Website Talk

Dave · 03 Nov 2003, 22:28

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Originally Posted by rockfenris2005

So Meat Loaf's building this site HIMSELF

I know, first hand, that there is quite a buzz about Dreamweaver among at least a couple of members of the Neverland Express. I cannot say anything for sure about Meat as I have no direct contact with him and would not dare speculate, but have heard rumors he has played around with some code in the WYSIWYG himself.

ROCK ON FIRE BALL!!!

Vickip · 03 Nov 2003, 22:29

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Originally Posted by David M. Driskell

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockfenris2005

So Meat Loaf's building this site HIMSELF

I know, first hand, that there is quite a buzz about Dreamweaver among at least a couple of members of the Neverland Express. I cannot say anything for sure about Meat as I have no direct contact with him and would not dare speculate, but have heard rumors he has played around with some code in the WYSIWYG himself.

ROCK ON FIRE BALL!!!

Very cool David !!
Vicki

evil nickname · 03 Nov 2003, 23:13

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Originally Posted by David M. Driskell

I know, first hand, that there is quite a buzz about Dreamweaver among at least a couple of members of the Neverland Express. I cannot say anything for sure about Meat as I have no direct contact with him and would not dare speculate, but have heard rumors he has played around with some code in the WYSIWYG himself.

Here's for hoping that a professional webdesigner will take a look at the result then. Not impling that Meat and the rest of the band are bad at webdesign, but Dreamweaver does produce some awful HTML code...

Dave · 03 Nov 2003, 23:38

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Originally Posted by evil nickname

... Dreamweaver does produce some awful HTML code ...

Depending on what you are doing. Personally, I shiver at the mess Frontpage creates in the source code. I don't need no stinking commands to place an image.

ROCK ON FIRE BALL!!!

R. · 03 Nov 2003, 23:40

I certainly don't mind people talking about websites and html code and stuff, but this is tour talk and therefore off topic.

evil nickname · 03 Nov 2003, 23:56

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Originally Posted by R.

but this is tour talk and therefore off topic.

Yeah it is, but what you're gonna do about it?

R. · 03 Nov 2003, 23:58

Split the thread and continue this in Off topic?

Vickip · 04 Nov 2003, 00:08

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Originally Posted by David M. Driskell

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil nickname

... Dreamweaver does produce some awful HTML code ...

Depending on what you are doing. Personally, I shiver at the mess Frontpage creates in the source code. I don't need no stinking commands to place an image.

ROCK ON FIRE BALL!!!

I've been using Frontpage and haven't had any problems with it :)
But I've heard a lot of good things about Dreamweaver ... which one
do you guys recommend

Vicki

Juan Llanos · 04 Nov 2003, 00:11

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Originally Posted by David M. Driskell

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil nickname

... Dreamweaver does produce some awful HTML code ...

Depending on what you are doing. Personally, I shiver at the mess Frontpage creates in the source code. I don't need no stinking commands to place an image.

ROCK ON FIRE BALL!!!

To make a website... the best it's notepad... :P

Chris · 04 Nov 2003, 00:12

I personally liek the editor in netscape when i have to use one

Although i cannot grasp most of the WYSIWYG programs and much prefer simple text files in notepad!!

Just as an addendum: I have found aprogram called Limon which is freeware and creates online albums - very good if people ahve tour pictues!! Will try and find the link.

Vickip · 04 Nov 2003, 00:17

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Originally Posted by Chris

I personally liek the editor in netscape when i have to use one

Although i cannot grasp most of the WYSIWYG programs and much prefer simple text files in notepad!!

Just as an addendum: I have found aprogram called Limon which is freeware and creates online albums - very good if people ahve tour pictues!! Will try and find the link.

Sounds great ..... I'll try Notepad

Thanks !!
Vicki

evil nickname · 04 Nov 2003, 00:27

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Originally Posted by R.

Split the thread and continue this in Off topic? :))

Ah... I see... :D

Last couple of websites I've made are all done in Textpad. No what-you-see-is-whay-you-get-but-don't-look-at-the-sourcecode-cause-you-might-not-like-what-you-see program for me. Dreamweaver, Frontpage, etc, all produce code which is barely readable, not compliant to any standard (I mean: since when does a <table> have a height property?).
Whenever I make a website I try to make it work in both IE and Mozilla/Netscape - or just plain old (valid) XHTML 1.1 Transitional with CSS. If I produce valid HTML and CSS, and one of these browsers decides not to render it poperly - tough luck.

