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Nick · 29 Mar 2007, 23:38

Hey everyone! I just bought a 1971 Us realease of Stoney and Meat Loaf, Never Opened, never played. It Still Has the shrinkwrap on it.... And im woundering.... What should I do with it? I'm almost afraid to open and play it! Should I record it on My Computer? Should I leave it in its original wrapping to save the value? Or should i play it casually?

mszee · 29 Mar 2007, 23:46

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Originally Posted by Nick

Hey everyone! I just bought a 1971 Us realease of Stoney and Meat Loaf, Never Opened, never played. It Still Has the shrinkwrap on it.... And im woundering.... What should I do with it? I'm almost afraid to open and play it! Should I record it on My Computer? Should I leave it in its original wrapping to save the value? Or should i play it casually?

Bwahahhahahaha...I've started almost identical thread some time ago...if you look at my profile you can probably find it way back when...

Guess what...I STILL didn't do anything with it...

But how funny...identical item...identical question...

Blackkat13 · 29 Mar 2007, 23:56

Well if you open it then it gets devauled.....then again I don't like to leave collectors items in boxs....Your choice really...If it was me I'd open it just cut the plastic along where the record comes out.

evil nickname · 30 Mar 2007, 00:34

It's all up to you, but here are some points for consideration:

A: How do you know that it's still in the original shrinkwrap? It's quite possible that someone rewrapped it.
B: Do you want to buy an used copy to play?
C: What's the point of having a record if you're not gonna play it?

djfierce · 30 Mar 2007, 01:48

i think the last point is the best

If you want to preserve it the best way possible then open it, and play it the once to record it, then just listen to the recording, saving it from any possible damage

**Monstro** · 30 Mar 2007, 02:07

exactly, if you've got it play it, was what it was made for!!!

I collect but it's for me not for any value, I've played and opened everything

**Monstro** · 30 Mar 2007, 02:30

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Originally Posted by Monstro

I collect but it's for me not for any value, I've played and opened everything

Is it just my sense of humour or is there a Pandora's box joke in there somewhere?

**The Flying Mouse** · 30 Mar 2007, 02:56

To be honest, I think that you should have avoided the item if you have an ethical issue wether to open it or not.

Yes, why buy a record you never intend to open?, but an unopened copy of the 71 S&ML isn't something you see every day.

I have an unopened packet of "Indian backed playing cards" manufactured for Woolworths in either the 60's or 70's (I forget which now).

These are REALLY nice playing cards to work with, especially when coated with zinc sterate (the fans are something else) but I CANNOT bring myself to open that pack.

I don't think I ever intend on doing so.

I do believe that a rare item should be preserved.

One of my fav sayings on the collecting hobby is that "we do not own these things, even though we have paid money for them.It is merely our privaledge to take care of them for the future generations".

My advice, either keep it as an unoped item, or buy an already opened copy and sell it on e bay to someone who might value it for what it is.

SW31 · 30 Mar 2007, 03:05

wow

MeatGrl1 · 30 Mar 2007, 03:25

I second that Chris !

I am a collector.
I now have a fair amount of Picture Discs but I cannot bring myself to play them for fear of wrecking the picture, I think they are pretty for example I have an unplayed picture "7 of "Runnin' For The Red Light", and in it's original case, then I have earlier ones such as "Modern Girl", "If You Really Want To" etc. Too many to name but that is me, I personally wouldn't play it but this is tough I might just slit it so I could get the record out and listen. I have this but it wasn't sealed, I love it it's fantastic.
Did I mention I also have this from 1987...

I think this is rare!

SW31 · 30 Mar 2007, 03:33

very i got mine way back when it was first relased & its only ever been played once in 20 years

wow 4000 post ---- cool

samurai7 · 30 Mar 2007, 04:40

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Originally Posted by MeatGrl1

I second that Chris !

I have an unplayed picture "7 of "Runnin' For The Red Light

Really? I thought there was only a 12" pic disc of that

WizPig · 30 Mar 2007, 05:40

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Originally Posted by MeatGrl1

I second that Chris !

