Meat Loaf to appear on German TV in December

[Smithie]

So Patti won't be there?

She's supposed to be performing with the SAS Band on Dec. 3.

Aw, I wish Patti could be there too.
Is the Wetten Das show live or pre-taped?

[Nici]

Originally Posted by glamourgirl

So Patti won't be there?

She's supposed to be performing with the SAS Band on Dec. 3.

I was wondering THE Same! Will Patti be on Wetten Das?

[pierre]

Originally Posted by pierre

Is the Wetten Das show live or pre-taped?

Wetten, dass..? is a live show .

The German chancellor Angela Merkel has cancelled. (no joke)
Lenny Kravitz and Karl Lagerfeld will be there.

[Smithie]

Originally Posted by Nici

I was wondering THE Same! Will Patti be on Wetten Das?

Maybe Meat will film a video for All of Me with Patti and the band and on Wetten Das, he'll do an interview and play the music video of the song.
It would be really expensive to fly the band out to Germany for one tv show that is mimed.

[wizardofodd]

Great news for Meat, I wonder if it is still set for a Feb release in UK? I mean it wouldn’t be too much hassel to jump on a plane and do a bit of UK promotion in December, great time for promotion platforms on UK TV at the moment with Graham Norten, Alan Carr, Strictly all being on the TV at the moment. Even if they just release an actual single and do a bit of cheeky promotion in the UK before the Feb release it would all help.

[wizardofodd]

If i was in charge of promotion (which sadly i am not) i think the key thing is too really push a Single. It is true to say Meat is more an album seller but the general audience only really recognise Meat with the big singles (maybe with the exception of Bat 1 album) because the singles are played on radio and the videos are played on the TV repeatedly. The truth is a general audience might not actually know Meat has done anything in years because we haven’t really had a proper single release since 2006 and that was a bad choice of song in the first place. For example I know about 5 Lady GaGa songs, they are all singles but i couldn’t name a single album only song. Radio still has power and so do music videos with the popularity of Youtube. Meat might be able to release an Album but without a strong single that a general audience can hear he will not become relevant. He is indeed a legend but the audience should understand he is a legendary performer with new music and not just a bloke holding on to his success from the 70s and early 90s.

I would get Meat single promoting in the UK in early December with the intention of Album release in February. I would have a second single release in February a week before the album release, possible Our love and our Soles as a love ballad would go perfectly with the Valentine’s day period. The live album should be a bonus CD with the album and the Live DVD should be released on the same day. Of course i know promotion is not that easy at ALL. I also realise i have gone WAY off topic, i apologise.

[ShelbyLee]

Maybe Meat will film a video for All of Me with Patti and the band and on Wetten Das, he'll do an interview and play the music video of the song.
It would be really expensive to fly the band out to Germany for one tv show that is mimed.

That would be a logical idea. Since the Wetten Das performances are mimed, it doesn't make much sense to fly the band over. And it would be sad if Patti was missing in the band.

[ShelbyLee]

Originally Posted by wizardofodd

I would get Meat single promoting in the UK in early December with the intention of Album release in February. I would have a second single release in February a week before the album release, possible Our love and our Soles as a love ballad would go perfectly with the Valentine’s day period. The live album should be a bonus CD with the album and the Live DVD should be released on the same day. Of course i know promotion is not that easy at ALL. I also realise i have gone WAY off topic, i apologise.

That's a brilliant idea.

[robgomm]

This is exciting news, so Germany will be the next place the album gets released. I wonder why they have decided to do that earlier than the rest of europe, he's not going to tour there is he? So All Of Me will be the lead single everywhere by the looks of it, that's fine by me.

[nikox1]

it would be great if he starts at least the single promotion early everywhere. its what needs to be done imo, really build it up!!! get on a few of them shows and he will chart very well.

[chairboys]

Originally Posted by robgomm

This is exciting news, so Germany will be the next place the album gets released. I wonder why they have decided to do that earlier than the rest of europe, he's not going to tour there is he? So All Of Me will be the lead single everywhere by the looks of it, that's fine by me.

I believe All Of Me is a very 'safe' choice. Too safe.
Remember it is still only 4th in our poll with just one in ten of us recommending it as the worldwide single.
I fear it is not going to have the impact we all hope for.
But, I will be delighted to be proven wrong.

