Interesting new video

LP · 26 Dec 2009, 13:38

I found this on YouTube. It's from the Rock and Roll camp that Meat did recently.

On the one hand it's a bit disrespectful as it's been shot after Meat asked for the cameras to be turned off...

...on the other hand it's great to hear him fired up, shouting, swearing and genuinely being the big Meat Loaf character we all love. And I thought had mellowed.

YouTube Video

Moonlight shadow · 29 Dec 2009, 22:20

Is a Master!
Fantastico Meat!

RSG · 29 Dec 2009, 22:35

Exactly!

suzieq · 31 Dec 2009, 01:41

Just wow! The man practices what he preaches. And I could listen to that lecture for hours (what a gift he's given these up and comers). Sorry for the fact that someone recorded against his wishes, but not sorry for have seen it.

Suzieq

suzieq · 31 Dec 2009, 18:26

An afterthought: I can't stop thinking about this video, I've watched it 3 times and it is emblazed in my mind. I'm not sure why I'm so affected by Meat's lesson here, I'm still trying to figure that out, but it did leave a huge positive impression on me which caught me off guard.

Again, I am sorry that this video was recorded against Meat's wishes, but this video has left me with reason number 1001 why I am a such a huge Meat Loaf fan. My educated guess that Meat didn't want this recorded was because he may have felt that this little glimpse of information he gave this band would expose some of his own magic to his fans. Or was it the number of F bombs he was about to drop? Naw, not the latter.

For 10 minutes +, Meat (the man) gives this band a piece of Meat (the performer) and that is so selfless. And what he says is 100% true.

How many times have you been in audience and you can feel that tension before Meat takes stage? And before he even makes a sound? And guess what? He does it right now....he creates a tension with his tweets and between his posts here...he practices what he preaches and he's a master at it.

This video just confirmed that I do feel what I feel and Meat is the one who makes me feel that way. Completely captivated 100% of his live show and 100% during his CD playing with magic intact all the way.

Sorry so long, but I had to get all that out.
Suzieq

RSG · 31 Dec 2009, 20:20

nice afterthought. I always like to read your posts susieq. One thing is certain is that when Meat and the NLE play to an audience. They really do work hard.

howlerformeatloaf · 31 Dec 2009, 20:54

I cant wait to see my first one but when I do I am sure I will feel the same way. I agree Suzie it was not the latter I think he was worried about lol

suzieq · 31 Dec 2009, 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSG

nice afterthought. I always like to read your posts susieq. One thing is certain is that when Meat and the NLE play to an audience. They really do work hard.

What a nice thing to say about my posts, RSG. Thank you. And you are certainly right about the hard work that Meat and the NLE put into their live shows.

Quote:

Originally Posted by howlerformeatloaf

I cant wait to see my first one but when I do I am sure I will feel the same way. I agree Suzie it was not the latter I think he was worried about lol

Howler, I have no doubt you will be drawn in when you get to go to your first Meat concert.

Suzieq

RSG · 31 Dec 2009, 22:55

I got a feeling this new record will capture the intensity and energy the live shows provide.

lisa01 · 01 Jan 2010, 00:48

I thought the video was fantastic i loved meat loaf in the video i thought he looked very well and i cant wait for the album to come out

CarylB · 01 Jan 2010, 01:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzieq

How many times have you been in audience and you can feel that tension before Meat takes stage? And before he even makes a sound?

Suzieq

I've been going to Meat's concerts for .. gosh, over 30 years now .. and have always loved to watch him pace the stage and take ownership of every inch of the auditorium and every soul in it. He's the ultimate example of ecopower in action!!

And I've always seen him as a magician on stage, so it was lovely to hear him describe what he does as just that

.. always something magic, always something new .. and the passion people are always bowled over by and that he puts into everything he does was so evident in his tutorial .. spellbinding!!

Caryl

carole · 01 Jan 2010, 03:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzieq

An afterthought: I can't stop thinking about this video, I've watched it 3 times and it is emblazed in my mind. I'm not sure why I'm so affected by Meat's lesson here, I'm still trying to figure that out, but it did leave a huge positive impression on me which caught me off guard.

Again, I am sorry that this video was recorded against Meat's wishes, but this video has left me with reason number 1001 why I am a such a huge Meat Loaf fan. My educated guess that Meat didn't want this recorded was because he may have felt that this little glimpse of information he gave this band would expose some of his own magic to his fans. Or was it the number of F bombs he was about to drop? Naw, not the latter.