I am a collector.
I now have a fair amount of Picture Discs but I cannot bring myself to play them for fear of wrecking the picture, I think they are pretty for example I have an unplayed picture "7 of "Runnin' For The Red Light", and in it's original case, then I have earlier ones such as "Modern Girl", "If You Really Want To" etc. Too many to name but that is me, I personally wouldn't play it but this is tough I might just slit it so I could get the record out and listen. I have this but it wasn't sealed, I love it it's fantastic.
Did I mention I also have this from 1987...

I think this is rare!

THEY ARE!

wow

does he sing on those records? Or is it just interviews?

MeatGrl1 · 30 Mar 2007, 12:33

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Originally Posted by Son Of Meat Loaf

Really? I thought there was only a 12" pic disc of that

Yes I meant "12

!
Sorry my bad.

MeatGrl1 · 30 Mar 2007, 12:34

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Originally Posted by WizPig

THEY ARE!

wow

does he sing on those records? Or is it just interviews?

I have not played them but as this says; The Chris Tetley Interviews I would think it's all talk

!

**RadioMaster** · 30 Mar 2007, 15:29

I personally wouldnt see any reason in buying something I havent heard (like these interviews), and then not listening to them. It's something else with an item you already know...lets say a picture disc of BOOH or Bat2...but then again, that's just me.

**The Flying Mouse** · 30 Mar 2007, 18:49

I would DEFFINATLY listen to the Chris Tetley pic disc if it was pre opened.

Blackkat13 · 30 Mar 2007, 20:50

Well what if you could play the records once more and put them on to cd some how Would you do that? That way you are not going to ruin the album.

mszee · 30 Mar 2007, 21:02

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Originally Posted by Blackkat13

Well what if you could play the records once more and put them on to cd some how Would you do that? That way you are not going to ruin the album.

That's what I wanted to do when I bought the album first...but when it came to me all sealed...somehow I never got to it...something still prevents me from it....maybe because I completely forgot until now that I own it...

Good point somewhere above...we really don't know if the album wasn't open before and then re-sealed...that is still a big question...although my shrink wrap is yellowed...guess still doesn't prove anything at the end of the day...

WizPig · 30 Mar 2007, 21:37

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Originally Posted by MeatGrl1

I have not played them but as this says; The Chris Tetley Interviews I would think it's all talk

!

if you ever do play it, imagine the surprise you might get if he does Execution day or something obscure live on it! LMAO

MeatGrl1 · 30 Mar 2007, 22:52

I have him do Execution Day on the London Melt Down Concert

It is awesome

!

It's one record the single pic is one side and the pic of him with Amy and Elaine Goff are the other side of it, sorry for confusion.

djfierce · 30 Mar 2007, 23:18

no offence to anyone really!

But to me it boils down to whether you're a fan or a collector.
I am a fan first then a collector of his items, I could never justify owning something i never listened to, Meat and Stoney went to alot of trouble to record that vinyl for people to listen to so to me it is a tad disrespectful to not appreciate what they made together imo. If the potential value bothers you then dont open it, but if you bought it because you wanted that album as you havent heard it before or dont have it already then play it. Playing it just once to record it will still leave it in immaculate condition and certainly in better shape than most old vinyls out there

There is no right answer, it just depends on your perspective and reason for buying it.

If i saw something in its original packaging that i already have and used AND liked, then i would buy it for collector purposes but i certainly wouldnt buy something i dont have then not play it at all. That doesnt make sense to me as a fan!

Playing a picture disc will not affect the picture unless you plan on sitting there digging a needle into it so playing it once to hear what you have never heard wont hurt one bit!

If i was an artist i wouldnt be that impressed if one of my fans said 'i have all your old stuff but i never listened to it!'

my reply would be simple 'you what! that's what i made it for! for you to listen to!' but thats just me

My view is this: Records were made to make music not fill draws!

**RadioMaster** · 30 Mar 2007, 23:38

I get the impression here, that you can listen to a record only once, then the needle destroyed it forever.
Guys, for decades people had nothing but vinyl records, and what the hell do you think they did with them???
Right, THEY PLAYED THEM!