[renegadeangel]

Originally Posted by wizardofodd

If i was in charge of promotion (which sadly i am not) i think the key thing is too really push a Single. It is true to say Meat is more an album seller but the general audience only really recognise Meat with the big singles (maybe with the exception of Bat 1 album) because the singles are played on radio and the videos are played on the TV repeatedly. The truth is a general audience might not actually know Meat has done anything in years because we haven’t really had a proper single release since 2006 and that was a bad choice of song in the first place. For example I know about 5 Lady GaGa songs, they are all singles but i couldn’t name a single album only song. Radio still has power and so do music videos with the popularity of Youtube. Meat might be able to release an Album but without a strong single that a general audience can hear he will not become relevant. He is indeed a legend but the audience should understand he is a legendary performer with new music and not just a bloke holding on to his success from the 70s and early 90s.

I would get Meat single promoting in the UK in early December with the intention of Album release in February. I would have a second single release in February a week before the album release, possible Our love and our Soles as a love ballad would go perfectly with the Valentine’s day period. The live album should be a bonus CD with the album and the Live DVD should be released on the same day. Of course i know promotion is not that easy at ALL. I also realise i have gone WAY off topic, i apologise.

That sounds about right. I still think though that there might possibly be some steinman songs on the album. Not sure how they would fit in with the sound but it would be a huge selling feature.
ALL OF ME is a great first single. I agree too that OUR LOVE AND OUR SOULS would be the next best single. But I have very little faith in whoever picks the singles for Meat as they tend to be some bad choices.

[robgomm]

Originally Posted by chairboys

I believe All Of Me is a very 'safe' choice. Too safe.
Remember it is still only 4th in our poll with just one in ten of us recommending it as the worldwide single.
I fear it is not going to have the impact we all hope for.
But, I will be delighted to be proven wrong.

It's 4th in our poll because we're influenced by what we think the best song is, not necessarily what the song is with the most widespread appeal. I think All Of Me is the song that will have the most widespread appeal so I think it's the best choice for the single. It's radio friendly, catchy, has that classic Meat sound, and tells people what the album is about.

[chairboys]

Originally Posted by renegadeangel

That sounds about right. I still think though that there might possibly be some steinman songs on the album. Not sure how they would fit in with the sound but it would be a huge selling feature.
ALL OF ME is a great first single. I agree too that OUR LOVE AND OUR SOULS would be the next best single. But I have very little faith in whoever picks the singles for Meat as they tend to be some bad choices.

As long as there are follow up singles with the same promotion then fine.
But, I am worried it will all fizzle out.
I like All Of Me but is NOT the best song on the album.
Anything For Love hardly fits into your radio-friendly category but it succeeded because it is a fantastic song.
I don't want a steady forward defensive block. Let's slog it over the long off boundary with the big hitters off HIAH.

[robgomm]

Originally Posted by chairboys

As long as there are follow up singles with the same promotion then fine.
But, I am worried it will all fizzle out.
I like All Of Me but is NOT the best song on the album.
Anything For Love hardly fits into your radio-friendly category but it succeeded because it is a fantastic song.
I don't want a steady forward defensive block. Let's slog it over the long off boundary with the big hitters off HIAH.

Yes I agree with you, it is NOT the best song on the album, but it is the song that will have the widest appeal. Just like Anything For Love is in my opinion not the best song on Bat 2, but had the widest appeal which is why it was the single.

[chairboys]

OK. Time will tell. Hope I am horribly wrong.

[CarylB]

Originally Posted by chairboys

I like All Of Me but is NOT the best song on the album.
Anything For Love hardly fits into your radio-friendly category but it succeeded because it is a fantastic song.

But would it have the same appeal to radio now? The business has moved on a lot in the last 18 years. It was an amazing song and a triumph, and once it was being played it caught on and spread across the airwaves, but back then where were still radio presenters who'd buck the system of playlists proscribed by the suits ..

I love All Of Me, and I could see it having a broad appeal, the music sticking in people's minds, and the "chorus" lyrics catching on, and not just to Meat Loaf fans. And a poll consisting of 65 votes from Meat Loaf fans on one fan site (64 if you take away the one for "a mystery song") isn't exactly a robust set of statistics imo as a basis of deciding a single release to the widest market, particularly give the framing of it .. eg (again) after two of the titles. I'd hope Sony have a more sound approach to testing the potential market.

