objects in the rear view mirror.

stewbeef · 14 Dec 2006, 01:49

that poor lad could have escaped death from crashing the plane if he a,kept the pitch of the plane to 15 degrease,kept the revs at 180rpm and put the vor navigation to irs he would have took off and landed safeley.{sorry just been on flight sim}

Pudding · 14 Dec 2006, 03:38

I don't think the pitch of the plane was the problem, because had he kept it level and not fish-tailing, then he'd have been OK. His main error was the Yaw and Roll. Also the RPM's is irrelevent, because he could have safely landed the plane in a glider fashion without the engines on.

Pud

**RadioMaster** · 14 Dec 2006, 15:15

Yeah, many 10 year old boys are experts in plane technology....

And actually, the song never says that he died in a PLANE, it just says "they said he crashed and burned", the plane was just an interpretation by Michael Bay, I assume.

Graet song and great video though

rick · 14 Dec 2006, 16:30

he could have been impaled on a tree as he tried to jump out of the plane just before it crashed ?

lorenzoduke · 14 Dec 2006, 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster

Yeah, many 10 year old boys are experts in plane technology....

And actually, the song never says that he died in a PLANE, it just says "they said he crashed and burned", the plane was just an interpretation by Michael Bay, I assume

Or whether he crashed and burned literally or figuratively - drugs, alcohol related etc...

djfierce · 14 Dec 2006, 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by lorenzoduke

Or whether he crashed and burned literally or figuratively - drugs, alcohol related etc...

yep! i only saw the video about 2 years ago, up till then i had always thought it was about someone going out of control (like the plane i guess

)
i.e they said he crashed and burned, i know i never learned why any boy should die so young.
Living where i grew up it was easy for me to apply this to people i knew, who seemed to have spiralled so far down to apparantly no return. para-phrasing and putting an artistic take on what folk were saying about these people, they crashed and burned, had messed up the early part of their lives so much that there was little hope for them as adults, they died so young.

I guess everybody has a different take and sometimes a personal one on different songs

M.Bison · 14 Dec 2006, 19:34

When I hear the "Crashed and Burned" line I think of the scene in the video as it's quite an emotional interpertation of the verse. BTW, who was the woman in the video that plays "The beauty on the edge of town?"

**The Flying Mouse** · 14 Dec 2006, 19:44

Michael Bay's video put a very strong image in the mind, and it's pretty hard to forget about it when thinking about the song.

I personally went a slightly different way with what the song means when I wrote my little Meat Loaf musical.

I agree that it could work pretty well as a metaphore when it comes to crashing and burning.

Supose it's all down to your own interpritation.

The "Beauty living on the edge of town" is an actress by the name of Dana Patrick.

Dated her once, and sure she looks good, but she's a crap cook

djfierce · 14 Dec 2006, 19:57

i agree the video interpretation is the better and strongest one.
My interpretaion though was a 13 year old's perspective at the time with no video to go by

Paul191 · 14 Dec 2006, 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE FLYING MOUSE

when I wrote my little Meat Loaf musical

needmoremeat · 14 Dec 2006, 22:35

I always thought of it literally as a car crash. I mean, planes don't have those words on their mirrors, do they?!

But that thought it could be drugs or whatever is good, gives it another perspective.
The lyric that gets me every time is "I know I'll never learn why any boy should die so young". So tragic, when you think about it.

**RadioMaster** · 14 Dec 2006, 22:50

Btw, did you notice that in one booklet, I cant remember which album, it says that the album is dedicated to a dead person named Kenny? so that has to be a true story

**Monstro** · 15 Dec 2006, 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE FLYING MOUSE

The "Beauty living on the edge of town" is an actress by the name of Dana Patrick.

Dated her once, and sure she looks good, but she's a crap cook

mszee · 15 Dec 2006, 22:42

For some reason I always thought that it's about somebody who has died in Vietnam war. This was a horrible time for America and, although Meat got rejected for being color blind, a lot of his contemporaries and friends did go to war...a lot of them lost their lives there...

