Email reply from CH5... What they had to say...

Kev · 08 Jul 2003, 22:48

I emailed them the minute they cut meat voicing my disaprovle at that had happened and they have just replied to me now with the following...

Quote:

Subj: DO/84184/JC
Date: 08/07/03 18:52:32 GMT Daylight Time
From: DutyOffice@five.tv
To: ICWUKE@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)

Your Reference: DO/84184/JC (Please quote this reference in all further correspondence)

Date: 8th July 2003

Dear Kev

Thank you for your recent e-mail regarding Party In The Park.

We were sorry to read of your comments regarding Meatloaf‘s act.

An eight hour broadcast is a marathon and it would be contractually impossible for us to show the whole set from every act and some of the performances had to be brought to screen ‘as live,’ in order to ensure the broadcast complied with ITC guidelines for taste and decency.

Thank you for your interest in Five.

Yours sincerely

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-----Original Message-----
From: ICWUKE@aol.com [mailto:ICWUKE@aol.com]
Sent: 06 Jul 2003 14:11
To: Duty Office
Subject: Meat Loaf

I cannot believe you have totally screwed over Meat Loaf and cut to Craig David and not have Anything for love showing... what is that about???

Kev Iddon

www.five.tv
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MBrevard · 08 Jul 2003, 23:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by icwuke

An eight hour broadcast is a marathon and it would be contractually impossible for us to show the whole set from every act and some of the performances had to be brought to screen ‘as live,’ in order to ensure the broadcast complied with ITC guidelines for taste and decency.

Thanks, icwuke, for posting this! I can understand the first part of the response. As aggravating as it is, that makes sense.

But what in the world do they mean by the second part?? What part of CHSIB, AFL or BOOH (and Meat's performance of them) had to be cut for "taste and decency"??

Am I reading this section incorrectly (it's got some strange coding in it)?? Or did they just find another way of insulting him??

Just curious about everyone's take on this...

Thanks again!

Love,
MB
xxx

Jen · 08 Jul 2003, 23:11

I too recieved a similar reply from Channel 5...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Channel 5

We were disappointed to read your comments regarding the coverage of this event, and have logged them for the attention of all relevant Five Personnel.

...here's hoping they play more Meat on the highlights show.

Bigmomma · 09 Jul 2003, 00:15

no i think you did read it correctly and it does say for decency that it was
cut and yet they dont feel the need to cut the girls who are barely
wearing anything it is just one excuse after another.
do youre self a favour and waste any more time and effort on them
just boycott them or if you feel the need set up an on line petition
im sure that from what i have read on here the past couple of days
there are hell of a lot of people who would sign it.
big momma

original sin · 09 Jul 2003, 01:21

well at least you had a reply that's more than i've had so far!!!
If nothing comes tomorrow I'm sending another. As far as i'm concerned it's a double insult as they used his name for there advertising......." and later we have Meat Loaf" etc etc...........I mean the televised event is for the people at home not the people there!!! so why keep telling everyone he's on as your selling point if you're gonna cut him???? gggrrrr

**SueW** · 09 Jul 2003, 01:38

Maybe they were worried about Meat Loaf swearing on TV? Something that the likes of Kim Marsh (who I believed was aired live) is unlikely to do.

As it was, he did use on word (which was aired) that this board won't allow us to use!

Just my guess.....

Sue
http://www.KasimInfo.com

original sin · 09 Jul 2003, 02:01

possible, however until its happened you don't know about it and its like the over running stuff, you don't know untill you're past the time.

dottie · 09 Jul 2003, 12:52

They didn't bother e mailing me back neither

Crystal Eyes · 09 Jul 2003, 15:49

Channel 5 has sunk lower in my disapproval. Thinking about it still makes my blood boil!

cerysmeatloaf · 09 Jul 2003, 23:20

there was review about the pitp program on virgin my isp basily all it was saying is that meatloaf was saying frieging in tv they didnt say anything like he did a grate prefomance i was mad if any one would like to read the review i can paste on here

Testify · 09 Jul 2003, 23:22

yes plz!!

cerysmeatloaf · 09 Jul 2003, 23:24

this is the review

FOUL-MOUTH MEATLOAF

Rock star Meatloaf has caused outrage by swearing live on a Channel 5 broadcast.

