Legacy

[LP]

Very serious (slightly morbid) question: Who is going to keep this very special brand of music alive? There really is nobody out there I can think of who 'gets' it. The music industry doesn't give a damn. Meat Loaf thinks he's invincible... yet there are millions of people who live and breathe this music and millions more who are yet to discover it... for this we require an ambassador, someone with belief and vision that goes beyond the commercial.

Meat Loaf / Steinman music is timeless but the people delivering it are mere mortals who will, one day, expire.

Is someone on the case with this?!

Perhaps we need a reality show ASAP :o)

[nikox1]

I never thought somebody could top Wario for such a random post lol

[loaferman61]

What makes Meat/Jim so unique is that there isn't anything else like it. It can not be duplicated. The few imitations and similar attempts at sounding like Meat Loaf (occasional Avantasia, Katrina and the "Nameless") etc. fall far short. This is the real deal and there is only one.

[nikox1]

I agree. Unique

[Danny L]

BAT OUT OF HELL The Musical. There I said it. And I guess tribute acts.

Pro shows, college/school productions, community theatre clubs etc. Hell it might even be made as a movie someday.

And of course ongoing replays on radio.

[ThatWriterGuy]

Not to mention the whole new generation of singers who are just emerging and recording Jim's songs (which you'll be hearing about very soon).

[White of High]

C'mon guys! Nobody. Since the 90ies music indutsry is different and Meat and his range wasn't very fresh on that time.

[duke knooby]

their legacy was, is and will continue to be, these magnificent stories delivered to us by a magnificent story teller, bringing so many aspects of the "human condition" to life.

timeless enjoyment, escapism, despair, rapture, passion and so on, for anyone who wants it

[AndrewG]

People will just remember, re-enact a bit here and there but it will never be quite the same.
See Joplin, Hendrix, The Doors, The Beatles (it was VERY short lived but people still talk about it re-enact it etc), Abba.
I actually think a lot of "the legacy" is already in the past. In 50 years time people will still talk about Bat but doubt many will talk about HCTB. The musical might have some legs but there is no way of knowing till a few years down the line. It may only last a year or two. Love Never Dies people already don't care about. People have also pretty much already forgotten about Whistle Down the Wind and considering the two names involved that is surprising too. There are only so many things artists and auteurs get remembered for in the long run. Most people will remember George Lucas for Star Wars but won't give a crap about THX1138 or the Ewok adventure movies. etc... Fans will know and still collect it all and that's ok too.

[stretch37]

Originally Posted by AndrewG

In 50 years time people will still talk about Bat but doubt many will talk about HCTB.

Then again, if you look at Johnny Cash's American Series of albums, released both when the was alive, then grieving the loss of June Carter Cash, and then posthumously, they are some of the most discussed albums of his career.

They made me a later fan of Cash, and are highly acclaimed later works by the artist.

Many artist have this happen. Just look at Ian Mckellen (Gandalf) or Michael Gambon (Dumbledore) or Ian Holm (Old Bilbo) or Betty White, or Kirk Douglas, who have become famous in new ways as older people.

I'd say don't rule out late career successes with Meat.

And after listening to BTWA for awhile now, I can say that it is on par with Cash's American Series, jsut with better vocals because Meat's not quite that old yet, although he does have some bumps and bruises

[AndrewG]

Originally Posted by stretch37

Then again, if you look at Johnny Cash's American Series of albums, released both when the was alive, then grieving the loss of June Carter Cash, and then posthumously, they are some of the most discussed albums of his career.

They made me a later fan of Cash, and are highly acclaimed later works by the artist.

Many artist have this happen. Just look at Ian Mckellen (Gandalf) or Michael Gambon (Dumbledore) or Ian Holm (Old Bilbo) or Betty White, or Kirk Douglas, who have become famous in new ways as older people.

I'd say don't rule out late career successes with Meat.

And after listening to BTWA for awhile now, I can say that it is on par with Cash's American Series, jsut with better vocals because Meat's not quite that old yet, although he does have some bumps and bruises

It's a good point. I think though for me that final legacy song surely would have to be What Part of My Body for Meat. A shame it won't be on Braver. It deserves to be imo. Cast albums just never are my favourites. They never seem to do either the musicals or artists justice somehow. Still haven't heard the long version of GATW so I can't judge that one nor some of the others in entirety on Braver.

