Meat Loaf to appear on German TV in December - Page 3

chairboys · 15 Nov 2011, 17:03

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Originally Posted by CarylB

And a poll consisting of 65 votes from Meat Loaf fans on one fan site (64 if you take away the one for "a mystery song") isn't exactly a robust set of statistics

A very select group of voters though!!

chairboys · 15 Nov 2011, 17:46

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Originally Posted by CarylB

I simply support him, rather than run around calling "Woe! Woe!" and forecasting failure.

Caryl

Of course I hope All Of Me is successful. That goes without saying.
However, my gut instinct is that it is the wrong choice.
Maybe the poll sample is too small to be representative, but I am picking up on a trend that suggests other tracks should have been chosen.
If Sony follow up All Of Me with at least two of the three songs which are above it in our tiny survey then I will be happy.
I will gladly eat humble pie next year if I have to confess to you that "You're Right, I Was Wrong".
My support for Meat will never fade.

CarylB · 15 Nov 2011, 18:26

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Originally Posted by chairboys

A very select group of voters though!!

Indeed .. and that's my point really. Select and not necessarily predictive of the mass market. I have no idea which would be better, and unless they release them both we won't ever know

But I like to think that those making the decision have done some market research and have based theirs on that. I'm not judging them by other labels over the past few years. I'm happy they're committed to releasing physical discs, which has pleased Meat too, and assume they want it to sell just as much as we do .. it's how they make their money

Caryl

Sarge · 15 Nov 2011, 18:32

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Originally Posted by chairboys

I like All Of Me but is NOT the best song on the album.

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Originally Posted by Wario

While all of me is a good song, Im baffled why Sony chose that over The Giving Tree or Live or Die, which I bet even you can say would have been better choices. I hope they do know what they are doing.

It's rarely the best song that gets picked as a single. Take any famous singer/band and compare the singles to the other songs on their albums. In many cases you will find songs that are way more interesting than the singles/hits. As others have pointed out, they often opt for a song they think that will appeal to the general public the most. All Of Me is not the worst choice, considering that Cry Over Me was released as a single while plans of boosting a better song were ditched. At least they seem to have a clear strategy this time. I'd rather see a proper single, even if it's not my favorite song, than something like the HCTB "singles" mess again.

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Originally Posted by glamourgirl

I'm thinking Our Love and Our Souls would make a good worldwide single. It's so relevant to the issues people are currently facing (losing their jobs and homes being foreclosed). The song is beautiful and has a really powerful message, and I think it would get a lot of airplay.

So why do you hardly find songs that are "relevant to the issues people are currently facing" on the charts or hear them on the radio these days?

CarylB · 15 Nov 2011, 18:51

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Originally Posted by Sarge

So why do you hardly find songs that are "relevant to the issues people are currently facing" on the charts or hear them on the radio these days?

That thought occurred to me also .. I suspect that those which have greatest relevance to people dealing with unemployment and homelessness may not have the wherewithall to buy singles, which may seem a forgoable luxury when your pockets are empty.

Feel good or anger seems to drive the playlists these days it seems to me ..

Caryl

TheDoode · 15 Nov 2011, 20:03

I really like All of Me; I think it's a great track with a relevant theme and a contemporary sound (love the piano outro).

That said, my 21 year old girlfriend, who usually listens to more contemporary artists like Damien Rice, Newton Faulkner, Kanye West, Bloc Party, etc., prefers Another Day and constantly says it's one of the best tracks on the album. I can hear her humming it in the shower right now actually!

Julie in the rv mirror · 15 Nov 2011, 20:05

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Originally Posted by CarylB

Indeed .. and that's my point really. Select and not necessarily predictive of the mass market. I have no idea which would be better, and unless they release them both we won't ever know

But I like to think that those making the decision have done some market research and have based theirs on that. I'm not judging them by other labels over the past few years. I'm happy they're committed to releasing physical discs, which has pleased Meat too, and assume they want it to sell just as much as we do .. it's how they make their money

Caryl

Caryl is right; speaking from strictly a statistical standpoint, a sample such as was obtained here would probably be thrown out. I think you can compare it to a setlist which is chosen by diehard fans- it wouldn't necessarily appeal to the majority of the audience.