Juan Llanos · 04 Nov 2003, 00:30

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Originally Posted by evil nickname

Last couple of websites I've made are all done in Textpad. No what-you-see-is-whay-you-get-but-don't-look-at-the-sourcecode-cause-you-might-not-like-what-you-see program for me. Dreamweaver, Frontpage, etc, all produce code which is barely readable, not compliant to any standard (I mean: since when does a <table> have a height property?).
Whenever I make a website I try to make it work in both IE and Mozilla/Netscape - or just plain old (valid) XHTML 1.1 Transitional with CSS. If I produce valid HTML and CSS, and one of these browsers decides not to render it poperly - tough luck.

Textpad and xhtml 1.1 valid.... I do the same....

Vickip · 04 Nov 2003, 01:03

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Originally Posted by ongapisa

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil nickname

Last couple of websites I've made are all done in Textpad. No what-you-see-is-whay-you-get-but-don't-look-at-the-sourcecode-cause-you-might-not-like-what-you-see program for me. Dreamweaver, Frontpage, etc, all produce code which is barely readable, not compliant to any standard (I mean: since when does a <table> have a height property?).
Whenever I make a website I try to make it work in both IE and Mozilla/Netscape - or just plain old (valid) XHTML 1.1 Transitional with CSS. If I produce valid HTML and CSS, and one of these browsers decides not to render it poperly - tough luck.

Textpad and xhtml 1.1 valid.... I do the same....

Very interesting ....
Vicki

sherrie87 · 04 Nov 2003, 06:24

Chris said:

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Although i cannot grasp most of the WYSIWYG programs and much prefer simple text files in notepad!!

SO True, Chris! As part of my job as a school librarian, I've been trained in Dreamweaver, Frontpage and Novus EDU and I still find it light years easier (and less frustrating!) to just write my own code on notepad. Those "easy" programs seem to take a great deal of effort, then the result is never as satisfying as you could do with some basic html coding in notepad. I do a webpage for my school, but I am required to do it with a program called Novus EDU and I feel like I would have a much better handle on things if I could just write it all myself with html.

Sherrie

Chris · 04 Nov 2003, 10:22

At uni we had to use frontpage for a project and I hated it. The code itproduced even for simple pages was so overly complex that it p*ssed me off!!

Also does anyone else have trouble scanning the code from frontpage. Generally i scan throough the finished file to check i have remembered everything (I am a begger for not closing tabs!!!!!) and just find the code jumps a lot in it!!

Here is the link for the album creator I mentioned earlier. if you are just after a simple clickable thumbnails gallery it is really simple to use!!! Limon Photo Albums

03 Nov 2003, 23:40	#5
R. You dig. Join Date: 02.04.2002 Location: On the fothermucker Posts: 7,179	I certainly don't mind people talking about websites and html code and stuff, but this is tour talk and therefore off topic.

03 Nov 2003, 23:58	#7
R. You dig. Join Date: 02.04.2002 Location: On the fothermucker Posts: 7,179	Split the thread and continue this in Off topic?

04 Nov 2003, 00:12	#10
Chris Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Somewhere in the real world. Posts: 7,527	I personally liek the editor in netscape when i have to use one Although i cannot grasp most of the WYSIWYG programs and much prefer simple text files in notepad!! Just as an addendum: I have found aprogram called Limon which is freeware and creates online albums - very good if people ahve tour pictues!! Will try and find the link.

04 Nov 2003, 10:22	#16
Chris Mega Loafer Join Date: 14.04.2002 Location: Somewhere in the real world. Posts: 7,527	At uni we had to use frontpage for a project and I hated it. The code itproduced even for simple pages was so overly complex that it p*ssed me off!! Also does anyone else have trouble scanning the code from frontpage. Generally i scan throough the finished file to check i have remembered everything (I am a begger for not closing tabs!!!!!) and just find the code jumps a lot in it!! Here is the link for the album creator I mentioned earlier. if you are just after a simple clickable thumbnails gallery it is really simple to use!!! Limon Photo Albums