Dianne Warren writes UK Eurovision entry

**Monstro** · 11 Jan 2009, 12:59

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7822137.stm

Can't see why the Meaty songs didn't get a mention

MeatGrl1 · 11 Jan 2009, 13:49

Thanks M

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Mind boggles

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daveake · 11 Jan 2009, 14:06

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Mind boggles

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Quite. I can think of much better choices.

Dave

duke knooby · 11 Jan 2009, 15:17

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Originally Posted by Monstro

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7822137.stm

Can't see why the Meaty songs didn't get a mention

well they did mention mainly well known, successful songs, so that kinda rules out the meaty ones

**The Flying Mouse** · 11 Jan 2009, 16:50

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Originally Posted by duke knooby

well they did mention mainly well known, successful songs, so that kinda rules out the meaty ones

I'd Lie For You And That's The Truth?

Got to number 2 in the singles charts?

The thing I find weird is that it's an AMERICAN songwritter.

I thought the whole point of Eurovision was that the song was created by the nation it represents, well, OK, that and voting for people you want to be chums with

**RadioMaster** · 11 Jan 2009, 16:56

didnt they scrap the rules that the writer had to be from the country and the song in the country's language a few years ago, when it stopped being popular (again)?

**The Flying Mouse** · 11 Jan 2009, 17:02

I guess they must have, as last I looked, Diane Warren wasn't from Ellesmere Port, Bognor, or any other place that can be considered English soil.

I'm surprised at the changing of the rule though.

**RadioMaster** · 11 Jan 2009, 17:23

they try everything to increase the popularity of the contest. since the russians win every year hardly anyone is watching.

Sarge · 11 Jan 2009, 17:32

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

didnt they scrap the rules that the writer had to be from the country and the song in the country's language a few years ago, when it stopped being popular (again)?

Don't know about the writer but you don't have to sing in your native language anymore. Don't know if the contest still makes any sense if the songs / writers / contestants don't come from the country they're supposed to represent.

I remember Celine Dion taking part in the contest some years ago. She sang for Switzerland.

**RadioMaster** · 11 Jan 2009, 17:39

some years ago? wasnt that in the 70s?

**The Flying Mouse** · 11 Jan 2009, 17:40

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

they try everything to increase the popularity of the contest. since the russians win every year hardly anyone is watching.

It's a shame that America is not in Europe actually.
That way Tony Blair could have inserted himself up the Presedents ass by voting for Americas song.
As it was, that wasn't an option so he had to get us involved in one middle eastern war after the other

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So consider yourself lucky.
All your country needs to do to kiss ass is vote for a dodgy song.
We have to send our chaps somewhere hot so the American military can pepper them with friendly fire

Sarge · 11 Jan 2009, 17:52

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Originally Posted by RadioMaster

some years ago? wasnt that in the 70s?

You're almost right. It was in 1988. I even found a German version of the song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqdN5CXmHOY

**RadioMaster** · 11 Jan 2009, 18:02

see, just nine years off

mszee · 11 Jan 2009, 22:04

I am sorry - wasn't following this since I've left Europe...here it doesn't appear to get a lot of publicity...unfortunately (?)

But how did Celine Dion represent Switzerland????

And I agree that every country should be represented by the native with the song in the native language written by the native songwriter...

Also...how is Russia winning every year??? They have pretty awful songs in general...dear and near only to Russians???

mszee · 11 Jan 2009, 22:06

Just read article...composer is still British...maybe he chose her lyrics for his music???

**The Flying Mouse** · 11 Jan 2009, 22:19

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Originally Posted by mszee

Also...how is Russia winning every year??? They have pretty awful songs in general...dear and near only to Russians???

Russia has two things.
Crap songs and shit loads of oil.

As long as you have plenty of the later, the former can be overlooked and you get to win.

Eurovision is nothing more or less than a political ass kissing convention set to music.

**The Flying Mouse** · 11 Jan 2009, 22:25

Funny enough, here's what Chris had to say on the matter in 2006.........

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Originally Posted by Chris

I posted this comment on here, way back in 2004 and then repeated it in 2005 and both years i was correct.

So here are my voting predictions:

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Greece won't vote for Turkey
nor will Germany vote for Austria (incidentally the German song will probably be about Love, Peace or Harmony!!)
Norway will vote for Sweden but this won't be reciprocated
The UK will vote for Malta
France won't vote for the UK
Cyprus will give Greece 12 points - and make a token gesture of a few points for Turkey
At least one country will try to make a political statement (rip off black clothes to reveal white ones underneath or similar)
And finally, The great God of Commentators that is Our Beloved And Gracious Leader Wogan (King Of TOG's) will announce which act he likes who will then come pitifully low!!