The star was being interviewed during the coverage of children's pop concert Party in the Park when he launched into a foul-mouthed tirade.

And despite being warned not to, the tubby singer repeated the word "fr***ing" three times within a minute.

The star was being interviewed by RI:SE presenter Liz Bonin when the outrage happened.

Recreating a character from his latest movie he said: "The cause of that fr***ing - cut - you can bleep me there."

Liz stepped in with an apology but Meatloaf countered: "I said fr***ing. Yes, you can say fr***ing."

Liz replied: "You can't say that - maybe in America. We do apologise."

Viewer Mark James said: "It was outrageous. There would have been millions of children watching.

"The concert was aimed at kids - the presenters should have stopped him and not let him say the word three times - that is just terrible and unprofessional."

A spokesman for Channel 5 said: "The presenter apologised on screen and that is all we have to say on the matter."

Testify · 09 Jul 2003, 23:39

they need to get there heads out the ass!!

Guppie · 09 Jul 2003, 23:56

Strange thing... this censureship. In the Netherlands, it's far less strict. A person can say the F word on television and nobody give a F...

tbuck · 10 Jul 2003, 00:03

For Crying Out Loud...
what the heck is the matter with "fricking"?

It's a euphemism, don't think any kids were trerrilby traumatized.
Wonder if they allow "Gosh darn"?

If they are so worried about the kids, why don't they make some of those young female mimes wear more clothes? Blatantly sexualizing everything is a more serious issue re: kids than the use of that word.

JMHO,
T

Guppie · 10 Jul 2003, 00:16

That's ALL? he said "fricking" , not even "~~~~ing"?? Djeez...

edit: eh... between [...] was the word starting with fu..

Testify · 10 Jul 2003, 00:19

i thought it was friggin?? either way it didnt bother me one bit

Terri · 10 Jul 2003, 00:45

I'm gobsmacked

- not a word was said about what a great performance he gave, despite channel 5's big muck up with sound etc.

Call that a review - It stinks

But thanks for sharing it with us any way!

original sin · 10 Jul 2003, 01:17

That is hysterical..... children pop show indeed!...........walk in to any shcool playing field and they'll teach you some language that would need explaining............what a bunch of double standards.......about time they got down from their ivory towers and into the real world!!

Cathie · 10 Jul 2003, 01:22

I'm really lost for words...
Channel Five mucked up the performances even though Meat gave it all that he had and then some writer has the nerve to complain about so called "swearing".
Not happy.

**The Flying Mouse** · 10 Jul 2003, 02:12

That is so hipocritical

.
The amount of sexual references in pop music today is unbelievable.The way they dress is terrible considering they are supposed to be role models.Am I the only one who thinks that Britney Spears dressed in school uniform doing a provocotive dance is just a little bit on the sick side?

These people will phone up to complain about Meat's language then rush out to buy their kids the latest eminem album.
These people really need to take a look at themselves.

Jen · 10 Jul 2003, 03:17

Completely agree.

Out of all the artists (if you can call some of them that) Meat clearly gave the most effort and this is the kinda thanks he gets

tbuck · 10 Jul 2003, 09:43

Exactly FM, Meat uses a euphemism, fricking or frigging, whatever. He gets bashed for that? But Brittany Spears can prance around in an outfit that appears to encourage pedophilia and the media says not a word!

Truth is the media uses sex to sell, so Brittany is OK. They want to pretend they are concerned about kids by bashing Meat...give me a break. What is this idiot's email, he needs to be told he's an idiot. Well, better his bosses need to be told. Yeah, like any of them listen or care

T

cerysmeatloaf · 10 Jul 2003, 11:04

ok im so mad i agre with what you saying the flying mouse about Britney Spears ok so let me say this tv can let Britney Spears dance around close to men in im a slave for you but not let meat loaf say friggin on tv ITS NOT SWEARING

im just mad im about redy to blow and go nutts

dottie · 10 Jul 2003, 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by original sin

That is hysterical..... children pop show indeed!...........walk in to any shcool playing field and they'll teach you some language that would need explaining............what a bunch of double standards.......about time they got down from their ivory towers and into the real world!!