Record companies are in the business of selling records (CD's, downloads, whatever)- period. They employ people whose job it is to pick the tracks that are going to sell the most, not necessarily those that are considered "best".

Evil One · 15 Nov 2011, 20:18

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Originally Posted by Julie in the rv mirror

Record companies are in the business of selling records (CD's, downloads, whatever)- period. They employ people whose job it is to pick the tracks that are going to sell the most, not necessarily those that are considered "best".

Which still boggles my mind when I think of such 'best sellers' as Man Of Steel and Cry Over Me.

Julie in the rv mirror · 15 Nov 2011, 20:23

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Which still boggles my mind when I think of such 'best sellers' as Man Of Steel and Cry Over Me.

Well, I never said it was an exact science!

chairboys · 15 Nov 2011, 20:45

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Originally Posted by CarylB

But I like to think that those making the decision have done some market research

Caryl

I would certainly like to know how they conduct their market research. Perhaps a show of hands in the boardroom!!

Ps. just to reiterate, I do like the song, BUT, I would prefer something else!!

AndrewG · 18 Nov 2011, 11:28

I thought that old show was canned after that guy breaking his neck failing to jump over that car. Bizarre how some shows run forever in only certain countries. A bit like Big Brother over here whereas that died a silly death very quickly over the rest of Europe.

pierre · 18 Nov 2011, 12:16

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

I thought that old show was canned after that guy breaking his neck failing to jump over that car. Bizarre how some shows run forever in only certain countries. A bit like Big Brother over here whereas that died a silly death very quickly over the rest of Europe.

No, it wasn´t. After the accident (he is in a wheelchair), the host (in germany we say showmaster) Thomas wanted to quit. He made a couple of more shows and this will be the last (with him) and as said before many people will watch it. Then will be a break. They are looking for a new presenter, (but nobody wants to do it.)

Ollie241189 · 18 Nov 2011, 13:54

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Originally Posted by pierre

Yes, they are.

He already performed Anything, Not A Dry Eye (Meat made a big mistake in the mimed performance) and DIST (where Meat kissed the showmaster Thomas) at that show.

It´s a Saturday evening family show.

I dont think it was a mimed performance. The problem with Tv shows is they get the artist to sing the song live and then dub over the vocals with the album/single version. So I dont think it was Meat's fault I think it was the TV show's producer's fault.

madagascar · 18 Nov 2011, 16:35

As far as I know by now only two singers performed live on Wetten Dass..?

One is a german singer called Sarah Connor the other name just escaped me.
The last show in Nurnberg has been watched by over 8 million people. Wetten Dass..? is the biggest TV show and celebrities come there without being paid. They all love Thomas Gottschalk.

pierre · 18 Nov 2011, 17:49

http://www.cms-medienmagazin.de/2011...iedrichshafen/

http://www.net-tribune.de/nt/node/78...ss-stehen-fest

It says:

...Rockfan Thomas Gottschalk..and his personal taste... and...

Meat is going to perform a medley of his biggest hits.

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Evil One · 18 Nov 2011, 19:15

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Originally Posted by pierre

Meat is going to perform a medley of his biggest hits.

Because it all went so well last time.

RSG · 18 Nov 2011, 20:29

why not a track from the most recent release. Cant hurt

unbekannt · 18 Nov 2011, 20:45

Meat will be performing a medley of AFL, Took The Words and All Of Me.

Source: http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitr...en?bildIndex=1
(pic 4 of 8 )

Sarge · 18 Nov 2011, 20:54

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Originally Posted by Evil One

Because it all went so well last time.

I hate to say it but... My thoughts exactly...

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Originally Posted by unbekannt

Meat will be performing a medley of AFL, Took The Words and All Of Me.

Is that nostalgia stuff really necessary? Why not play a whole HIAH song?

chairboys · 18 Nov 2011, 20:57

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Originally Posted by Sarge

Why not play a whole HIAH song?

indeed

stretch37 · 18 Nov 2011, 21:20

RIGHT ON MEAT FOR TACKLING ANOTHER LIVE TV PERFORMANCE!

YOU GO MAN!

robgomm · 18 Nov 2011, 23:50

I think gathering from other comments this will be prerecorded, so i don't see how it can go wrong.

Sebastian. · 19 Nov 2011, 15:30

I'm looking forward to this.