For 10 minutes +, Meat (the man) gives this band a piece of Meat (the performer) and that is so selfless. And what he says is 100% true.

How many times have you been in audience and you can feel that tension before Meat takes stage? And before he even makes a sound? And guess what? He does it right now....he creates a tension with his tweets and between his posts here...he practices what he preaches and he's a master at it.

This video just confirmed that I do feel what I feel and Meat is the one who makes me feel that way. Completely captivated 100% of his live show and 100% during his CD playing with magic intact all the way.

Sorry so long, but I had to get all that out.
Suzieq

Thanks for posting Caryl, it really gave us an insight into what Meat puts into his shows, and how lucky those guys were to be given those tips from Meat. He really is a great teacher. Well said Suzie, couldn't have said it better myself, you really summed up how I feel about Meat as well. I'm torn between being sorry it was recorded against his wishes, but am also glad I saw it. That is so true that he has us in the palm of his hand through the whole show and captivates us till the end with his magic.

Carole

mib · 01 Jan 2010, 13:03

Thanks for posting that video.

Vickip · 01 Jan 2010, 18:04

Thanks for posting it LP

Megan · 02 Jan 2010, 02:21

This was an awesome insight into Meat...I agree with Susieq... he grabs me before he gets on stage, during the show, and i am in awe after the show... i can listen to his CDs non-stop ... he touches me. Thanks for posting this video!

suzieq · 03 Jan 2010, 22:06

Video down by Red Pony.

MissAsh · 04 Jan 2010, 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzieq

Video down by Red Pony.

Drat, I've been away for a few days with only dial up internet so I didn't get to see it.

I guess it's best that way if it was recorded against Meat's wishes though.

**RadioMaster** · 04 Jan 2010, 23:44

dont worry, youre not the only one lol

evil nickname · 05 Jan 2010, 00:08

Quote:

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Red Pony Tours.

I wonder what copyrights held by Red Pony Tours are being violated in a video of a critique of a live performance.

As far as I know, and I am not a IP-lawyer, the copyright of the recording lies with whoever recorded it, and its content doesn't seem to meet the criteria for an original work as intended in copyright law. And to be clear, that Meat doesn't want it filmed is another matter and doesn't seem a copyright infringement to me.

**The Flying Mouse** · 05 Jan 2010, 00:51

I suppose that it has something to do with the terms and conditions signed by those who attended the rock camp.

suzieq · 05 Jan 2010, 01:15

Yes, I agree Flying Mouse. Sort of like the NFL, MLB, NHL and other sporting groups where they say retransmission of any information is prohibited without expressed written consent of (fill in the applicable name here). So, while it might not be copyrighted as we know it, it is still protected information.

Suzieq

evil nickname · 05 Jan 2010, 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse

I suppose that it has something to do with the terms and conditions signed by those who attended the rock camp.

Could be.

Basically, I am interested in copyright and related issues on the internet, and based on what I know, I find it an odd copyright claim.

CarylB · 05 Jan 2010, 01:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzieq

Yes, I agree Flying Mouse. Sort of like the NFL, MLB, NHL and other sporting groups where they say retransmission of any information is prohibited without expressed written consent of (fill in the applicable name here). So, while it might not be copyrighted as we know it, it is still protected information.

Suzieq

Exactly .. and similar to theatres/arenas where recording/taping/photography is prohibited .. Plus Meat clearly says at the beginning "Turn off the cameras".

Whether or not it's copyright per se or not (and there seem to be as many definitions of this regarding the internet as we've had hot dinners

), Meat didn't give permission, in fact specifically refused it, wanted it removed from the internet, and Utube seems to be acting on reasonable requests from artists now to remove bootlegs and other illicitly recorded items.

I admit to viewing it, although I felt a bit uncomfortable about doing so .. but imo Meat was perfectly entitled to request its removal given the circumstances, and Utube right to remove it. Whether it's defined legally as copright is moot and probably hard to establish, given the plethora of definitions around .. but it's a convenient way to explain its removal I think .. and lets us know where Meat stands

Caryl

Sarge · 05 Jan 2010, 02:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil nickname

I find it an odd copyright claim.

It's not that odd when you consider a particular other video that was taken off along with this one.

nikox1 · 05 Jan 2010, 03:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil nickname

Could be.