We have many of my fathers favourite vinyl records from the 60s here at home, which he play approx 1000 times, and the sound is still good. You got a few crackles here and there, but does that really affect the quality?
Maybe, but on the other hand I heard TONS of mp3 recordings much worse than these records!

It wont break from playing one, two, or ten times!

If it would be as I picture it from comments like these, people must have had a VERY expensive life, always buying the same record again and again and again....

Sorry, had to get it off my chest.....pooh

No offence to anybody, of course

Nick · 31 Mar 2007, 00:55

Well, when My record gets here, im going to play it. because honestly i don''t think I am going to sell such a rare cool item such as that. As far as picture discs, I dont play them. I Hang those on my wall. The get plent of use being up there.

LostSoul · 02 Apr 2007, 16:39

Just play it. Unless you plan to live forever...

29 Mar 2007, 23:38	#1
Nick Super Loafer Join Date: 17.08.2005 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 431	This is the Best Place for advise sooo.... Hey everyone! I just bought a 1971 Us realease of Stoney and Meat Loaf, Never Opened, never played. It Still Has the shrinkwrap on it.... And im woundering.... What should I do with it? I'm almost afraid to open and play it! Should I record it on My Computer? Should I leave it in its original wrapping to save the value? Or should i play it casually?

30 Mar 2007, 03:25	#10
MeatGrl1 No Day But Today Join Date: 29.05.2006 Location: Sitting on the steps outside looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 9,089	I second that Chris ! I am a collector. I now have a fair amount of Picture Discs but I cannot bring myself to play them for fear of wrecking the picture, I think they are pretty for example I have an unplayed picture "7 of "Runnin' For The Red Light", and in it's original case, then I have earlier ones such as "Modern Girl", "If You Really Want To" etc. Too many to name but that is me, I personally wouldn't play it but this is tough I might just slit it so I could get the record out and listen. I have this but it wasn't sealed, I love it it's fantastic. Did I mention I also have this from 1987... I think this is rare! Last edited by MeatGrl1; 30 Mar 2007 at 03:36.

30 Mar 2007, 22:52	#21
MeatGrl1 No Day But Today Join Date: 29.05.2006 Location: Sitting on the steps outside looking so restless and reckless and lost! Posts: 9,089	I have him do *Execution Day* on the *London Melt Down Concert* It is awesome! It's one record the single pic is one side and the pic of him with Amy and Elaine Goff are the other side of it, sorry for confusion.

30 Mar 2007, 23:18	#22
djfierce Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2005 Location: Posts: 3,596	no offence to anyone really! But to me it boils down to whether you're a fan or a collector. I am a fan first then a collector of his items, I could never justify owning something i never listened to, Meat and Stoney went to alot of trouble to record that vinyl for people to listen to so to me it is a tad disrespectful to not appreciate what they made together imo. If the potential value bothers you then dont open it, but if you bought it because you wanted that album as you havent heard it before or dont have it already then play it. Playing it just once to record it will still leave it in immaculate condition and certainly in better shape than most old vinyls out there There is no right answer, it just depends on your perspective and reason for buying it. If i saw something in its original packaging that i already have and used AND liked, then i would buy it for collector purposes but i certainly wouldnt buy something i dont have then not play it at all. That doesnt make sense to me as a fan! Playing a picture disc will not affect the picture unless you plan on sitting there digging a needle into it so playing it once to hear what you have never heard wont hurt one bit! If i was an artist i wouldnt be that impressed if one of my fans said 'i have all your old stuff but i never listened to it!' my reply would be simple 'you what! that's what i made it for! for you to listen to!' but thats just me My view is this: Records were made to make music not fill draws! Last edited by djfierce; 30 Mar 2007 at 23:30.

29 Mar 2007, 23:56	#3
Blackkat13 Mega Loafer Join Date: 30.07.2006 Location: Hell, Michigan Posts: 1,989	Well if you open it then it gets devauled.....then again I don't like to leave collectors items in boxs....Your choice really...If it was me I'd open it just cut the plastic along where the record comes out.

30 Mar 2007, 00:34	#4
evil nickname Guest Join Date: 19.04.2003 Posts: 2,238	It's all up to you, but here are some points for consideration: A: How do you know that it's still in the original shrinkwrap? It's quite possible that someone rewrapped it. B: Do you want to buy an used copy to play? C: What's the point of having a record if you're not gonna play it?