[CarylB]

Meat has surely created a large legacy in terms of music .. and although Bat Out of Hell will always be the album most remembered, as long as it can be bought it is likely to encourage listeners to explore other albums. Steinman has created a legacy of songs that people will continue to record. Meat also will continue acting, and when he leaves touring behind, is I think likely to build on the reputation he has gained so far, and with more time to devote to this strand of his career, may well make a much wider mark in film, even TV.

Ian Mckellen, Michael Gambon and Ian Holm were of course pretty well known in their own country before the roles you mention Stretch But were Meat in future to get a role in a film that was a huge success like those, it would certainly put him on a wider map, even though that is not his objective.

[stretch37]

Originally Posted by CarylB

Meat has surely created a large legacy in terms of music .. and although Bat Out of Hell will always be the album most remembered, as long as it can be bought it is likely to encourage listeners to explore other albums. Steinman has created a legacy of songs that people will continue to record. Meat also will continue acting, and when he leaves touring behind, is I think likely to build on the reputation he has gained so far, and with more time to devote to this strand of his career, may well make a much wider mark in film, even TV.

Ian Mckellen, Michael Gambon and Ian Holm were of course pretty well known in their own country before the roles you mention Stretch But were Meat in future to get a role in a film that was a huge success like those, it would certainly put him on a wider map, even though that is not his objective.

Yeah well even Ian Holm was popular in the US and Canada back when Alies came out. But I mean Ian McKellen had a great low career success. Patrick Stewart did too with x-meno. Christopher Lee with saruman. And yes of course Michael gam von was huge way before Harry Potter:P

[proctorloaf]

Meat Loaf's legacy is already set. He proved that if you keep going you can break through. Jim's songs will be sung for many many years to come. They keep getting reinvented and along as there are teenagers, there will be a need for Jim's songs.

No one can carry the Steinman/Loaf torch after they have gone but the torch will continue to burn brightly for all of those who don't want to be left in the dark.

[stretch37]

Originally Posted by stretch37

Yeah well even Ian Holm was popular in the US and Canada back when Alies came out. But I mean Ian McKellen had a great low career success. Patrick Stewart did too with x-meno. Christopher Lee with saruman. And yes of course Michael gam von was huge way before Harry Potter:P

WTF was I smoking last night lol. Great spelling.

[Wario]

Their Kfc is Bat.


This is all that needs to be said. Boom. Done

[stretch37]

Meat's still in good shape for his age considering even some people 10 years younger

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/paul-dianno-cancer/

[AndrewG]

Originally Posted by stretch37

Meat's still in good shape for his age considering even some people 10 years younger

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/paul-dianno-cancer/

Don't know much about Iron Maiden but thought Bruce Dickinson was their front man.

[Evil Ernie]

Originally Posted by AndrewG

Don't know much about Iron Maiden but thought Bruce Dickinson was their front man.

He still is. This guy was the original singer but he was much different than Bruce.

[nikox1]

40+ million sales
519 weeks on the charts
7 songs
The voice and the genius
Nothing need be added

[Wario]

Originally Posted by Wario

Their Kfc is Bat.


This is all that needs to be said. Boom. Done

LEGACY not kfc wtf

[AndrewG]

Originally Posted by Wario

LEGACY not kfc wtf

They probably do use bats for chicken meat at KFC. Tastes like shit. Ozzie should know.

[Danny L]

BAT OUT OF HELL is the 19th best selling album in the UK of all time

[Wario]

Originally Posted by Danny L

BAT OUT OF HELL is the 19th best selling album in the UK of all time

What not number 5??

[AndrewG]

Originally Posted by Wario

What not number 5??

He's correct according to this.
Still impressive beating the likes of Jagged Little Pill, The Joshua Tree, Graceland, Grease, Abba Greatest Hits (original 70s release), Spice Girls, Lady Ga Ga and any of Coldplay's albums etc.