I suspect he was right in 2006, and in 2007, 2008, and will be in 2009.

Some things never change

**Monstro** · 11 Jan 2009, 22:57

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Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

Funny enough, here's what Chris had to say on the matter in 2006.........

I suspect he was right in 2006, and in 2007, 2008, and will be in 2009.

Some things never change

Apart from Sir Terrence!!!!!!

mszee · 11 Jan 2009, 23:00

Well, maybe then I am not missing much...on the other hand they will probably broadcast it on Russian TV which I have recently acquired subscription to...anybody can tell me when approximately this is taking place? Russian TV Guide is so way off, it is actually funny...

~Helen~ · 11 Jan 2009, 23:19

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Originally Posted by mszee

Well, maybe then I am not missing much...on the other hand they will probably broadcast it on Russian TV which I have recently acquired subscription to...anybody can tell me when approximately this is taking place? Russian TV Guide is so way off, it is actually funny...

Mid-May-ish usually I think?

And just to put my two-penneth in, I think Eurovision Song Contest is nothing about music except maybe to a couple of countries. It's political ass-kissing and each country taking part provides a song by way of entertainment. The way things are at the moment, England hasn't a chance of winning!

Edit: Despite that....I still love it!

angelica · 11 Jan 2009, 23:22

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Originally Posted by ~Helen~

And just to put my two-penneth in, I think Eurovision Song Contest is nothing about music except maybe to a couple of countries. It's political ass-kissing and each country taking part provides a song by way of entertainment. The way things are at the moment, England hasn't a chance of winning!

I agree with you Helen ... but I think it's always been that way for as long as I can remember ... and that's quite a long time!

duke knooby · 11 Jan 2009, 23:42

did i mention ireland always did very well?

Sarge · 12 Jan 2009, 10:10

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Originally Posted by mszee

Well, maybe then I am not missing much...

You're not missing anything. If at least the music was interesting but most of the time it's just torture.

There was only one band at last year's contest I liked (some long-haired heavy metal guys from Finland), most of the other performances were boring or annoying. It's a big disadvantage that they don't have to sing in their native language anymore (at least those Fins did) because now I understand the lyrics (unfortunately).

Something from the good old days

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky3s2967PZI

*AndyK* · 12 Jan 2009, 12:04

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Originally Posted by Monstro

Apart from Sir Terrence!!!!!!

True enough, but Sir Graham of Norton will be a worthy replacement I think.

daveake · 12 Jan 2009, 12:10

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Originally Posted by AndyK

True enough, but Sir Graham of Norton will be a worthy replacement I think.

With or without the traditional bottle of Jameson's?

Dave

11 Jan 2009, 12:59	#1
Monstro Promoted to Wario's spellchecker Join Date: 17.09.2005 Location: London Posts: 12,947	Dianne Warren writes UK Eurovision entry http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7822137.stm Can't see why the Meaty songs didn't get a mention

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MeatGrl1 No Day But Today Join Date: 29.05.2006 Location: Sitting on the steps outside looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 9,089	Thanks M . Mind boggles .

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RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	didnt they scrap the rules that the writer had to be from the country and the song in the country's language a few years ago, when it stopped being popular (again)?

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The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	I guess they must have, as last I looked, Diane Warren wasn't from Ellesmere Port, Bognor, or any other place that can be considered English soil. I'm surprised at the changing of the rule though.

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RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	they try everything to increase the popularity of the contest. since the russians win every year hardly anyone is watching.

11 Jan 2009, 17:39	#10
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	some years ago? wasnt that in the 70s?

11 Jan 2009, 18:02	#13
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	see, just nine years off

11 Jan 2009, 22:04	#14
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	I am sorry - wasn't following this since I've left Europe...here it doesn't appear to get a lot of publicity...unfortunately (?) But how did Celine Dion represent Switzerland???? And I agree that every country should be represented by the native with the song in the native language written by the native songwriter... Also...how is Russia winning every year??? They have pretty awful songs in general...dear and near only to Russians???

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mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	Just read article...composer is still British...maybe he chose her lyrics for his music???

11 Jan 2009, 23:00	#19
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	Well, maybe then I am not missing much...on the other hand they will probably broadcast it on Russian TV which I have recently acquired subscription to...anybody can tell me when approximately this is taking place? Russian TV Guide is so way off, it is actually funny...

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duke knooby Mega Loafer Join Date: 24.06.2005 Location: belfast Posts: 17,888	did i mention ireland always did very well?