Basically, I am interested in copyright and related issues on the internet, and based on what I know, I find it an odd copyright claim.

it was meats work, a song belonging to him? case closed really
if someone stuck a video of you running around your living room but naked!!
would you not ask to take it down?

not that i am saying you do such things of course!!
anyway its youtube who would be taken to court, if they refused to take it off

01 Jan 2010, 00:48	#10
lisa01 Super Loafer Join Date: 01.04.2009 Location: Ashington in Northumberland Posts: 334	Interesting new video I thought the video was fantastic i loved meat loaf in the video i thought he looked very well and i cant wait for the album to come out

29 Dec 2009, 22:20	#2
Moonlight shadow Super Loafer Join Date: 27.11.2004 Location: Huelva Andalucia Spain Posts: 248	Is a Master! Fantastico Meat!

29 Dec 2009, 22:35	#3
RSG Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	Exactly!

31 Dec 2009, 01:41	#4
suzieq Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.10.2008 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 2,319	Just wow! The man practices what he preaches. And I could listen to that lecture for hours (what a gift he's given these up and comers). Sorry for the fact that someone recorded against his wishes, but not sorry for have seen it. Suzieq

31 Dec 2009, 18:26	#5
suzieq Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.10.2008 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 2,319	An afterthought: I can't stop thinking about this video, I've watched it 3 times and it is emblazed in my mind. I'm not sure why I'm so affected by Meat's lesson here, I'm still trying to figure that out, but it did leave a huge positive impression on me which caught me off guard. Again, I am sorry that this video was recorded against Meat's wishes, but this video has left me with reason number 1001 why I am a such a huge Meat Loaf fan. My educated guess that Meat didn't want this recorded was because he may have felt that this little glimpse of information he gave this band would expose some of his own magic to his fans. Or was it the number of F bombs he was about to drop? Naw, not the latter. For 10 minutes +, Meat (the man) gives this band a piece of Meat (the performer) and that is so selfless. And what he says is 100% true. How many times have you been in audience and you can feel that tension before Meat takes stage? And before he even makes a sound? And guess what? He does it right now....he creates a tension with his tweets and between his posts here...he practices what he preaches and he's a master at it. This video just confirmed that I do feel what I feel and Meat is the one who makes me feel that way. Completely captivated 100% of his live show and 100% during his CD playing with magic intact all the way. Sorry so long, but I had to get all that out. Suzieq

31 Dec 2009, 20:20	#6
RSG Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	nice afterthought. I always like to read your posts susieq. One thing is certain is that when Meat and the NLE play to an audience. They really do work hard.

31 Dec 2009, 20:54	#7
howlerformeatloaf loaf howler Join Date: 15.08.2007 Location: Hershey, Pa Posts: 360	I cant wait to see my first one but when I do I am sure I will feel the same way. I agree Suzie it was not the latter I think he was worried about lol

31 Dec 2009, 22:55	#9
RSG Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	I got a feeling this new record will capture the intensity and energy the live shows provide.

01 Jan 2010, 13:03	#13
mib Medium/Paranormal Investigator Join Date: 22.12.2006 Location: Swansea,Wales. Posts: 253	Thanks for posting that video.

01 Jan 2010, 18:04	#14
Vickip Mega Loafer Join Date: 07.02.2003 Location: Posts: 8,101	Thanks for posting it LP

02 Jan 2010, 02:21	#15
Megan Super Loafer Join Date: 01.01.2010 Location: Texas Posts: 213	This was an awesome insight into Meat...I agree with Susieq... he grabs me before he gets on stage, during the show, and i am in awe after the show... i can listen to his CDs non-stop ... he touches me. Thanks for posting this video!

03 Jan 2010, 22:06	#16
suzieq Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.10.2008 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 2,319	Video down by Red Pony.

04 Jan 2010, 23:44	#18
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	dont worry, youre not the only one lol

05 Jan 2010, 00:51	#20
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	I suppose that it has something to do with the terms and conditions signed by those who attended the rock camp.

05 Jan 2010, 01:15	#21
suzieq Mega Loafer Join Date: 26.10.2008 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 2,319	Yes, I agree Flying Mouse. Sort of like the NFL, MLB, NHL and other sporting groups where they say retransmission of any information is prohibited without expressed written consent of (fill in the applicable name here). So, while it might not be copyrighted as we know it, it is still protected information. Suzieq