30 Mar 2007, 01:48	#5
djfierce Mega Loafer Join Date: 15.06.2005 Location: Posts: 3,596	i think the last point is the best If you want to preserve it the best way possible then open it, and play it the once to record it, then just listen to the recording, saving it from any possible damage

30 Mar 2007, 02:07	#6
Monstro Promoted to Wario's spellchecker Join Date: 17.09.2005 Location: London Posts: 12,946	exactly, if you've got it play it, was what it was made for!!! I collect but it's for me not for any value, I've played and opened everything

30 Mar 2007, 02:56	#8
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	To be honest, I think that you should have avoided the item if you have an ethical issue wether to open it or not. Yes, why buy a record you never intend to open?, but an unopened copy of the 71 S&ML isn't something you see every day. I have an unopened packet of "Indian backed playing cards" manufactured for Woolworths in either the 60's or 70's (I forget which now). These are REALLY nice playing cards to work with, especially when coated with zinc sterate (the fans are something else) but I CANNOT bring myself to open that pack. I don't think I ever intend on doing so. I do believe that a rare item should be preserved. One of my fav sayings on the collecting hobby is that "we do not own these things, even though we have paid money for them.It is merely our privaledge to take care of them for the future generations". My advice, either keep it as an unoped item, or buy an already opened copy and sell it on e bay to someone who might value it for what it is.

30 Mar 2007, 03:05	#9
SW31 in my coup de vil waiting for pardise by the dashboard light Join Date: 24.11.2003 Location: middlesbrough smoggy rules Posts: 8,137	wow

30 Mar 2007, 03:33	#11
SW31 in my coup de vil waiting for pardise by the dashboard light Join Date: 24.11.2003 Location: middlesbrough smoggy rules Posts: 8,137	very i got mine way back when it was first relased & its only ever been played once in 20 years wow 4000 post ---- cool

30 Mar 2007, 15:29	#16
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	I personally wouldnt see any reason in buying something I havent heard (like these interviews), and then not listening to them. It's something else with an item you already know...lets say a picture disc of BOOH or Bat2...but then again, that's just me.

30 Mar 2007, 18:49	#17
The Flying Mouse Armed ba$tard and Jo's other half. Join Date: 06.08.2002 Location: In the middle of nowhere near the end of the line. Posts: 16,104	I would DEFFINATLY listen to the Chris Tetley pic disc if it was pre opened.

30 Mar 2007, 20:50	#18
Blackkat13 Mega Loafer Join Date: 30.07.2006 Location: Hell, Michigan Posts: 1,989	Well what if you could play the records once more and put them on to cd some how Would you do that? That way you are not going to ruin the album.

30 Mar 2007, 23:38	#23
RadioMaster The German Join Date: 11.03.2006 Location: some kind of hunting lodge for rich weirdos... Posts: 15,778	I get the impression here, that you can listen to a record only once, then the needle destroyed it forever. Guys, for decades people had nothing but vinyl records, and what the hell do you think they did with them??? Right, THEY PLAYED THEM! We have many of my fathers favourite vinyl records from the 60s here at home, which he play approx 1000 times, and the sound is still good. You got a few crackles here and there, but does that really affect the quality? Maybe, but on the other hand I heard TONS of mp3 recordings much worse than these records! It wont break from playing one, two, or ten times! If it would be as I picture it from comments like these, people must have had a VERY expensive life, always buying the same record again and again and again.... Sorry, had to get it off my chest.....pooh No offence to anybody, of course

31 Mar 2007, 00:55	#24
Nick Super Loafer Join Date: 17.08.2005 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 431	Well, when My record gets here, im going to play it. because honestly i don''t think I am going to sell such a rare cool item such as that. As far as picture discs, I dont play them. I Hang those on my wall. The get plent of use being up there.

02 Apr 2007, 16:39	#25
LostSoul Got metal? Join Date: 06.11.2003 Location: Switzerland Posts: 2,109	Just play it. Unless you plan to live forever...