Oh so true - I work in a school and have been on the receiving end of such language - its a natural "Queens English" for a great many young adults today - What really matters is that Meat gave the fans passion with his music and songs, at least he doesn't need backing tracks and electronic gizmo's to enhance his performance, what you see is what you get. Most of the other "artists" will be long gone and forgotten while Meat still rocks on and will live in our hearts forever. If they were to pull their heads out of theirs a..e's they might just understand where we're all coming from

09 Jul 2003, 00:15	#4
Bigmomma Super Loafer Join Date: 07.07.2003 Location: Somewhere in time in my mind......... Posts: 655	email reply no i think you did read it correctly and it does say for decency that it was cut and yet they dont feel the need to cut the girls who are barely wearing anything it is just one excuse after another. do youre self a favour and waste any more time and effort on them just boycott them or if you feel the need set up an on line petition im sure that from what i have read on here the past couple of days there are hell of a lot of people who would sign it. big momma

09 Jul 2003, 01:21	#5
original sin Sinner Join Date: 15.04.2003 Location: cyber space Posts: 2,457	well at least you had a reply that's more than i've had so far!!! If nothing comes tomorrow I'm sending another. As far as i'm concerned it's a double insult as they used his name for there advertising......." and later we have Meat Loaf" etc etc...........I mean the televised event is for the people at home not the people there!!! so why keep telling everyone he's on as your selling point if you're gonna cut him???? gggrrrr

09 Jul 2003, 01:38	#6
SueW Moderator Join Date: 14.04.2002 Posts: 1,345	Maybe they were worried about Meat Loaf swearing on TV? Something that the likes of Kim Marsh (who I believed was aired live) is unlikely to do. As it was, he did use on word (which was aired) that this board won't allow us to use! Just my guess..... Sue http://www.KasimInfo.com

09 Jul 2003, 02:01	#7
original sin Sinner Join Date: 15.04.2003 Location: cyber space Posts: 2,457	possible, however until its happened you don't know about it and its like the over running stuff, you don't know untill you're past the time.

09 Jul 2003, 12:52	#8
dottie queen post- whore extraordinaire Join Date: 29.01.2003 Location: Still Rockin' at "72" Posts: 13,181	They didn't bother e mailing me back neither

09 Jul 2003, 15:49	#9
Crystal Eyes Super Loafer Join Date: 09.07.2003 Location: In the clouds Posts: 649	Channel 5 has sunk lower in my disapproval. Thinking about it still makes my blood boil!

09 Jul 2003, 23:20	#10
cerysmeatloaf Super Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Location: south wales uk Posts: 454	there was review about the pitp program on virgin my isp basily all it was saying is that meatloaf was saying frieging in tv they didnt say anything like he did a grate prefomance i was mad if any one would like to read the review i can paste on here

09 Jul 2003, 23:22	#11
Testify ragamuffin Join Date: 21.05.2003 Location: xxx daydreaming xxx Posts: 5,023	yes plz!!

09 Jul 2003, 23:24	#12
cerysmeatloaf Super Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Location: south wales uk Posts: 454	this is the review FOUL-MOUTH MEATLOAF Rock star Meatloaf has caused outrage by swearing live on a Channel 5 broadcast. The star was being interviewed during the coverage of children's pop concert Party in the Park when he launched into a foul-mouthed tirade. And despite being warned not to, the tubby singer repeated the word "fr*ing" three times within a minute. The star was being interviewed by RI:SE presenter Liz Bonin when the outrage happened. Recreating a character from his latest movie he said: "The cause of that fring - cut - you can bleep me there." Liz stepped in with an apology but Meatloaf countered: "I said fring. Yes, you can say fr*ing." Liz replied: "You can't say that - maybe in America. We do apologise." Viewer Mark James said: "It was outrageous. There would have been millions of children watching. "The concert was aimed at kids - the presenters should have stopped him and not let him say the word three times - that is just terrible and unprofessional." A spokesman for Channel 5 said: "The presenter apologised on screen and that is all we have to say on the matter."