I don't hope anybody is horribly wrong .. just that Sony are informed and right in all they do

Caryl

[robgomm]

Originally Posted by CarylB

But would it have the same appeal to radio now? The business has moved on a lot in the last 18 years. It was an amazing song and a triumph, and once it was being played it caught on and spread across the airwaves, but back then where were still radio presenters who'd buck the system of playlists proscribed by the suits ..

I love All Of Me, and I could see it having a broad appeal, the music sticking in people's minds, and the "chorus" lyrics catching on, and not just to Meat Loaf fans. And a poll consisting of 65 votes from Meat Loaf fans on one fan site (64 if you take away the one for "a mystery song") isn't exactly a robust set of statistics imo as a basis of deciding a single release to the widest market, particularly give the framing of it .. eg (again) after two of the titles. I'd hope Sony have a more sound approach to testing the potential market.

I don't hope anybody is horribly wrong .. just that Sony are informed and right in all they do

Caryl

[Wario]

Originally Posted by CarylB

But would it have the same appeal to radio now? The business has moved on a lot in the last 18 years. It was an amazing song and a triumph, and once it was being played it caught on and spread across the airwaves, but back then where were still radio presenters who'd buck the system of playlists proscribed by the suits ..

I love All Of Me, and I could see it having a broad appeal, the music sticking in people's minds, and the "chorus" lyrics catching on, and not just to Meat Loaf fans. And a poll consisting of 65 votes from Meat Loaf fans on one fan site (64 if you take away the one for "a mystery song") isn't exactly a robust set of statistics imo as a basis of deciding a single release to the widest market, particularly give the framing of it .. eg (again) after two of the titles. I'd hope Sony have a more sound approach to testing the potential market.

I don't hope anybody is horribly wrong .. just that Sony are informed and right in all they do

Caryl

While all of me is a good song, Im baffled why Sony chose that over The Giving Tree or Live or Die, which I bet even you can say would have been better choices. I hope they do know what they are doing.

[CarylB]

Originally Posted by Wario

Im baffled why Sony chose that over The Giving Tree or Live or Die, which I bet even you can say would have been better choices.

No, I can't, and thought I explained quite clearly why I thought All Of me was a good choice.

Caryl

[robgomm]

Originally Posted by Wario

While all of me is a good song, Im baffled why Sony chose that over The Giving Tree or Live or Die, which I bet even you can say would have been better choices. I hope they do know what they are doing.

Wario did you even read the rest of the thread? We've said that All Of Me is the song which will have the widest appeal, even though GT or LOD may be better songs in many fans eyes. Because it's not just hardcore fans it has to appeal to. Caryl explained it very well.

[Wario]

Originally Posted by CarylB

No, I can't, and thought I explained quite clearly why I thought All Of me was a good choice.

Caryl

I know you did, but I think you're secretly like "wtf? all of me? are you serious?! Come on!"

or at least i like to think you are

[glamourgirl]

Originally Posted by chairboys

I believe All Of Me is a very 'safe' choice. Too safe.
Remember it is still only 4th in our poll with just one in ten of us recommending it as the worldwide single.
I fear it is not going to have the impact we all hope for.
But, I will be delighted to be proven wrong.

I'm thinking Our Love and Our Souls would make a good worldwide single. It's so relevant to the issues people are currently facing (losing their jobs and homes being foreclosed). The song is beautiful and has a really powerful message, and I think it would get a lot of airplay.

[robgomm]

Originally Posted by Wario

I know you did, but I think you're secretly like "wtf? all of me? are you serious?! Come on!"

or at leats i liek to think you are

Lol you windup you

[CarylB]

Originally Posted by Wario

I know you did, but I think you're secretly like "wtf? all of me? are you serious?! Come on!"

or at least i like to think you are

Id like to think that really you can spell .. but life is full of disappointments for all of us. Sorry, you can't beat your view into me no matter how hard you try.

I love All Of Me, I think it is catchy both in terms of the music and the chorus, I could see it having universal appeal .. And I leave Meat and his record label to make choices and decisions which are not mine to make. I simply support him, rather than run around calling "Woe! Woe!" and forecasting failure. But that's another issue, and another choice and decision which IS mine to make.

Caryl