not sure if this is entirely true or not) but you mime on TV, because there's not enough time (especially in a live airing) to setup the band gear etc... hence its mimed to either a pre-recorded live version track or the original studio recording.

Either way, Meat seems to do both well - even when miming he really sings in...

djfierce · 16 Oct 2008, 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1

This looks like it's around 1998/99 judging by Patti's hair and the lack of Paul in the band so I think this is 100% live on this occassion, but could be wrong.

I'm not trying to pick bones here but i cant honestly see the logic here

samurai7 · 16 Oct 2008, 17:23

the lottery show is a lip-synch to the 1995 Live in the Neighborhood version of DRFL, as can be heard on the Live Around The World CD. They also mimed to this on TFI Friday as well.

**allrevvedup** · 16 Oct 2008, 18:11

I always thought the TFI version was live, not mimed

duke knooby · 16 Oct 2008, 18:13

it was identical vocally to the lottery one...

then again i thought not a dry eye was live on jack dee... have it on tape somewhere

**allrevvedup** · 16 Oct 2008, 18:20

Main reason i thought that was because it started with the drums brief intro and that meat had to walk down the steps from the studio to the stage, plus i didn't think any of TFI's performances were mimed...if that were the case Shaun Ryder cursing about 20 times during a song (think it was the sex pistols) on live tv wouldn't have happened and I seem to remember Chris Evans holding his head in his hands and apologising afterwards.

duke knooby · 16 Oct 2008, 18:22

i think the vast majority of tfi's bands performed live

samurai7 · 16 Oct 2008, 18:23

all of the TFI bands performed live - except Meat

**RadioMaster** · 16 Oct 2008, 18:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by meatloaf-unofficial

Oh and may I also add, that I heard (not sure if this is entirely true or not) but you mime on TV, because there's not enough time (especially in a live airing) to setup the band gear etc... hence its mimed to either a pre-recorded live version track or the original studio recording.

That's one of the reasons, also that way they can control the quality better. With a live performance you never know if it's gonna be out of tune, etc, so they in 99% of the cases they choose to have the artists mime their songs.
I personally would prefer a real live performance, even if theyre a chance of it being flat or out of tune, to a boring lip-synched version, but that's just my personal opinion.

Wario · 16 Oct 2008, 20:49

you mean the home by now, paradise, and Kiss performances were mimed?

would love to know were TFI got the Live recording of Kiss

For crying out loud · 16 Oct 2008, 21:59

cant tell with DRFL, but TTW seemed very live to me, his intake of breath followed the note and sound produced exactly.

samurai7 · 16 Oct 2008, 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

you mean the home by now, paradise, and Kiss performances were mimed?

would love to know were TFI got the Live recording of Kiss

what are you talking about? TFI Friday is a British show from the 90s. Meat was a guest, and he 'sang' DRFL. Where does it say he performed these others too? As far as I remember, he was interviewed, and then did the one song.

Wario · 17 Oct 2008, 03:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by samurai7

what are you talking about? TFI Friday is a British show from the 90s. Meat was a guest, and he 'sang' DRFL. Where does it say he performed these others too? As far as I remember, he was interviewed, and then did the one song.

Well Here are my videos to prove it:

Home By Now:

YouTube Video

Kiss:

YouTube Video

duke knooby · 17 Oct 2008, 04:13

thats tmf aint it??? the music factory

Wario · 17 Oct 2008, 06:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke knooby

thats tmf aint it??? the music factory

Those arnt mimed I can tell ya that much

**RadioMaster** · 17 Oct 2008, 08:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarioLoaf

Well Here are my videos to prove it:

Home By Now:

YouTube Video

Kiss:

YouTube Video

London Studio Concert Oct 31st, 1998, filmed in a (nearly) empty studio, and later broadcasted on dutch tv. Completely different thing.
If you want to know more about it, you better ask Debbie.

Wario · 17 Oct 2008, 08:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

London Studio Concert Oct 31st, 1998, filmed in a (nearly) empty studio, and later broadcasted on dutch tv. Completely different thing.
If you want to know more about it, you better ask Debbie.

My bad, though my DVD says TMF. Guess its a Channel thing

16 Oct 2008, 06:13	#1
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	DRFL MSO MIMED??? I was looking at ROL's videos like I sometimes do and came across Meats performance at the national lottery somwhere between 1999 and 2002. Meat seems to be miming to the MSO version of the song (Which is Identical). Begs me the question, was the MSO performance mimed? MSO was filmed in 2004 and that looks like a 1999 Meat. Heres the two links: http://www.republic-of-loafdom.com/M...erLottery1.htm http://www.republic-of-loafdom.com/M...erLottery2.htm While I'm on this, Meat seems to be miming the Hudson Theater (Live around the world) recording of Took the Words: http://www.republic-of-loafdom.com/M...rdsLive(1).htm http://www.republic-of-loafdom.com/M...rdsLive(2).htm hope i dont get shot for this

16 Oct 2008, 06:19	#2
MeatGrl1 No Day But Today Join Date: 29.05.2006 Location: Sitting on the steps outside looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 9,089	This looks like it's around 1998/99 judging by Patti's hair and the lack of Paul in the band so I think this is 100% live on this occassion, but could be wrong. Also Pearl toured with her father around 1998/99 time.