**RadioMaster** · 15 Dec 2006, 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by mszee

For some reason I always thought that it's about somebody who has died in Vietnam war. This was a horrible time for America and, although Meat got rejected for being color blind, a lot of his contemporaries and friends did go to war...a lot of them lost their lives there...

These are great song lyrics and leave space for everybody´s personal interpretation. I think that´s one reason why the whole song so emotional, everyone can refer it on emotional (in this case painful) moments in their own lives. I always thought of a car crash, now I understand it´s because a friend of mine had such a crash a few years back and barely survived.

14 Dec 2006, 01:49	#1
stewbeef Junior Loafer Join Date: 17.07.2006 Location: manchester Posts: 39	objects in the rear view mirror. that poor lad could have escaped death from crashing the plane if he a,kept the pitch of the plane to 15 degrease,kept the revs at 180rpm and put the vor navigation to irs he would have took off and landed safeley.{sorry just been on flight sim}

14 Dec 2006, 03:38	#2
Pudding I'm A Prize Fight Lover... Join Date: 22.10.2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5,532	I don't think the pitch of the plane was the problem, because had he kept it level and not fish-tailing, then he'd have been OK. His main error was the Yaw and Roll. Also the RPM's is irrelevent, because he could have safely landed the plane in a glider fashion without the engines on. Pud

14 Dec 2006, 15:15	#3
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	Yeah, many 10 year old boys are experts in plane technology.... And actually, the song never says that he died in a PLANE, it just says "they said he crashed and burned", the plane was just an interpretation by Michael Bay, I assume. Graet song and great video though

14 Dec 2006, 16:30	#4
rick badass bus driver Join Date: 12.11.2003 Location: what do you mean no bloody ticket grandma Posts: 485	he could have been impaled on a tree as he tried to jump out of the plane just before it crashed ?

14 Dec 2006, 19:34	#7
M.Bison The Lurker in The Shadows Join Date: 03.12.2002 Location: Cork Posts: 209	When I hear the "Crashed and Burned" line I think of the scene in the video as it's quite an emotional interpertation of the verse. BTW, who was the woman in the video that plays "The beauty on the edge of town?"

14 Dec 2006, 19:44	#8
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	Michael Bay's video put a very strong image in the mind, and it's pretty hard to forget about it when thinking about the song. I personally went a slightly different way with what the song means when I wrote my little Meat Loaf musical. I agree that it could work pretty well as a metaphore when it comes to crashing and burning. Supose it's all down to your own interpritation. The "Beauty living on the edge of town" is an actress by the name of Dana Patrick. Dated her once, and sure she looks good, but she's a crap cook

14 Dec 2006, 19:57	#9
djfierce Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2005 Location: Posts: 3,596	i agree the video interpretation is the better and strongest one. My interpretaion though was a 13 year old's perspective at the time with no video to go by

14 Dec 2006, 22:35	#11
needmoremeat Mega Loafer Join Date: 23.11.2003 Location: Sunderland, UK Posts: 1,416	I always thought of it literally as a car crash. I mean, planes don't have those words on their mirrors, do they?! But that thought it could be drugs or whatever is good, gives it another perspective. The lyric that gets me every time is "I know I'll never learn why any boy should die so young". So tragic, when you think about it.

14 Dec 2006, 22:50	#12
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	Btw, did you notice that in one booklet, I cant remember which album, it says that the album is dedicated to a dead person named Kenny? so that has to be a true story

15 Dec 2006, 22:42	#14
mszee Mega Loafer Join Date: 29.03.2006 Location: And you think you're down under??? Posts: 26,252	For some reason I always thought that it's about somebody who has died in Vietnam war. This was a horrible time for America and, although Meat got rejected for being color blind, a lot of his contemporaries and friends did go to war...a lot of them lost their lives there...