09 Jul 2003, 23:39	#13
Testify ragamuffin Join Date: 21.05.2003 Location: xxx daydreaming xxx Posts: 5,023	they need to get there heads out the ass!!

09 Jul 2003, 23:56	#14
Guppie www.meat-loaf.nl Join Date: 28.12.2002 Location: Brabant, The Netherlands Posts: 1,300	Strange thing... this censureship. In the Netherlands, it's far less strict. A person can say the F word on television and nobody give a F...

10 Jul 2003, 00:03	#15
tbuck Super Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: USA Posts: 355	For Crying Out Loud... what the heck is the matter with "fricking"? It's a euphemism, don't think any kids were trerrilby traumatized. Wonder if they allow "Gosh darn"? If they are so worried about the kids, why don't they make some of those young female mimes wear more clothes? Blatantly sexualizing everything is a more serious issue re: kids than the use of that word. JMHO, T

10 Jul 2003, 00:16	#16
Guppie www.meat-loaf.nl Join Date: 28.12.2002 Location: Brabant, The Netherlands Posts: 1,300	That's ALL? he said "fricking" , not even "~~~~ing"?? Djeez... edit: eh... between [...] was the word starting with fu..

10 Jul 2003, 00:19	#17
Testify ragamuffin Join Date: 21.05.2003 Location: xxx daydreaming xxx Posts: 5,023	i thought it was friggin?? either way it didnt bother me one bit

10 Jul 2003, 00:45	#18
Terri Super T Join Date: 14.05.2003 Posts: 1,235	I'm gobsmacked - not a word was said about what a great performance he gave, despite channel 5's big muck up with sound etc. Call that a review - It stinks But thanks for sharing it with us any way!

10 Jul 2003, 01:17	#19
original sin Sinner Join Date: 15.04.2003 Location: cyber space Posts: 2,457	That is hysterical..... children pop show indeed!...........walk in to any shcool playing field and they'll teach you some language that would need explaining............what a bunch of double standards.......about time they got down from their ivory towers and into the real world!!

10 Jul 2003, 01:22	#20
Cathie Sweet But Sadistic Join Date: 18.06.2003 Location: Lincolnshire/Essex depending on the time of year! Posts: 4,098	I'm really lost for words... Channel Five mucked up the performances even though Meat gave it all that he had and then some writer has the nerve to complain about so called "swearing". Not happy.

10 Jul 2003, 02:12	#21
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	That is so hipocritical . The amount of sexual references in pop music today is unbelievable.The way they dress is terrible considering they are supposed to be role models.Am I the only one who thinks that Britney Spears dressed in school uniform doing a provocotive dance is just a little bit on the sick side? These people will phone up to complain about Meat's language then rush out to buy their kids the latest eminem album. These people really need to take a look at themselves.

10 Jul 2003, 03:17	#22
Jen Arrrgh! Join Date: 01.03.2003 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,938	Completely agree. Out of all the artists (if you can call some of them that) Meat clearly gave the most effort and this is the kinda thanks he gets

10 Jul 2003, 09:43	#23
tbuck Super Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: USA Posts: 355	Exactly FM, Meat uses a euphemism, fricking or frigging, whatever. He gets bashed for that? But Brittany Spears can prance around in an outfit that appears to encourage pedophilia and the media says not a word! Truth is the media uses sex to sell, so Brittany is OK. They want to pretend they are concerned about kids by bashing Meat...give me a break. What is this idiot's email, he needs to be told he's an idiot. Well, better his bosses need to be told. Yeah, like any of them listen or care T

10 Jul 2003, 11:04	#24
cerysmeatloaf Super Loafer Join Date: 20.04.2003 Location: south wales uk Posts: 454	ok im so mad i agre with what you saying the flying mouse about Britney Spears ok so let me say this tv can let Britney Spears dance around close to men in im a slave for you but not let meat loaf say friggin on tv ITS NOT SWEARING im just mad im about redy to blow and go nutts