16 Oct 2008, 08:45	#3
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	my understanding was that thex 'fixed' some of the vocals on the DVD/CD with earlier live recordings. Most prominently noticable on CHSIB.

16 Oct 2008, 10:28	#4
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	It's definitely the 1999 band as Ray, Damon and Tom are there, but on the basis it's on the BBC National Lottery I'd have guessed at mimed...

16 Oct 2008, 10:33	#5
AndyK Relentless Join Date: 21.11.2003 Location: Over the top..... seeing what's on the other side Posts: 18,694	Most BBC TV shows like the Lottery are mimed, regardless of the artist, it's BBC policy. On another note, Chris, can you please make sure you post new threads in the right place, saves me having to tidy up in a morning

16 Oct 2008, 10:44	#6
allrevvedup "Most things that i worry about, never happen anyway" Join Date: 29.11.2003 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,354	I remember the lottery dead ringer for love and it was definitely the mimed (lip synced) from the Live Around The World version But then again, Meat seems to do this a lot, I remember him being on Jack Dee's show years ago and miming not a dry eye in the house, on this morning he mimed anything for love, there was another bbc show where he mimed cry over me and on strictly come dancing he certainly mimed it's all coming back to me now. With overdubs and edits and the various technology that can make bad singers sound fantastic god knows what is being used on life dvd's

16 Oct 2008, 10:48	#7
LucyK! The Monster Is Luce Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Posts: 7,547	This might go down like a lead balloon but I'd rather see Meat mime on tv (be it because he's chosen to or because the TV company have made him) which I watch for free and 'save' the live performances for tour which I pay to see

16 Oct 2008, 11:30	#8
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	Some people have too much time on their hands.

16 Oct 2008, 11:55	#9
meatloaf-unofficial Mega Loafer Join Date: 06.02.2006 Location: Touring the Country Posts: 2,558	I would never of thought Dead Ringer MSO version was mimed.... sorry, I cant remmeber studying it alot - I just rocked to the whole thing Being a LIVE DVD I woulda thought it was live, and I know some pieces were fixed, but 3 Bats is 100% Live Oh and may I also add, that I heard (not sure if this is entirely true or not) but you mime on TV, because there's not enough time (especially in a live airing) to setup the band gear etc... hence its mimed to either a pre-recorded live version track or the original studio recording. Either way, Meat seems to do both well - even when miming he really sings in...

16 Oct 2008, 17:23	#11
samurai7 Rock Star Join Date: 09.05.2005 Location: The future... Posts: 2,928	the lottery show is a lip-synch to the 1995 Live in the Neighborhood version of DRFL, as can be heard on the Live Around The World CD. They also mimed to this on TFI Friday as well.

16 Oct 2008, 18:11	#12
allrevvedup "Most things that i worry about, never happen anyway" Join Date: 29.11.2003 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,354	I always thought the TFI version was live, not mimed

16 Oct 2008, 18:13	#13
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,888	it was identical vocally to the lottery one... then again i thought not a dry eye was live on jack dee... have it on tape somewhere

16 Oct 2008, 18:20	#14
allrevvedup "Most things that i worry about, never happen anyway" Join Date: 29.11.2003 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,354	Main reason i thought that was because it started with the drums brief intro and that meat had to walk down the steps from the studio to the stage, plus i didn't think any of TFI's performances were mimed...if that were the case Shaun Ryder cursing about 20 times during a song (think it was the sex pistols) on live tv wouldn't have happened and I seem to remember Chris Evans holding his head in his hands and apologising afterwards.

16 Oct 2008, 18:22	#15
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,888	i think the vast majority of tfi's bands performed live

16 Oct 2008, 18:23	#16
samurai7 Rock Star Join Date: 09.05.2005 Location: The future... Posts: 2,928	all of the TFI bands performed live - except Meat

16 Oct 2008, 20:49	#18
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	you mean the home by now, paradise, and Kiss performances were mimed? would love to know were TFI got the Live recording of Kiss

16 Oct 2008, 21:59	#19
For crying out loud Senior Loafer Join Date: 25.08.2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 182	cant tell with DRFL, but TTW seemed very live to me, his intake of breath followed the note and sound produced exactly.

17 Oct 2008, 04:13	#22
duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,888	thats tmf aint it??? the music factory