If it is live I don't think it will go wrong like last time. The medley doesn't seem as demanding, it's inside, he'll probably be allowed a soundcheck and I don't think the audience will be a load of football fans already cheesed off that it's not a home act performing.

Though I would love to hear a HIAH song instead of a medley but I think this will still be top notch.

TheDoode · 19 Nov 2011, 18:18

Yeah, I love that Meat's doing this, but I think I'd rather just hear All of Me, since it's promotion for a new album.

Wario · 19 Nov 2011, 18:45

why not SITS sans lil jon with randy doing the John rich verse (since pattis doing a show that day) and all of me? why the medley?

18 Nov 2011, 17:49	#65
pierre Junior Loafer Join Date: 15.05.2006 Location: Deutschland Posts: 34	Wetten, dass...Meat Loaf MEDLEY http://www.cms-medienmagazin.de/2011...iedrichshafen/ http://www.net-tribune.de/nt/node/78...ss-stehen-fest It says: ...Rockfan Thomas Gottschalk..and his personal taste... and... Meat is going to perform a medley of his biggest hits. - Last edited by pierre; 18 Nov 2011 at 18:32.

19 Nov 2011, 18:45	#75
Wario Monstro helps me spell things... Join Date: 05.01.2007 Location: Masculine, Pennsylvania Posts: 9,105	why not SITS sans lil jon with randy doing the John rich verse (since pattis doing a show that day) and all of me? why the medley? Last edited by Wario; 19 Nov 2011 at 19:20.

15 Nov 2011, 20:03	#56
TheDoode Guest Join Date: 16.02.2010 Posts: 1,023	I really like All of Me; I think it's a great track with a relevant theme and a contemporary sound (love the piano outro). That said, my 21 year old girlfriend, who usually listens to more contemporary artists like Damien Rice, Newton Faulkner, Kanye West, Bloc Party, etc., prefers Another Day and constantly says it's one of the best tracks on the album. I can hear her humming it in the shower right now actually!

18 Nov 2011, 11:28	#61
AndrewG I hope your salmon sucks! Join Date: 18.01.2004 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 7,077	I thought that old show was canned after that guy breaking his neck failing to jump over that car. Bizarre how some shows run forever in only certain countries. A bit like Big Brother over here whereas that died a silly death very quickly over the rest of Europe.

18 Nov 2011, 16:35	#64
madagascar Super Loafer Join Date: 13.12.2005 Location: Germany Posts: 376	As far as I know by now only two singers performed live on Wetten Dass..? One is a german singer called Sarah Connor the other name just escaped me. The last show in Nurnberg has been watched by over 8 million people. Wetten Dass..? is the biggest TV show and celebrities come there without being paid. They all love Thomas Gottschalk.

18 Nov 2011, 20:29	#67
RSG Mega Loafer Join Date: 27.07.2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,296	why not a track from the most recent release. Cant hurt

18 Nov 2011, 20:45	#68
unbekannt Super Loafer Join Date: 10.07.2010 Location: Wonderland Posts: 371	Meat will be performing a medley of AFL, Took The Words and All Of Me. Source: http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitr...en?bildIndex=1 (pic 4 of 8 )

18 Nov 2011, 21:20	#71
stretch37 Mega Loafer Join Date: 28.06.2008 Location: Posts: 2,119	RIGHT ON MEAT FOR TACKLING ANOTHER LIVE TV PERFORMANCE! YOU GO MAN!

18 Nov 2011, 23:50	#72
robgomm Mega Loafer Join Date: 22.10.2006 Location: Hemel Hempstead, UK Posts: 1,671	I think gathering from other comments this will be prerecorded, so i don't see how it can go wrong.

19 Nov 2011, 15:30	#73
Sebastian. Biggles Join Date: 15.02.2011 Location: Texas Posts: 2,027	I'm looking forward to this. If it is live I don't think it will go wrong like last time. The medley doesn't seem as demanding, it's inside, he'll probably be allowed a soundcheck and I don't think the audience will be a load of football fans already cheesed off that it's not a home act performing. Though I would love to hear a HIAH song instead of a medley but I think this will still be top notch.

19 Nov 2011, 18:18	#74
TheDoode Guest Join Date: 16.02.2010 Posts: 1,023	Yeah, I love that Meat's doing this, but I think I'd rather just hear All of Me, since it's promotion for a new album.